make friends in frats to take advantage of their parties but dont join. thats what i do

haha, well I'm actually a pledge for Sigma Pi at the moment, so I'll give you what I know.

I came to the University without the slightest intention of joining a fraternity. if anyone had asked, i probably would have laughed at them. That said, those first couple weeks there are so many opportunities for free food/parties that i was taking advantage of, and fraternities were obviously on the list.

Anywho, to keep this short, I went around, and started liking what I saw at one of the fraternities, Sigma Pi. I kept finding myself hanging out with the kids there, and eventually I ended up joining.

So based off that, I'd say don't go to college with the idea that you WILL go greek. Just keep your mind open to it. As for hazing, find a fraternity that has a national Anti-Hazing policy, and then, hang out with some of the brothers when their drunk off their asses, and ask about it. I refuse to do any of that shit, and my pledge brothers and I made a pact to walk out if they tried any shit.

Things to keep in mind are the money, and the time. However, the real reason for me joining a fraternity is the Networking I'm getting out of it. I have met people at 5 multi-billion dollar cooperations that are in my field of study.




The important thing is to keep an open mind. I joined mostly for the networking. You're gonna make friends no matter what, it's college. And while it is social proof, there are a lot of people who hate frat guys.

Feel free to pm me if you want some more specific info.

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i hope your sigma pi is better than the one we have in florida...
but as for an anti-hazing policy, they all have one its required. the frat i pledged had one and they even had a representative from nationals come and tell us about it. what a piece of bullshit i got the shit hazed outta me but i wont go into details.

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Always keep in mind your priorities and why you came to college. It seems that your major and field of study is tough and time-consuming. If school if your number one goal (as it should be), then I would highly recommend not joining a fraternity. While all the raging parties, hot sorority girls, and social networking are attractive reasons for joining, they come along with several serious negatives. The most prominent one in your case is time. Pledging a top house is usually difficult, extremely time-consuming, and stressful. It is very common and often expected for students to do poorly academically while pledging a top house. And even beyond that, the fraternity lifestyle is much more complicated and distracting than that of a student who is unaffiliated. Do the pros outweigh the cons? I forgot what your major was, but it seems that fraternity networking benefits business careers most, which is another thing to keep in mind if you're not pursuing a career in business. On another note, I noticed that you seem to be planning everything out, such as strategies to attain higher social status, how you're going to use this or that to attract more girls..etc. I just want to say don't stress or over think or try to stick to a plan; just be open-minded and adapt to new situations. It's surprising how things can turn out far from what you had expected and to watch your life unfold in front of you. Moreover, your PUA attitude and goals are influencing your decisions and distorting the way you look at things. For example, you see joining a fraternity as a means to gain social proof and get with hot girls, and that making lots of guy friends in the dorms will help you climb the social ladder and be more attractive. By seeing things as tools and steeping stones in your PUA arsenal, you are missing out on things that matter most, such as brotherhood and true friendship. Instead of being PUA-oriented, enrich and fullfill your college experience by just having fun and improving all aspects of your life, socially, intellectually, and physically... there will be no shortage of girls or opportunities.

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