You have slept with 50%+ girls you have approached in your life?....oh really? Anyone with experience actually cold approaching knows that your either full of shit, you have approached maybe 2 women via cold approach, or that you don't do cold approach.

Again, read my original post again. I never said its about building confidence (but it will funny enough) but rather about getting you to be more bold in field. Most guys simply play to way to safe. By making it a goal to get insta-rejected for a solid month, they are forced to step up their boldness and start playing to win.

After that month they will have a shit ton of new reference experiences to go on and can therefore calibrate their boldness on approaches after that.

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How can you be super bold during the day?

I think some of you are missing what Warped is trying to impress upon.

He can correct me if I am wrong but I think he is saying to encounter a woman that you find attractive and interested in. Then approach her, open her and don't be afraid to be sexually forward with her and keep escalating untill you are either fucking her or she gives you a direct rejection such as, "I am not interested." "no thank you." "Leave me alone" or untill she walks away from you (or if you've really bungled it, she RUNS away)

The point to this is the threshold at which many women actually reject you sexually is often A LOT higher than what we think it is. Many guys seem to believe than many women have a very low tolerance for any form of sexual engagement and will flee at the slightest bit of sexuality.

The truth is often the opposite and that women can have a much higher tolerance for sexual engagement than we give them credit for. They are no where near as delicate and fragile as we often think.

The real truth is, as long as you aren't being rude, obnoxious, demeaning, offensive or threatening, women often find most male approaches boring and lame and the fact of the matter is they enjoy and respond to the stimulation.


I give Warped little exercise a big thumbs up and encourage everyone to try it. I am interested in hearing people's results because I think a lot of women are going to be bailing a lot deeper into the game than what you think and I think a number of guys are going to be getting some unexpected SNLs because of it.

Give it an honest try and report back.

Absolutely not, and you can slam me all you like. But For a long time I only approached girls that had shown very obvious signs of being interested in me.

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Stand Up, getting accepted does build confidence, but it makes you more self-conscious when you do get rejected, so if you get rejected a shit ton, you will stop caring and get accepted more. Its been proven, it works, Warped really does know what he's saying, just try it and watch it work.[/quote]

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@ warped, agreed, and great advice, i don't get enough rejections at all! pulling way more than my AFC chums and yes do alot more approaches than them, but... not enough rejections, which means not being caveman enough!

@stand up - imagine how much more often you would have gotten laid if you were willing to get rejected 75% of the time?

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My god, whats to not comprehend, he is just saying be bold, get rejected time after time, so that eventually rejection does not phase you. It does not effect your game performance for the rest of the night. He is saying get used to rejection and even embrace it.

The less you care about getting rejected, the more you will open, and the more you open, the more you will close.

Or am i just completely wrong warped?

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What I thought he was saying is that whilst this is true, the point is to learn that you can be way, way more bold than you think and get away with it. By doing this you learn how far you can push the envelope and dont end up n-closing when you could have full closed because of your own pussy-footing.

He's essentially saying that most guys would rather (consciously or not) use a tactic that with odds that stack up like 90% non-rejection (n-close, or just a pleasant conversation) 5% full close 5% total rejection simply because they have loss-aversion. EVERYBODY has loss-eversion, it is a scientifically documented phenomenon in humans (and also in capuchins, incidentally).

The idea of going in so bold that you are AIMING for a 50% blowout rate is that with balls you never knew you had you will also sharply up your lay rate. Looking at it on paper, you KNOW you would take a 50% rejection rate, 30% lay rate, 20% total rejection. Think about it. You open 4 sets and boom.

This is all just my interpretation of what Warped is saying...

First off, excellent post, Warped! I think everyone should be reminded of this from time to time.

However, I think most of the guys reading this post don't yet get what Warped is saying.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he is not saying that you should approach more often (this goes with his idea, but isn't the crux of it). What he's saying is that you "be bold", meaning you walk straight up to the girl and, for an example, tell the girl "You look sexy. We're going to have sex tonight. My place. 12 o'clock." You're just coming out right away and telling her you're going to have sex, rather than dodging the real subject and just "running game" on them. He's saying don't bother with all these subtle little tricks and junk that people are teaching you. Just go for the goal immediately.

A lot of systems, like Mystery Method especially, tell you that their systems will never have you rejected, because nothing you say can be truly objected to. Mystery's kiss thing is a perfect example. "Do you want to kiss me?" If she says no, you tell her "I didn't say you could, you just looked like you had it on your mind." Dodging it like this makes you seem like a pussy sometimes, and though you won't be "rejected", you won't succeed much because you aren't being bold enough.

Warped is saying, you see a girl, you walk up to her, tell her to kiss you, if she says no, move on to the next girl. Right? Or am I way off?

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i didnt read the actual post but freshprince is bullshitting here
"there is no way to not to get rejected"
bullshit. There is and you don't seem like a pussy while doing it and also get the benefit
you,"i am totally thinking about kissing you (ioi) get off me (release)"
can you guess what i did without getting rejected?
I introduced the kiss nicely, the thought of me and her kissing.
Next bullshit
"if you like a girl, walk up to her and say you want to kiss, if she refuses move on"
where is your game man?
Bullshit bullshit bullshit

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Where did I say this?

What I did say was that trying to protect yourself from being hurt by only playing indirect games will yield far less results than if you "risk it" by being forward and upfront. The more open you are to being rejected, the more chances you will give yourself to fail. The more chances you have to fail, the more chances you have to succeed.

Doing direct game will give you more/better results.
I'm not saying you should do this. I certainly don't. I was trying to create a simplified sample of what Warped was saying in his original post, so that if he agreed that was what he was saying, or disagreed, then I could understand his post better.

Read my post in context, not just picking out sound-bytes like some media trick with the presidential elections or something.

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You are EXACTLY right.

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This thread got a little unorganized.
I agree with the original sentiment, I'll be doing a lot of night game this coming week and this will be my focus.

Any recommendations on how to be bold very early in a set? I understand the concept, but it'd be nice to see some examples.