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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:59 pm 
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First Set(1 girl in Bus, I went and sat beside her) :

GM: Opened with a who lies more opener in Bus.
HB6.5: blab la blah. (She was quite responsive. Made her smile and
laugh but didn’t get any IOI, like she didn't ask for my name or
anything even though I asked for hers)
GM:(Did a cold read). “You don’t trust people easily, but when you
really start to trust someone(sp) and you start to feel comfortable
with that person(sp) you keep that person close to your heart”
HB6.5: Wow.. you read faces? (Go figure!)
GM: My intuitions are generally correct.
GM:Fluff
HB: More Fluff
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GM: (My stop had arrived so). My stop has arrived, lets exchange
numbers we will meet sometime at(her fav place in the city)
HB6.5: I don’t trust you
GM: (clueless, but persistent) have you ever realised that you and
your best friend were stranger just before you two met?
HB6.5: (didn't know what to say).. (pause.). But I dont give my number
to strangers
Felt like I shot myself in the foot with the cold read.
Eject
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Second Set(3 girls@Bustop)

Me:) You love to talk , don’t you(target was talking nonstop
HB8: Ya I do(kinda, who the hell are you attitude)
Fluff talk follows. Hardly any attraction. Got cockblocked by UG4 and
UG4.5 and so the two UGs brought out the Chode in me.
Eject.
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Third Set@ a Book Store(1 girl)

She was reading something and there was an empty chair beside her.
GM:You look bored, tell me what book you are reading, I will not read
that.
HB7: Not bored really, its just that m studying this book because its
in my course.
GM: So what course are you doing?
HB7: blah blah
GM: So what kind of books do you read normally read?
HB7:blah..
GM:(suggested a few good books, and she was really interested)
GM: So what do you do in your free time? What are you passionate
about?
HB7:why do you wanna know?
GM: Just interested.
HB7: But why? (and I thought I was getting somewhere with this girl)
GM: (trying to keep cool without any success) Like I love playing
computer game and I love adventure sports, so what are you passionate
about?(This got the Bitch talking)
HB7:Dancing..blah..blah..
GM: So how does that make you feel?
HB7:blah..bla blahh..
GM:you have a cute smile
HB7:are you flirting(smiling)?
GM:is it working?
HB:Not at all
GM: (still persisting, by this time people around us started looking,
but I couldn’t care less) What else are you passionate about?
HB7:(Shit Test Alert!) okay.. I am here to study. (actual meaning= Get
the fuck away from my face asshole!)
GM: I am not. (Showed the book I was reading. It was a photography
album about Lance Armstrong she got interested)
Fluff talk
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GM: I gotta go now,I am not going to ask for you number but lets
exchange emails(Chode)
HB7:No(ouch!!. Never been shot down so badly before, that hurt)
GM: (I get up) So I will ask for one final time, Are you giving me
your email?( trying my best to not sound like a hurt AFC!! ..lol)
HB7: No.
GM: Ok.Bye then,now I will walk out of this place and you will kick
yourself for not giving your contact info. (I had no fucking idea what
I was doing!!)
HB7: bye.. what was your name again?
GM: I should not repeat but its GM(super chode)
HB:where do you work again?
GM: Oh Fuhgget it. (And I walk away)
I guess she was asking for info because she wanted to search for me in
Fb or somewhere.. dunno.
This is about 80% of the convo. Don’t remember the entire thing as I
was busy dodging bullets ..lol.
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Went to a nearby Mall and decided to do some more even though I had
still not recovered from the pain of the previous shootout. Anyway..
moving on

Fourth Set(Saw a sweet HB7 standing alone)

GM: (checking some Tshirts) which one of these two do you thing would
look good on me.
HB: Hmm.. lemme see.. I thing this one.
GM: Why is that?(duh? What kind of fucking question is that??.)
HB7: It looks more fresh.
GM: I see .
Her AFC BF probably saw us from somewhere and got insecure. So he
comes and hurries her away, straight out of the Mall. What a chode!!
(Look who's talking!!)
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In my opinion, My main sticking point is Inner Game. I am not feeling
it when I am talking.I am not able to project the flirty vibe. I am
coming off as too platonic. It feels like I am doing something, I am
not being me. When I am speaking, I am not feeling congruent with my
voice tonality or BL.

Any insight on how to overcome this?

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First Set(1 girl in Bus, I went and sat beside her) :

GM: Opened with a who lies more opener in Bus.
HB6.5: blab la blah. (She was quite responsive. Made her smile and laugh but didn’t get any IOI, like she didn't ask for my name or anything even though I asked for hers)
GM:(Did a cold read). “You don’t trust people easily, but when you really start to trust someone(sp) and you start to feel comfortable with that person(sp) you keep that person close to your heart”
HB6.5: Wow.. you read faces?
GM: My intuitions are generally correct.
GM:Fluff
HB: More Fluff
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GM: (My stop had arrived so). My stop has arrived, lets exchange numbers we will meet sometime at(her fav place in the city)
HB6.5: I don’t trust you
Quite a nice one I came up with the other day that seemed to work was, before number closing;
"Hey, it's really weird, but doesn't it seem like we just sorta connected?"

As the whole point of PUA-ery is being able to 'connect', you're just pointing out to her that you did connect. Perhaps follow up with;

"That's really strange, because I don't really normally connect with people on this level"

Loosely translated as:
a) She, HB, doesn't 'connect' that often. (Reminding her)
b) Telling her that she's special to you.


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Go back and take a look at:
what-is-the-best-way-to-ask-for-her-pho ... highlight=

In all three examples, you were not able to achieve either of the 2 objectives. There are thousands of different ways to achieve these objectives but for now, just use the examples that I offered in that post or write up a few scripts for yourself. Sure, there are many ways to run game but it seems you are stuck with gaining contact info. For this, all you need are the two things mentioned in the above post and you will get most numbers out there.

To get over this hump, focus on these two objectives ONLY. Be efficient. If what you're doing or saying is not helping you achieve these objectives, do not do it. Forget about sexual escalation or a2, b3, or WD-40 steps of the 'game'. Forget about tests and hoops and raising her attraction to you. Connect now and reconnect later. Simple, simple, simple.

Interestingly, I was also on a bus a few days ago:

K: That's a super patriotic outfit you've got there. Are you a consultant? (She had tag around her neck and jacket with the US flag embroidered on the arm of her jacket)
hb: No, I work for _____. (Showing me the company's logo embroidered on the lapel) It's a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, . .
K: (Thinking: Oh my God, I opened a talker)
hb: Blah, blah, blah, blah, non-profit, one year, blah, blah, inner city kids, blah, blah
K: Oh . . . Education major?
hb: No. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah . . .
K: Hmm . . I minored in that and also did some non-profit work abroad after college.
hb: Really? blah, blah, blah . .
K: yeah, yeah. . .blah, blah . . So it's ____.com?
hb: No, it's _____.org. (Hands me business card)

I was only trying to kill time but I suppose these things are habitual. And I only achieved 1 of the 2 objectives because I wasn't thinking 'dates'. Do you see the hook? I studied what she studied and worked a similar gig (Not really but I made it seem that way).

She thinks she is sane and trust worthy. She studied x and worked Y. I studied X and worked Y. I must be sane and trust worthy. Something like that . . .


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Your problem is not inner game.

The reason you are not congruent is because what you're talking about, how you're talking about it, and what you want are all completely different things.

ESPECIALLY during daygame, opinion openers are just retarded. Unless I'm literally in a bar and actually having a debate with a friend, and I bring the closest girl to us in on the debate to help settle it, I would NEVER use one. They just seem really weird - why are you asking this?

An opinion opener can be used as transition material - i.e. after you've initiated conversation and been talking a little, it can help keep the momentum going with a somewhat interesting topic. But as an opener it feels forced and strange.

For your daygame, try opening with a COMPLIMENT first, and then transitioning into a normal conversation. Make it clear from the outset that you are interested in her romantically, but want to find out more about her.

Then, drop the cold reads (what I would call "fake comfort") and actually just get to know her. If she's not that forthcoming, tell a story of your own that's interesting but relatively light and fun - see if she has anything to ask or respond to that with.

When you find some commonalities between you two, that's the time to emphasise how awesome that is, and set up a day 2 based off that. It can be as deep and meaningful as sharing a passion for the renaissance Flemish polyphony of Johannes de Ockeghem and Josquin des Prez, and inviting her to a concert, or as simple as a love of fine sweets and taking her to the best hot chocolate place in the city.

When you n-close AFTER that, she already has a connection with you and a real reason to be seeing you again, and will be unlikely to flake.

In conclusion:

1) Open STRONG with a nice compliment and express your intentions and desires
2) Build a connection with her by finding out who she is as a person
3) Figure out commonalities and set up a mutually agreed day 2 based on one of them
4) Exchange contact details

DON'T BE A PUSSY
HAVE FUN!

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