Okay, so a few friends hit the clubs, decided to put in some direct / more direct game. I normally do a lot better when I could be heard, so bare with me while I epic fail over 9000 approaches here. Fish out of water.

Approach 1.
Up on a podium. HB6 looks alone dancing there, gives me one look. I tap on shoulders, reach out a hand. She gives me hers and I instantly go for a full out dance. She loved it, asked me where I was from and whether I'd consider buying her a drink.

Perfect. Time to move to comfort. But tbh her HB7 friend looked more preferable. I made the mistake of (accidentally) showing some interest in the friend by eyeing her out. Original girl probably saw, wasn't too happy, and jumped ship on me.

HB7 is now kind of keen, and I used some standard convos on her. Going good, but now HB6 tries her best to cock block. Fail.

Approach 2.
Trolling around for action, some girl (HB6?) smacks me in the balls by accident. Convo ensued. Resistance "you're too young for me" was met with clever disarming tactics. Good response. Tried disarming the AMOG and winning the group over but the music was too loud and he didn't bother trying to hear me. Fail.

Approach 3.
Trolling around, HB8 pokes me in the eye, I attempt to PUA. Mouthing the lyrics of the song, acting like I just don't care. Good response. Cockblock friend comes and moves her. Bitch.

Several more approaches resulted in ultra-defensive responses. Wtf? Maybe I was a little too agressive with the direct approach. I'd just grab their hands and almost force them to dance, but the dilemma is otherwise they don't even notice you.

I'll include some earlier approaches too from our last PUA session in clubs/pubs:
Russian pub. Two hotties (HB8s) getting drunk at the bar. Walk in with wingman, socialise with bartender. Socialise with other bartender. Basicly some DHVs here setting our statuses up.

Now we casually ask for opinion on vodka. Conversation ensued. A few negs. The drunk girls loved it. One of the girls tells us her bf is close by, I said "looks like you're looking for another one", she gulps gigglingly. He comes over, rages, storms off, she doesn't follow him.

The approach was now taking over 10 minutes. My target's bf is now back, and harassing me. "What she do for you man... she kiss you? on the lips?". I set up time constraint for my wingman to number close his target. "Yeah look, we need to be off. Why don't you give him your number and have this convo some other time, I need to leave". He number closes easy.

Lessons learnt / TL;DR:
- Don't show the obsticle disinterest early in the game. Probably build comfort on her first before you pull a switch-a-roo.
- Neutralising the AMOG works like shit in clubs with loud music.
- Direct game works better than indirect in clubs, where the loudness prohibits conversation. Sadly girls are ultra-defensive and cockblocks each other, so hitrates are lower.
- Time constraints. Time constraints. Time constraints.

Rayzhur,

Good job getting out there and practing. There is a lot to be learned from your interactions. I think you have some good points up there, some of which I'll expand on and some others that I'll point out.

First you said don't show disinterest in the obstacle too early. The idea you are going for here is you are gaming every single girl in that group. You want them all to feel some attraction for you. You are going to kino them all and talk to them all. It just so happens you are going to give more attention to your target. We need all of them to like you so that you aren't cock blocked and given compliance later when you want to isolate. They will all like you but it just so happens that your target is going to "win" you so to speak.

Neutralizing the AMOG...I could go on for a long time about this but I'm going to tell you something that could make your life a lot simpler if you use it. "Ignore anything that doesn't help you get the girl." This includes AMOGs, cockblocks, other puas, bad wings, ANYTHING! Don't worry about disarming him just focus on the girl like he doesn't matter and treat him like he doesn't exist, because he doesn't matter.

I agree that I like using direct game in clubs. However, you are going to have to learn to deal with the noise. I know many of you new guys complain about how loud it is but believe me the more time you spend in there its not as bad as you think it is at first, you get use to it. I've spend enough years in all kinds of clubs to know it's still possible. When in doubt open the group and move the group to a quieter area later.

Interruptions from girls in the set and people outside the set. Remember after you open you need to lock in. This is essential because to others looking over it appears you are part of the set and belong amoungest the group. It's obvious when you are standing outside the group talking to them you aren't with them. You locking in early after your opener is going to help you a lot!

You mentioned a few times of trolling around. This is not the best idea. As if its not obvious enough you are hitting on women now we are like sharks circling the smell of blood in the water walking around a club. Its a great way to kill a venue to you. You need to open and talk to everyone in the club. This is a great way to DHV yourself and get better socially. Just don't spend as much time on sets you don't like. When you troll around girls aren't thinking "Oh he's just doing laps for exercise." they know what you are up to.

As far as approach #1 goes, great job! Just pick a target and stick with it. Switching targets can be complicated and only advisable if you find out your target has a boyfriend or something like that.

Walking into a set with a wingman. This can also send off alarm bells with women. It worked in this case but typically it's best for one of you to open. Then the other guy to show up about 5 minutes later or so, after you are locked in to set.

I'm not trying to tear your field report apart, but just want to give you some extra stuff to think about for while you are in set. I have spent a lot of time doing night game in loud clubs and bars that are packed with people. I have a good idea what works. With that in mind you did a lot of things right out there, so keep it up!

Jon

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Cheers for the feedback, it's really appreciated. I'm surprised how much fun I have in clubs now when I have a "purpose" and "strategy"... I mean I remember hating clubs with a passion not too long ago.

Just to explain the trolling a bit more, basically the place would be crowded like the front row of a football stadium, and there are so many dudes (passive ones who are up to f-all of course) just trying to get some.

Now when I say troll I make it look like I'm just trying to get through the crowd to meet with friends on the other end. You'd be surprised, but it works pretty well, because it doesn't seem apparent you are trying to get close to her for the sole purpose of hitting on her.

The AMOG though, generally if he doesn't like you it can quickly escalate into a bit of an alpha contest... Isn't that generally bad? What do you guys do if the AMOG tries to be a dick?

I seriously ignore the fuck out of him like he doesn't even exist. Here is the thing ignore him no matter what, even if it is almost socially awkward. The reason is simple the more the amog gets upside by you ignoring him, the harder he tries to annoy you, and then all of a sudden when he's trying that hard to come at you. He's lowering his own value by giving too much of a shit that you are there, and now he's making a big scene over nothing, while you are calm cool, and ignoring him. Works very well.

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