see here is my issue, I keep hearing how easy black guys have it there and how black men don't even need game to score there or whatever

I DON'T hear the same about indian guys or asian guys which makes me have my doubts and made me pass up going to that place. Like I have not read any good experiences.

There comes this scenario my head makes up where a black guy and white guy get laid before me because they are black or white and I get passed up because people associate me with some arab or gypsy. I just don't know what I can do to overcome this issue. Traveling is too risky in the sense that if I don't score my whole trip is screwed.

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so you need society to tell you what's possible and who gets what? Get your shit together. I have gamed girls that were into black dudes and preferred black dudes. Guess what, I am light skinned and got passed that and got the lay. If I can bypass a girls preference, so can you.

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No, I need some assurance or idea that women aren't only into Black men and White men. I mean come on, have you personally EVER known a woman who was into Brown guys? Be honest.

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Yes, I am brown... Mexican and filipino in predominantly both white and conservative area, Utah. In short you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. In case you haven't realized you are just making bull shit excuses.

I have women tell me they preferred swarthy, dark, tan, etc. Over white men.

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If you only ever go on holiday just to get laid, you're gonna have a bad time. There's more to life than game, why would you waste the chance to see a beautiful country like Sweden just because of some imagined xenophobia? America is more racist towards Browns than Swedish people, I guarantee you that. The purpose of a holiday is sight-seeing and to have a good time. If girls see you're there to have fun (and not to seek approval), you will get laid for sure. If you want an "100% guaranteed sex" holiday, go to Amsterdam or Bangkok.

The biggest problem with your game is you want to get laid for the wrong reasons. I love women that's the only reason why I'm into pickup. You just want to get laid to comfort your ego, to get validation, so you can send pictures of yourself naked with some blonde blue-eyed Swedish girl to all the white guys who bullied you at school for being pathetic and fishing for sympathy by playing the victim. Be a man, grow a pair and perhaps both women and men will start taking you seriously.

I fully expect you to ignore everything I've just said and reply with a "But Swedes only want black and white dicks! I saw it in a Swedish porn! No brown dicks anywhere I tell you!".

I believe this guy has some deep rooted insecurities that myself and others can't help him with. Go take some alone time and figure yourself out. Then you can come back to this thread and see how over analytic you have been. Everything makes better sense when your head is clear. And I think you need to hire some wingman or find a brown dude that is successful with women to hit you upside the head for me.

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No, what bothers me is the idea that on vacation my White friends will get laid and so will some Black guys but I won't for skin color alone. You know, you are right. I do have some massive ego problems but there is nothing I can do to comfort those at all. Thing is I have this complex in my mind that I am somehow seen as a joke by women because of my ethnicity alone and nothing else. That no matter how I or any other brown guy acts like in Europe, it won't get laid. Like it bothers me that many of those countries have tons of Persians, Arabs, and North Africans yet it is almost unheard of to see women hook up with and sleep with those races.

As for in the US, I have not had an issue with my race at all. I have dated women who said they won't date Black men even though Black men are supposed to be at the top of the ladder. I have been with women who found me exotic and loved me for my ethnic appearance here.

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Lets rephrase the problem here, my problem is not with the US, I love it here. My problem is with other 1st world countries where they have a lot of Indians and Arabs and where women will discriminate against them by associating them with a bad stereotype right off the bat. I feel that no other race of men would have to go through any of that by women and I victimize myself as a result of it. Quite honestly, ya, the only reason I would probably go to Sweden is what Hunter mentioned.

It is my mind being at odds. At one end it wants to travel but on the other it won't do it because of the fear of racism in the pick up category against men of my color. The one question that keeps circling my head is why are there so many Brown guys there (Arabs, Pakistanis, etc.) yet it is unheard of to see one with a White woman.

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*Snorts loudly*

You've had "10" supposed lays.

Yeah ok bro

aren't you that guy that is a virgin and says sex doesn't matter

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Why on earth did you ignore my post when I said I have had girls tell me they prefer brown guys through a variety of descriptive words?

You asked if anyone had an experience I offered you an absolutely and now you still want to create this bull shit mental block. Tons of women prefer brown guys over both black and white guys, your insecurities are ripe and obvious. You need to stop being prejudice, stop judging people before even experiencing them, it reflects poorly on you. Give people a chance to unimpress you before you make such assumptions.

I'm not saying brown guys don't struggle in the south, but to make that bull shit assumption about every woman is just fucking stupid. In Florida they do exceptional is my understanding.... look at skills who is brown with a heavy accent. I'm in a predominately white area and do very well with women of multiple back grounds.

You need to just start working on your beliefs and stop bitching about things "you've heard". You can't change anything about rumors you can change something about your beliefs. You should have heard all the rumors about how many girls I slept with at my last job, people talk, that doesn't make it 100% holy truth.

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First, I want to THANK you for sharing your experience and congratulate you for your success. I did not ignore your post. My issue is not at all with the US, I know for a fact that brown men can do very well here because women are intrigued by how exotic we are. Even Middle Eastern men are highly loved by a lot of American women. American women have treated me really well and I am certainly open to the idea of marrying one if I do get married.

I know for a fact I can do well in the US, my issue is with abroad, especially Western Europe.

Tell me how you have MILLIONS of Indian guys in say the UK but an Indian guy - White girl couple is unheard of there (okay maybe we can chalk that down to Indian men not being crazy for British girls). YET, tell me how they have over millions of Arabs in France yet a Brown guy - White woman couple is extremely rare there to the point it is almost unheard of. Like whoa, something is UP.

One part of me wants to go to Europe and do well there but I get pissed that some guy who is another minority group like say a Black guy will get laid JUST BECAUSE he is Black while I will get passed up no matter how good my game is or how good looking I am. This type of stuff does not happen in the US.

In the USA, a good looking brown guy with game will do better than a chubby Black guy who does not have as much game. In say Germany or Sweden for example, I have basically read all over the web that a man is getting laid just because he is Black.

That is my issue. On one hand I want to travel because it is something I have wanted to do for a while but on the other I hate the idea of going to a new place, seeing new sights, approaching women, and getting rejected because apparently they all think I am some Middle Eastern immigrant who is there illegally or some gypsy. I wish there was a travel site out there that would give me better information.

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Finally someone says it. Trust me, you have no idea how far down this rabbit hole goes. Let's just say Paramount21 is quite infamous outside of this forum, and it's not for getting laid like a rockstar.

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lolwut? oh pls go with the accusations

I have NEVER gone back on my word about having 10 lays, I have seeked help with inner game before on a forum but that is what I am doing now. Either contribute or get lost.

These guys are going to accuse me of being the other indian guys on other forums that whine about race and not being able to get laid when I have clearly said I have had success in the US.

In B4 someone accuses me of being this guy

http://www.topix.com/forum/business/onl ... LUIH28LM9F

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Dude, it's all mental man. Ever think maybe there isn't a lot of hook up stories simply because the majority of us minorities simply don't have the money to travel? I mean seriously, how many Indians have you met that went to Europe to back pack it? I don't know ONE! And I know shit loads of fucking people.

Oh k so lets look at pure logic on this shit.... Most guys don't have game I'd say literally 1 in 100 men get laid consistently. Now how many of those very same guys have the money to travel? Now how many of those very same guys are going to be flaunting their hook ups across a forum? NONE! They are busy having a fucking life, traveling, running businesses, fucking beautiful women, why would they come online to flaunt their success to a bunch of guys on the net? They are confident not egotistical.

Most minorities aren't wealthy and when they have money they tend to spread it amongst their family not blow 20k on a traveling trip.

Be rational dude.

How many Indian guys do you know that chase women? Honestly I don't know many Indian guys doing pick up. I know more white, mexican, asian, and black males doing this, I have met all sorts of folks running game but I'd honestly say most Indian guys aren't driven to go out and get laid. I mean when I go to the club I never see Indian guys talking to sexy girls if they are there (which are rarely there anyways). I'm not saying there aren't guys obviously there are (you) but it isn't an abundance when you look at the massive Indian population on this planet.

Just saying look at the overall pictures there just aren't many indian guys with game or gaming girls.... So how do you hold a point?

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Vic

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