first of all by all means necessary do not join a damn FRAT....I have been in college for a long time and have pulled more ass because I wasn't in a fraternity... if you wanna pull this broad you need to straight up tell her look i really suck in this class...anyways we can meet up and study for this in the library....etc....i once took a chem class and was doin terrible cause i wasn sittin next to my buddies and fuckin off...then i noticed after the first test that this one hb9 had gotten a good grade on the test and started out the next class sittin next to her and then said "hey how did u do on the last test" and she told me " i got a 93"...from there i decided to ask her if i could meet up w/ her and have ur show me this shit....obviously not exact words....so turned out she had a bf, but i still was in there like swimwear...if i wasn't a good guy i could have gotten laid, so instead i studied w/ her before class every day and ended up getttin a B+ in the class and when she eventually broke up w/ her bf...i got some ass....so trust me this will work in any class...even if she did shitty on the test or is a complete moron....
if she isn't very smart and u get to study w/ her now u have an opportunity to DHV and neg her for not being the brightest crayon in the box....

good luck class pimpin

You don't have to join a frat if they have open parties. Refer to my field report from last night:
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better than joining a frat, just make friends w/ a few of them that way u get invited to the parties....i did that for a few years, and never had a question asked...in fact it ended up that i was pickin up some of their girls and then on the flip side of that some girls would swear that they wouldn't hook up w/ a frat guy and that was perfect for me cause i may hang out w/ them but i wouldn't ever join one...and i made that known to the girl...so i got the girls that were into the frat guys and i also go the girls that were around the frat guys but thought they were assholes....i killed 2 birds w/ one stone

I can understand why you may say fraternities are lame, but i decided to join one this semester and i am loving it. If you plan on doing this, make sure you join the right one, not all fraternities are full of assholes. Next is there are a lot of work, i swear i spend more time doing stuff for my fraternity then school, but there is the rewards of nice parties every weekend...

It doesn't matter whether or not you join a Fraternity in regards to pickup. That's all up to you. You can make things work with your pickups without joining a Fraternity or you can take advantage of the social benefits that being in a Fraternity gives you. You can make anything work; it's all just a matter of your personal style.

Don't listen to anyone when they say "Don't fucking do this or that blah blah blah" when they are obviously emotional about it and haven't tried it themselves firsthand. Biased anecdotal accounts will not serve you. That's just a tidbit of wisdom that everyone needs.

I'm 18 and I get into the bars I want (not ANY bar, though). Have you even tried? Or is New Orleans just really awesome? If you join a Fraternity with bouncers in it, you'll be able to get into those bars where they work at.
It's never too late to expand your social circle if you've got the right attitude.

Check out Mark Redman's blog at http://www.thetruthaboutcollegegame.com

I'm out of college 2 years now, and I got laid a lot more as an undergrad. I work a lot more now so I can only go gaming weekends. As an undergrad the game is always on.

Your in class with hot girls.... you don't even need a decent game. Just talk with her about the subject and suggest studying. You sit next to a girl a few times, get a little rapport/comfort going and she's ready to cram with you for a test at your place. Celebrate the end of the study session, or after the test, etc with drinks. Its a tried and true easy method that takes about 3 weeks with little or no effort.

As for the bars issue, ask around the dorm and find out where people got there fake ID's.... people have them. Someone will know a guy who can make you one. 80 bucks (max) later your the guy who can get into the bar and buy everyone on your floor beer (high value).

Joining a frat can be good, it can also be bad. I found that my frat was more of a source of drunken debauchery than good gaming territory, I got laid a lot... but only through fool's mate. Stick to your own game, only join a frat if you like the guys, not for the social proof. Plenty of girls hate frat guys so its kind of a wash.

Good luck!

"Also if it helps at all I'm not just looking to get laid, I'm looking for a relationship so I don't really not want to be myself then all of a sudden after a couple dates start falling into who I really am."


If you want to be able to get that "One special girl" you have to be able to get ALL of them. No questions asked.

If you're looking for a relationship, at least have sex well in advance to dating. Dont date first. That's almost as bad as paying for sex because you're wasting plenty of valuable time that you could be having more fun with.. and the only reason you're waiting is because it makes the girl feel a little bit more comfortable and justified in sleeping with you. BULLSHIT.

You should be treating whatever girl you pursue as "I'm trying to get laid, and then maybe a relationship." If you go out hunting for a relationship, then you're risking "putting the pussy on a pedastal" and will go home unhappy.

Best of luck man. What university do you go to if you dont mind me asking?

by the way.. on the topic of fraternities.. if you're thinking about joining one because it will get you more girls... then reconsider why you want to join.

you'll meet more girls.. that's for sure.. but it wont mean anything if you just cant frat hard

great stuff!

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How do I game girls on campus where I have no social proof? My college campus is HUGE so people rarely know each other. I can sarge lone girls, but have a hard time building social proof (especially when the energy level is lower than in a club).

I mean the hottest girls are always walking around campus. The whole over the shoulder things gets really old after I trail them for a couple of blocks. How do I generate interest? (BTW, I don't think most of them are into frat boys.)

I mean if anyone has SPECIFIC college routines for use in day game with total strangers, I'd greatly appreciate it, as thats where 90% of the HBs I see are.

NuttyPlayer, the strategy I came up with for getting a number from a fast meeting is to turn it into an instant date. I haven't field-tested this much but it seems to work okay, and it's similar to what Smash said. Here's how it works;

Keep a list of fun activities in the back of your head for quick reference (e.g. the rockclimbing gym in town, the annual comedy festival happening next week... you will probably have to regularly read the local newspaper to keep up-to-date on what's happening around where you live). Then when an encounter with a girl is about to wrap up, say "I'd love to chat longer, but I have to ... (insert something more important you have to do, which I believe acts as a kind of push-pull).. but I've been meaning to check out that new rockclimbing place that opened up in town and I need a climbing buddy. You should come along"

Regards

Im not a frat boy but I don't think the smart girls really care. The blonde bimbos love frat guys. It depends on the type of girl you are after.

So i just started my freshman year. I have 0 previous experience with actually going out and sarging. Basically all i've done is read the game and some stuff online. I'm only on my third day of classes and I kinda wanted to try some of that study with the girl stuff but there isn't much material or anything to study yet. So i was wondering if there is anything I could do previous to asking the girl to study to get started with. Also any other ideas would be great. and I have similar goals to the threadstarter. I'm looking for a LTR but i'm not ruling out just getting laid. Also where else is a good place to meet girls besides class, are there certain clubs that are good to join?

First of all i just want to say its power gay that you cant go to the bar until your 21. In canada its 19 and 18 in some provinces. Anyways heres what you do. Open up with some fluff, look for IOIs. Then, get a good convo going with an opinion opener. Use your cell phone if you need to make it look like your texting a friend so its not completley out of the blue that u ask an opinion opener. The one about the friend with the jelous girlfiend is fine. Your time constraint is that u have to go to the next class. You tell her you have to go but you go to class and you would like to continue this convo. Coffe date. Game over