Nice one..


Quick Q, how early did you give her the 'I'm not looking for a relationship' speech?
Oh, and when giving cold body language, did you ever have the feeling that the attraction fire was dying or could you just feel it increasing? I've tried this tactic in the past and have come up empty handed...

After last night I felt the need to share my thoughts, I know the post is a bit long, but it is interesting and important, take your time and share your opinions!

I am not a believer of Mystery Method and similar methods that use canned material, I don’t think that lines written by someone else should be universally used to pick up women, your ideas and methods could come from a teacher but the words should be your own!
When you evolve as a pick up artist and you break the attraction code, you learn what makes women attracted to you, amazing things start to happen.
You can pull women anywhere and you learn to control her sexual emotions, you can make her turned on or off!
If you are a good enough pick up artist, do women stand a chance or is she going to sleep with you no matter what, since you can control her emotions?
I don’t think this really matters, you are not tricking her in to sleeping with you, you make her feel just the way she wants too! So by not sleeping with her you are actually not giving her what she wants, in other words, the right thing to do is to have sex!

The question about morals and sex have been raised before on this forum. And when Magnum45 asked everyone to list a value we found important, I said honesty. I was criticized, and after that I have heard many forum members saying that honesty can not be a part of pick up. That there is no way you can be honest and pick up and lay girls instantly. I beg to differ, the only way that you CAN keep your morals while sleeping around like a true PUA is by being honest and open about your intentions. You can tell little white lies but don’t give her false intensions and don’t tell her ridiculous DHV stories just to stand out! Be honest about who you are and what you want!

Yesterday I went on a date with this girl that I met a while ago, this was our second date.
She is a belly dancer and part native American which are two attributes that really attracts me, as a person she is very uptight and traditional, not the kind of girl who would put out just like that. She actually appears more like a girl who would wait until marriage.

But little does she know she is dealing with a pick up artist. On our first date we went to a bar in downtown San Francisco, we were just talking over a couple of drinks, I had to run off at 8pm because I had another date that night so nothing really happened. I tested where we were by kissing here a bit, she responded but she was very careful not to involve any tongue, I could tell that kissing on her first date with someone wasn’t her thing, but since I needed to rush off I didn’t bother about escalating it, I kind of just wanted to test her reaction, which was good since she kissed me back.

After that I didn’t really talk to her, until 10days later when I called her at 10pm on Thursday night to see if she wanted to hang out on Friday night and she did.
The way I felt for this was that I’m not interested in her for a long term relationship, if we don’t have sex tonight I’m going to be too involved and I don’t want give her the wrong intensions.
So we met at a bar near her house, I wanted to meet her at her house, but she said she didn’t want to invite me home so early (uptight bitch) so we went for drinks instead.
I decided to freeze her out, to make her work more than me. I sat on the other end of the couch, I gave her cold body language and I was fairly short in my answers and I left her wanting more. I used this tactic to make her realize that she needed to change behavior to break my “bitch shield” and it worked, she asked what do you want to do?
And we had been talking about some TV series she had on DVD earlier that night and I said that what I wanted to do was watch that!
She was thinking for a while and she agreed that it was a good idea. We picked up bottle of wine and went to her house, we sat down in her bed and saw one episode, during all this time I didn’t touch her once, and I could tell that I made her crazy, since we kissed on our last date she didn’t understand what was wrong.
So when I finally escalated and kissed her, all bets were off, the clothes were history and we were having sex within minutes.
This happened because I worked hard on building up tension, an amateur would have made out with her in the bar and gone home to masturbate!
I woke up in her bed the day after and she gave me breakfast in bed, pancakes with fresh strawberries!
I am not a bad man, I’m a good PUA, she knows she is not my girlfriend and obviously she is ok with that!
With great powers come great responsibility! Don’t lie to girls, don’t break their hearts! Always leave them better than you found them and remember to always associate yourself and the intimacy (sex) you have with her with positive feelings!
Meeting a pick up artist should always be a positive experience for a girl, we are not like other guys, we are different, we are better!

With great powers come great responsibility! Don’t lie to girls, don’t break their hearts! Always leave them better than you found them and remember to always associate yourself and the intimacy (sex) you have with her with positive feelings!
Meeting a pick up artist should always be a positive experience for a girl, we are not like other guys, we are different, we are better!

I like the sentiment of the overal post but..... this is the issue I have here.

How the hell do you plan on doing that?

You're a guy who goes around giving girls orgasms, I would be cautious that you don't get ahead of yourself here.

Many people set out with the intentions to be a good person, and they can often rationalise it to themselves very well.

But how do you know your a good influence? How do you know that you can will be in a position to choose to be the good person?

That requires crystal clear personal insight, and almost oracle like predictions of the future, two things that I think you and me and everyone else in this world lacks. Rather understandably.

I see your point but you are looking at it a little to literally, see the thing is that I have met so many guys during my years of picking up women, and so many of them will only work towards personal benefit, they will tell the girl any sort of lies and promise her anything up until the moment when they have sex with her. After this some guys are downright mean and just dump the girl or stop communicating with her, the worst ones however are the ones that keep her attached to them by using lies and false promises. Far too many guys don't give a shit if they break a girls heart.

My goal is (or rather was) to always make sure that the girl knows the rules of the game we are playing so to speak. That she knows I am dating several other girls, that she knows I am mostly in it for the sex, or sometimes a good friendly hang out that ends up in her bedroom. I can honestly say that since I started thinking like that, I have never had an ex girlfriend or ex lay have any form of spite towards me, they remained my friends but at a comfortable distance. You are not hurting anyone if you don't give them false expectations, I sort of explained this in my theory about the arm-length approach, that if you keep them on a distance even when you are dating them, you keep them from becoming too attached to you, and this way you can both enjoy each others physical company and maybe a shallow friendship, but the main point is that no one gets hurt and it is a win win situation. I give the girls the opportunity to reject me if they are not in to that sort of relationship.

I have to add though that today when I am happily married and I look back, I sometimes wonder what the hell I was doing just meeting girls for sex and no mental reward what so ever but that is a discussion for another day.

My goal is (or rather was) to always make sure that the girl knows the rules of the game we are playing so to speak. That she knows I am dating several other girls, that she knows I am mostly in it for the sex, or sometimes a good friendly hang out that ends up in her bedroom. I can honestly say that since I started thinking like that, I have never had an ex girlfriend or ex lay have any form of spite towards me, they remained my friends but at a comfortable distance. You are not hurting anyone if you don't give them false expectations, I sort of explained this in my theory about the arm-length approach, that if you keep them on a distance even when you are dating them, you keep them from becoming too attached to you, and this way you can both enjoy each others physical company and maybe a shallow friendship, but the main point is that no one gets hurt and it is a win win situation. I give the girls the opportunity to reject me if they are not in to that sort of relationship.

I have to add though that today when I am happily married and I look back, I sometimes wonder what the hell I was doing just meeting girls for sex and no mental reward what so ever but that is a discussion for another day.

I believe you are the perfect person to help me with my "sticking point".
Even though I am very clear, from the start on, that I am seeing different girls at the same time. They usually get incredibly attached to me, even after the first time we had sex.
How do you keep them on an 'armlength distance'?
Being honest about your intentions clearly is not enough. At some point (and usually very early, like date 3-4), they would start hinting that they are not seeing anyone else themselves or explicitly asking to stop fooling around.

I spent quite some time today browsing through your posts (mainly from 2009 I believe), nice job there