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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:20 am 
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All that will do is provoke the guy and may make the guy resort to physical contact. Not exactly a smart thing to do.
Not in the class room. No way. It will stop his monkey act cold and make him feel like the idiot he is. Yeah, there is less than 1% chance, but still a chance that this monkey might opt for a throw down . . . but . . .

The whole point of amoging is to flip the alpha into a beta. This is incredibly easy and also incredibly difficult depending on your confidence level. Betas do not attack alphas either physically or verbally. And you can turn a alpha into a beta both physically and verbally. Pretty simple really . . .

. . . but if you keep him in the alpha frame and he feels threatened, yeah, a throw down is very possible.


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what i suggest is keep doin the igonoring but if the ignoring doesn't work try some humor, humor always works ...for ex: put on a retarded act and say u gonna beat on me and do this with a retarded voice and a retarded walk and say some smart shit too , to throw him off ...I find if u say some big words they don't know then they get confused and think this guy aint lookin for a fight....

or if u want me and my boys can F*** him up where u stay? feel me hahah nah j/k i don't do violence anymore WEll actually technically i do but i don't....because I do MMA tournments so yea in a sense it is a form of violence no one expects me too so it's real covert

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Not in the class room. No way. It will stop his monkey act cold and make him feel like the idiot he is. Yeah, there is less than 1% chance, but still a chance that this monkey might opt for a throw down . . . but . . .
I had two physical fights in the class room. With one ending with me getting my nose broken. And I gotten into roughly 5 verbal fights in the class room as well. So I think your less than 1% is uh out. :wink:
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The whole point of amoging is to flip the alpha into a beta. This is incredibly easy and also incredibly difficult depending on your confidence level. Betas do not attack alphas either physically or verbally. And you can turn a alpha into a beta both physically and verbally. Pretty simple really . . .
I agree with everything but the part in bold. I was for the most part a beta male until I got out of high school which is when I became more alpha. But during the time I was the beta male I had alpha males pick on me. And when they pissed me off I did attack them. Both physically and verbally.
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. . . but if you keep him in the alpha frame and he feels threatened, yeah, a throw down is very possible.
True. But if you deal with the situation calmly and keep your cool you can reverse the situation in your favor. If you must talk to the alpha male then it is best to not show that he is getting to you as he will simply continue if he knows he has gotten to you.


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You were a squirrelly little one weren't you?

By definition, what you did wasn't "attack" but rather "retaliate" in that schizophrenic rage that cornered animals (betas) tend to do. Since this is your history, you're probably well aware that this vicious cycle of retaliating, then getting the shit kicked out of you isn't really the way to go. We're on the same page here.
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True. But if you deal with the situation calmly and keep your cool you can reverse the situation in your favor. If you must talk to the alpha male then it is best to not show that he is getting to you as he will simply continue if he knows he has gotten to you.
If you read my initial post, this is exactly what I recommended.


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You were a squirrelly little one weren't you?
Yup. :lol:

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By definition, what you did wasn't "attack" but rather "retaliate" in that schizophrenic rage that cornered animals (betas) tend to do. Since this is your history, you're probably well aware that this vicious cycle of retaliating, then getting the shit kicked out of you isn't really the way to go. We're on the same page here.
I actually didn't loose that many fights mostly because I was taller than the kids that pick on me so I had for the most part the physical advantage.
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True. But if you deal with the situation calmly and keep your cool you can reverse the situation in your favor. If you must talk to the alpha male then it is best to not show that he is getting to you as he will simply continue if he knows he has gotten to you.
If you read my initial post, this is exactly what I recommended.
We certainly agree on the same thing. But I disagree with your way. As I think it is better to simply defuse the situation than to try out alpha him, which seem to be the method you took. I am not saying the op shouldn't be alpha in dealing with this alpha but having an ego fight I doubt will end this. I think it will be much better to simply play along with the alpha male as if it was a friend cracking non stop jokes or something. For example when the alpha male said the following:

"oooooooo here comes a big shot, look at him he has planes on his sweater! planes!, make way for him!"

the op could responded by saying:

"Big shot coming thru people! Make way for me please."

Basically respond as if you where continuing the "joke" the alpha male "made".


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I remember one time at a club when I approached a lot of girls, and one guy started pushing me when he passed me, while I was game:ing a 2 set.

Later I approached a 10 and she was kino:ing me and laughing, and then two guys started talking shit about me and started pinching me on the waist.

Even though it made me pissed it was a great compliment to my pick up skills, I was so good that I made them jealous! :)


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I remember one time at a club when I approached a lot of girls, and one guy started pushing me when he passed me, while I was game:ing a 2 set.

Later I approached a 10 and she was kino:ing me and laughing, and then two guys started talking shit about me and started pinching me on the waist.

Even though it made me pissed it was a great compliment to my pick up skills, I was so good that I made them jealous! :)
thats great. not gonna stop him gettin hit up tho isit.
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i dont give a shit if he has no knowledge of how to fight. and as for how to take a kick or smack, thats pure determination. you see a bottle, rock, chair, corkscrew or whateva. use it. doesnt matter how dirty you have to get its survival.
however. outsmart him. the violence is a last resort - but one that if used effectively is garunteed to work. the mma fighter above - if your any good a fighter you will know that smartness overcomes strength or speed. try and smooth things over.
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1. Sarcasm Yeah sure, cause training for a fight is just silly, it obviously has no effect. Never mind what the military/bouncers/security guards/police do.........

2. The ring is different to the street.

3. It's funny your whole "go mental fight dirty attitude" Is probably best held by martial artists and self defence instructors.

4. Smartness is a necessary component, it's a huge boost, but... A Lua gar teacher told me an old saying about a year ago, and I hold it to heart.

Have better technique you will win 5 fights out of 10.
Have better skill (translated as physical ability or experience) you will win 5 fights out of 10.
Have better skill and better technique you will win 10 fights out of 10.

You need to have at least some physical ability when it comes to fighting, otherwise boxers, Muay thai fighters, UFC competitors would not have the ridiculous routines that they do.

Professional fighters have knowledge of fighting (In their particular field) and a body in top shape. Do you have any idea what the lifting, cardio, theory and diet regieme of a competitive fighter is like?

5. Determination doesn't really come into it, you get snapped in a rear naked choke hold, or jacked up with a bat to the head.... you're going down, determination doesn't come into that one. Training to take a hit will get you over the psychological aspects but physically you need conditioning. So you were half right.

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If you want to train for a fight that's your choice, but you need to get good theory and a decent workout regieme. In my opinion if he's already threatining you and he has the intention of going for you. A week or so of training is going to seem a bit pointless.

Hold your frame, let him know that he is out of line. And don't stoop to his level. Once he see's you are determined not to let him get to you, he will probably back off. If he is already intent on attacking you, things could get complicated. You need to size him up and make a guess of whether or not he is the type who would jump another guy.


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You need to have at least some physical ability when it comes to fighting, otherwise boxers, Muay thai fighters, UFC competitors would not have the ridiculous routines that they do.
I have done boxing for as long as i can remember, muay thai is a specialty of mine, and i have trained for the cage for three years now. ridiculous routines? take an animal. mike tyson for instance. he had a ludicrous amount of skill - but why was he the best? because he wasnt scared of nobody and determination that all of us fighters admire. chill for a second. im not suggesting that he hunts the guy down and bites off his ear. of course he should try and win the crowd. im saying that if the other guy comes swingin, he should do what is necassary to make sure he wont bother him again. taking up a martial art wont have any real affect on your fighting skills for a few months. not enough time at hand for some mug wanting a shot at him

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You need to have at least some physical ability when it comes to fighting, otherwise boxers, Muay thai fighters, UFC competitors would not have the ridiculous routines that they do.
I have done boxing for as long as i can remember, muay thai is a specialty of mine, and i have trained for the cage for three years now. ridiculous routines? take an animal. mike tyson for instance. he had a ludicrous amount of skill - but why was he the best? because he wasnt scared of nobody and determination that all of us fighters admire. chill for a second. im not suggesting that he hunts the guy down and bites off his ear. of course he should try and win the crowd. im saying that if the other guy comes swingin, he should do what is necassary to make sure he wont bother him again. taking up a martial art wont have any real affect on your fighting skills for a few months. not enough time at hand for some mug wanting a shot at him
Ridiculous as in meaning really heavy, I can gaurantee that the top dogs in UFC are not doing 5 hours a week like the guys in the dojo round the corner.

I mean proffesional, as in they live of off their fights, people like you and me it's more of a hobby for which we are enthusiastic.

I for one think that tyson bite the ear manuvure shows for me that he is a true fighter, naturally he attacked out of emotion and that shows a certain lack of dicipline.

Agreed for the most part, however it depends on the student some poeple take forever. Others show them a strike, show them the target, they'll perform it perfectly. You can train an average guy to a decent standard in a week.

The problem is, is he going to take up a martial art, purely becuase he was threatened by some douche.


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