Yes, please do that. I want to know how and why millions of years of evolution have brought about a less satisfying sexual experience for a woman when a man is involved.

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Hey Jen, hate to do this to you right off the bat, but notice, I never said the one requirement is what the man is DOING. I said, the one requirement is knowing how to handle her body AND mind.

In other words, you don't just stick yourself in and give her the most mind blowing sex ever. That's never gonna happen.

You have to know how to handle her body, obviously, but more important is knowing how to "fuck" her mind as well. You do that, and know how to handle her body on top of it, and I guarantee you she will have her mind "blown".

Or, do I need to introduce you to the women I've done this with?

Bless. Millions of years of evolution, and all you could come up with was a pink rabbit shaped buzzy thing.

Lets face it. Most women experience their first, best and last orgasms without men present. Some women never orgasm with men present. Most men are hopeless. Some aren't bad. But reading sex tips from other men, uh, possibly isn't the way to do it! How about - and you're not gonna like this - but how about you ask women?

Perhaps you missed the lecture on the nature of evolution, but it doesn't happen in the blink of an eye and it sure as hell isn't perfect. The world is going to produce some dumb fucking shit, and the male-domination of society with it's dumbed down version of entertainment (Playboy) is in fact one of those things. However, your resentment towards the patriarchal social construct should not be aimed at individual men. Your making vast, sweeping, un-backed over-generalizations of the male sex, which is fine, but it holds no real worth in the conversation. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps, you've been with the wrong men? Sex is supposed to be an intimate connection between people of either or both sexes, and I see nothing wrong with receiving advice from other men, ya know, being that we were there as well.

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Ummmmm, ok, I'm about to break a barrier here, lol. Hold the shock off guys, lol.

Me and Meth are thinking just alike here . . .
Meth, I'm thinking Jen is a les looking for how to hook up with other women. I could be wrong though.

Jen, you do actually have a very good point here. A lot of women, I wouldn't say most, but a lot, do honestly not have orgasms with men. That's true. But, I also truly believe it's because the men they are with don't know what they are doing, because honestly, MOST men really don't. The man that knows how to handle a woman is sadly but truly the EXCEPTION.

Now, as far as asking another woman . . . we do . . . we have Zip

Ok, sorry, I'll be more explicit! There are factors involved that nothing the man can do will change. I.e, temperature, stress, what she's done that day, loads and loads of things. The best sex women ever have is with men that they've been with for a long time. You can handle my mind all you want, but it's gonna take more than anything you can do to make something happen if it's not going to.

I'm sure the women you've been with have all said you were wonderful my dear. I've told a lot of men that too!


Methuselah - Are you painting me as a misandrist? Surely not! I even like some men! I've been with plenty of men thank you, in all shapes and sizes. But the best sex I've had hasn't always beared any relation to the man doing the business! I've met amazing 'players', pick up artists or whatever, and maybe it works for some women, but as far as I'm concerned, it all came across a little cheesy.

And the rampant rabbit, as far as I'm concerned, IS perfect.

I'm not a lesbian - although I can pull women faster than most men I know.


Sorry guys, but some of the things you're saying seem a little misguided - I just figured you might want some advice from someone who's been there and done that?

So how about cutting the criticism of our thoughts and techniques, because so far it's not helping anything but beginning a debate, and start with that advice you keep talking about? I'm all ears here, sweetheart.

Some advice to help us fix what we, apparently, need to fix would be much appreciated! You've got to admit, Jen, Meth has laid out a damn good groundworks for intimate encounters.

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I would never make such accusations, I'm just trying to figure out where exactly you're coming from.

I am very aware that what is going on in a womans head during sex is 100-fold what is going through a man's. I also know that those are things I cannot control, for the most part. But finally, I am also aware that there are many things that men can do to ensure that the sex they have is the best they can have. And that...is what the post is (or was) about.
What does this mean exactly? It's so ambiguous I don't even know where to begin.

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Ok, Jen, we have NO problem hearing your side of things, or getting advice from you about how to have sex with a woman, if you want to give that out. The more knowledge, the better, obviously.

Of course I've had women tell me I'm the best, but, it's not in what they say that makes it true or false. I'm not misguided like that. Or should I get explicit with those details? I don't think I need to.

ooh get explicit. I love it. Are you referring to clenching? Yeah, we can fake that too. I think the best way of seeing if a woman is faking is whether she cries. Don't get me started on female spunking.

Ok, my sex tips....by the way, Meths, most of what you said made sense. Pick up any copy of Cosmopolitan and it'll be screaming out half those ideas. Shit, we've been screaming those ideas for years!


- Set the scene if you've seen her a few times before. Don't light candles straight away, or too often, save it for something special. The main skill you need here is reading what the woman wants. Start folling about, and listen to her body - is she pushing, or pulling? Does she want you to take control, or is she going to be in control? Some women hate being dominated, some love it. The best men figure this out in seconds - all you need to do is pay close attention to what her body is saying.

- Most women will know if you're inexperienced. It's hard to hide! Don't worry. The best way to get better is to get a woman naked, then ask for help. Next time, you'll be that bit better.

- Be wary of listening to the noises she makes as an indication of enjoyment. I can't count the times I have accidently faked too much at a point, only to be rewarded with more crap sex. Yes, I know women shouldn't feel like they have to fake it, but there's a lot of psychological pressure during sex for women, it'll take a long time to break. You can tell by her body movements a lot better - they're less forced and more impulsive. Take note of the hips in particular - women'll thrust them forwards more when enjoying something!

- Keep in mind that some women you will not be able to have good sex with. In order for it to really work, you need to find someone with a similar idea of what good sex constitutes, and work at it!

- Good sex rarely (if ever) comes on the first night. Good sex - for both parties - will often not happen until at least month 3.

- Hours of oral sex is bloody awful. Most of the time. Use your bloody fingers!

- Don't be sad when she fakes it. I've yet to meet a woman who has never faked it with a long term partner.

- Read women's magazines.

- Never be definitive about sex. It's a loose, complex concept that defies explanation and rules. The minute you state 'THIS makes good sex', then it's all going to fall apart!

This post could go on for hours. I'll stop here - hope some of it's useful! :p



Meths: I can smell your testosterone from here. Calm down, you still have a big penis. When I said players - I've slept with men before that have impressive statistics - can pull anyone, have done everything and her mother. And I've never really been that impressed!

All great tips, my girlfriend keyed me in on watching the hips. Not only will they thrust upward, but when the back is being dramatically arched (another obvious good sign) the hips will be lowered and pointed downwards.

Jen, though I like the ego of my penis to be stroked (pun intended) as much as the next guy. That's not what I'm here for, believe it or not. Your beginning to over-generalize again. Not everyone here has their heart set on being a player, I'm happily involved with one women, and have been for quite some time.

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Oh, my God. Should we bring up egos now? Or later?
Like, duh, what do you think we've been saying? Well, at least I've been saying. Yes, this is a good point and well said. Yes, which is one of those "explicit details" I asked if you wanted me to explain. Of course, that's just one. Then, there's how hard, how often, and how rapid she does. Among other things obviously. Now, care to judge me AGAIN before you know me? While I will admit that you won't always have good sex right away, I definitely can't agree with this statement overall. Fingering, when done right, can be great for the woman. Now, I don't know any guy, personally, that would do oral for hours. But I do know, if he oral is done right (not for hours) it's far from bloody awful. In fact, the complete opposite. When done right, the women will orgasm with this before you've ever gone in her. Even with your finger.

...but you've reacted with the most anger at my posts, whereas the other posters have been thoroughly positive in the face of anatagonistic debate. Much more interesting!

Careful though - sometimes hips can move 'cos you're just uncomfortable!

You remind me of a dear old friend. x

Jen you posted some good advice...

However... if a woman fakes it, then it's her own stupidity thats keep her from having better sex.

The most important part of sex, is the most important part of any relationship... communication. You must be able to communicate your desires, emotions, sensations... through your body language, as well as verbally if needed.

If a woman decides that she is going to fake it, insted of communicating then she is a fool. Everyone is a little different sexually, and you must communicate who you are to your partner in order to have even good sex, let alone great sex.

When I woman would say "I faked it" that's not a mans fault at all... that reminds me of is you went up for an at bat in baseball... and had three strikes come right down the plate without you ever swinging. You get called out, and say to the pitcher "You only struck me out because I didn't swing"... is that the pitches fault that you decided not to even try?