To be fair I've tried this (trying to get her over to my place earlier in the process). A friend of mine would bed girls one after another, strictly met online, but it would still take him a couple dates with each.

This is what happened last time I tried to get a girl to *meet at my place* for a second date: -dont-ever-text-me-again--vt133971.html?highlight=

One poster replied that that's a high risk/high reward approach, but I you haven't built enough rapport from that 1st date, you'll fall flat.

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Guys. Here's my question. Sometimes I feel a little bad trying to watch a movie or eat dinner in the apartment or listen to music or whatever then trying to have sex with a girl by arousing her physically. Its like you're trying to trick her into doing something irresponsibly. Its like a butch bitch sucking on your dick then jumping on it.

I know I want to have sex with a girl as soon as i see her. I just look at her face, ass and titties. Why is it that you have to persuade a girl to do what she is going to enjoy doing? Something don't seem right about this.

in my opinion, if the girl comes to your place, she knows what's gonna happen. no matter how much she denies it, she knows it. the movie, dinner, or music, or whatever, are random excuses. they serve the purpose of "it wasn't my fault. it was just a movie". the chicks knows this so well that sometimes they tell you they won't sleep with you. and, of course, you reinforce their plausible deniability by saying "I am not that easy girl" or random canned shit like that.
then you proceed to arouse them. it's not their fault. you aroused them. you played with them. caught them off guard. it's not their fault, is it? to them, it needs to feel like you tricked them. to you, it's simply the ways of the world, not much unlike the law of relativity or the principles of thermodynamics.

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Girls trick guys all the time. I think it is time you start tricking girls!

I am having trouble grasping the general concept of girls not going on a second date with a guy they seem to be interested in the 1st date. What are things someone can do to assure they get a second date? Would you generally advise getting a Kiss close after the 1st date?

Last girl i dated was an HB8 and i got two dates before she stopped responding to my calls. I took her to a hookah bar and a movie then for the second date i took her to dinner then back to my crib for a movie. I got my arms around her and made out with her but she wouldn't allow me to escalate further. After that date she stopped respond to me. Think i made the move too soon (buyer's remorse)?

I totally agree with the movie date. It is just classic. Inexpensive and girls really open up on the situation. If your going to hit or not is 50/50 though in my experience.

LMAO at that 16 year old piping 20 girls. I'm sure that happened ...

Honestly, I feel like asking a girl when I invite her over do you want to come over

"Do you want to come over to make out?" or

"Do you want to comeover and have sex?"

it seems similar to the apocalypse opener. you should try it and see what happens. I am sure an interesting field report would come out

I actually enjoyed the escalation process, it gave me a high, so I never thought of going that direct. But I plan on trying the apocalypse opener when/if I am single again.

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This is the apocalypse opener

"Hi
Hows it going?
What are you doing later?
Do you want to come home with me? "

You walk up to a random girl and you are supposed to say that with conviction. ..

Honestly, I think that is too foolhardy. Its not that it won't work, but I also suspect that you might get slapped, you might get thrown out of the club, you might get in a fight....i wonder if you could get arrested? I just don't like the randomness in the apocalyspe opener.

However, I would not be against asking a girl do you want to go home with me after introducing yourself and having a good conversation. I would introduce myself with the purpose of building some trust because if the girl doesn't trust you she may want to fuck but she may be too scared too. Also, I would want to hold a conversation to make the risk not so risky.

This is golden
I still remember when my GF came home for our first date (I had planned an Italian food night) and before walking through the door asked me if I was a serial killer

(btw - the right answer is "of course, did I not tell you?")

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^ my bad he ask to come over for a movie, ok good that is what i advise as well, my bad wall, that is what i do...

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^ do you want to come over? You are not leading, you are begging, you got a take responsibility of the interaction...

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I'm asking a question...

I always use the line;

I'm gonna watch a movie (or that new movie....) at home, come join me.

Or is she wants to find out stuff about me through text I say:

'It doesn't work like that, if you want to know me, come over to my place this weekend'.

I personally like the 2nd one more because it's a line that gives you the mystery and the hard to get play. It works for me at least.

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I understand but you are giving her a choice, is not effective, it is weak...

This is how i do it, well how i would do it, most times i build so much investment and buying temperature, they hint a get together... But if i were to ask out i would do it like this:

Meet me at xyz, at 8pm were something cute and casual, i will text you or call you an hour before to confirm, if i do not hear from you i will do something else...

she will say ok, cool, what are we doing?

it is a surprise we are gonna have a blast... See you at 8 pm, got a go now, i will text you later...


i she said for some reason i can't, i say ok no problem, then meet me on (whatever day) at 9 pm or whatever, get the point...

This is beyond weak, chode, afc:

so what are you doing tomorrow?

So how about a movie?

none of that shit you lead on your terms, she needs you, you do not need her, that is the attitude, take it or leave it... strong frame.

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^ cause you have to protect her social conditioning a bit, she knows what is up, but you just kind of have to give her feel like is your responsibility, and you are there for something other than sex, even though she knows is a sexual encounter.

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I know all these things, but the method makes me feel guilty. 1.) Because alot of these girls constantly convey they want to love someone to have sex with them and its like you're leading them on only to let them down. 2.) They convey that they feel bad after they just hook up with someone. They regret it when I feel guys often feel proud of themselves.

I realize there is guilt and fear to simply be sexual just because of how women are raised and socialized, but it seems like the responsible way to have sex with a woman is just to ask her, because there's no leading her on and she can think about whether she will regret it afterward.

I think the real issue is the bullshit that women are fed about sex that its some deeply changing experience and really sex is just entertainment.1.) Romantic bullshit 2.) Fear of being seen as a slut or think of herself as a slut. 3.) Fear of diseases. 4.) fear of pregnancy...