I've started a Journal a month ago, I wrap my week in one post a week and here's the 4th one.
May 6, 2012
An other week, an other rumble.
Hey guys! This week was a big one!
I got back into daygame on Monday after meeting with Riddler. That guy is way more high energy than I am in daygame! He was complimenting girls about their style or looks, giving high-5s as an opener for a 2-set –the girls complied- with an enthusiastic energy. The girls seemed flattered, but there wasn’t a real interaction going. Most of the time, he’d wish the girl a nice day before we’d keep walking. That reinforced my belief that I really have to make every interaction count as if it was the first and only one, as if I were falling in love with the girl right from the moment I see her. To focus on that inner feeling of well-being, loving life just because you’re alive and enjoying all the beauties that it has to offer.
As for how it went for me, I prefer to stop the girl, look at her in the eyes and tell her she’s cute/adorable/wtv, introduce myself, ask her what she’s up to/heading to and start a convo from there. I felt nervous again when opening cuz I hadn’t done any daygame in nearly 3-4 weeks! What Riddler was telling me was to be more affirmative and enthusiastic in the interaction. That I had to improve my self-expression. In daygame I find that how you open is really what sets the table for the interaction. If your hesitant or nervous, the girl is gone in the next second.
So for the next time I open a girl during the day, I’ll be affirmative, enthusiastic and I’ll really make it genuine.
Oh and we did the newbie mission! we went to Eaton Center and opened all the girls that give us an eye contact - not that many! The girls would look at us either with a smile, or with a confused look on their face one we said hi! I found it hard to simply sustain an eye contact with all the girls, simply because I was looking at them to get them to look at me, but by the time that they do, it felt awkward to still be fixing them! any tricks to provoke an eye contact at the right time?
Thursday night was the first nightgame session of the week. I went out with football players that I’m training to La Porte Rouge on the plateau. I walk in, go to the back of the bar and look for them. They’re not there so I txt them and as I look up, baaaam right in front of me is a girl I had invited on Monday to go out Friday via fb and who had not responded yet. That was funny! I had forgotten about that and was surprised to see her appear in front of me, so she excused herself for not answering my msg because “it always takes her forever to answer”. Wtv, it didn’t after me at all, said hi to her friend, which she introduced to me and then went back to my group. I could see them interacting with 2 other guys, she looked over once or twice as I did. I could have gone up to her, but I figure if she was interested, she would have responded to my invitation, so I let her with whoever she was with.
Football players=HB surrounding! There were about 8-10 guys there, some had a gf, others were shy and were drinking together, so there were about 8 girls with us that the guys knew, some who were sleeping with one of the guys or hoping to. I had a mental block there. I found it harder to kino or be direct on the girls that are introduced to me by common friends. I was behaving as a “friend interaction”, and didn’t see any clear IOI from the girl, so I was hesitant to kino heavily. Here again, isolating the girl would have been the solution, but I had a hard time to create a fun interaction with them.
Something that came up to my mind is “how can I transition naturally, without it seeming as if I had recited this and being out of context, to dhv and telling my story after being introduced????”
Around 2, one girl walked by, I grabed her arms while she was halfway facing me and asked her if she as single. She said yes, then I told her
R:are you single?
HBlatina : yes!
R: I think you’re really hot!
HBlatina:thx!
R: -I pull her into me and say to her ear : I’m Rooster, what’s your name?
HBlatina : I’m ****, nice to meet you.
Here, I the girl was clearly attracted and turned on. She was enjoying that I was moving fast. At this point, I had not felt any fear, I had just said what went through my mind and acted the way I felt. Then, this brilliant question come up to my mind to f*ck up the interaction : “what should I say next”, which led to the following thought “shit I really should say something, cuz otherwise the interaction will die”…guess what happened? The only thing that came up was:
R: so what are you are here for? Any special occasion? –now this is one of my “back up questions” which said in an enthusiastic way can lead somewhere. In this case, what I really communicated even if the words didn’t come out of my mouth was :” do you have anything interesting to say to keep the conversation going?”… so the girl stepped one foot back, lost her attraction and had a hesitant look for the 1st time and said :
HBlatina : “oh I’m here with my friends! I’m going to see them, I’ll come back later!” we all know what that means.
Looking back on this interaction, I could isolate the girl at the bar for a drink or in a more quiet place where I could kino heavily. Or I could keep her against me and qualify her! Cold-read (you seem adventurous/fun/wtv) and ask her to tell me a story relating to that (what was the most adventurous thing you’ve ever done, craziest thing you’ve done in Montreal, favorite place you like to hang out/go to when you feel like having a good time). Then, all I’d have to do is relate to that and build common ground, telling her a story of my own, or rewarding her (hug, kiss on the forehead, grab her hand and start caressing,…)
All of this seems so easy on slow-motion, in the comfort of my bed!! It took me about 10 minutes to think of all this, analyzing the girl’s reaction and investment, whereas I only had a fraction of a second to react!
But then, Friday night arrived!!!
I met some friends at Philemon before heading to Confessional. Ran into a girl I had tried to bounce to her place a couple months ago and didn’t work out. She was all smiles and stopped a second to say hi and “so we keep running into each other a lot!” I went to her group just when I was about to change location but she was gone, oh well, I’ll see her around!
In confessional, an other girl appeared in front of me that I had spent the evening with at Santos. That night, she really was into me, but I was into her friend, so I had left her at the end of the night saying that we would see each other around cuz I hand out a lot in the old port…never thought I’d see her twice in the same week!-I had run into her and her friend on Monday while doing some daygame on ste-cath! That night at Santos I had learned my lesson to choose a target BEFORE opening the set! Now I go for the target as soon as I open the set, unless she has a maaassive bitch shield.
So at Confessional, Jezzamon and I were in the line up when 3 girls go up to the doorman and one of them tries to seduce the doorman to let them in without any luck. So they are standing in line and I tease her about not having any seducing skills, to which all of her group start laughing! We exchange a few sentences, after which the doorman calls them over and lets them in…grrrr. I reopen them later that night, go for the hottest one, we have fun and she’s responsive, her friends leave us some room to flirt, but I can’t manage to isolate –gotta work on that skill!!! I tried to kino and pull her into me, facing me, but she wouldn’t, so I just kept my arm around her lower back and we were standing next to each other, a little bit facing each other.
At that point, I didn’t know where/how to lead the convo and a few minutes later her friend pulled her towards her. Anyone who has an idea how I could have done this differently, mention it!! A guy did come over just when I opened the set, but he ejected himself after a couple of minutes so I now had the pressure to entertain the entire group…I knew she was in town for 2 days, from Miami, to visit her sister, where she was staying...
They were now sitting and facing me, bad positioning…I tried to engage the entire group and esp. her friends, but they weren’t enthusiastic, so I excused myself to go back to my friend. I went up to her again just before leaving for Le Rouge, wished her a good time while she’s in town. I didn’t try to see her again as I was out of town for the weekend.
Among other sets I opened at that bar, I used “happy friday night!”, “are you checking stocks? You must be rich!” when the girl is playing with her cell, “are you shy?” opener which has worked perfectly so far, esp. cuz the girl laughs every time. My wing opened a set with “do you know Rooster?”, but the girls, a 6+set, weren’t responding very well to this one. No idea why, but I find it harder to open a big set and get one of the girl’s attention, esp. on the dance floor. Any ideas?
The night ended at Le Rouge, we got there around 2 and the place wasn’t packed. I was really warmed up with all the previous interactions and felt confident as Jezzamon and I had a good night there the week before. We mostly spent the time on the dance floor, opening sets who were walking by. I opened a couple of girls who had a rose saying “ah you bought me a rose, how thoughtful!”. It’s after saying that that I realized a bf bought it to them

I opened a HBgreek with “happy friday night!” and then she answered that she didn’t speak French, so I asked her – in English-if she spoke Spanish
• R: happy friday night! (in French)
• HBgreek: I don’t speak French, what did you say?
• R: happy friday night, do you speak Spanish?
• HB greek : no!
• R: and I don’t speak English! (in English)
• HB greek : hahahaha
• R: wow you must have a hard time communicating, how can you talk to people!
• HBgreek : (says something in greek, don’t have a clue what it is)
• R: I don’t speak Russian neither!
• Hb greek : it’s not Russian it’s greek!
• And we start a convo about Greece –I traveled there and I love it.
• Hb greek: wait, where are my friends?
• R: you don’t have to lie, you came here alone!
• Hb greek : haha! Noooo! Seriously, I can’t see them!
• R: I made them disappear!
• Hb greek : oh so you’re a magician!
• R : yes! You want me to do a magic trick?
• Hb greek : yes! (the friend comes over to grab her hand)
• R: pick a # between 1-4, don’t say it!
• Hb greek : (the friend is pulling hard but she wants to stay in set and is looking into my eyes)
• R: 3!
• Hbgreek: no! –and then her friend pulls her even harder so she has no choice to go! Gotta love girls…☺
Other sets we opened were with a dance battle, or just saying “hi! I’M rooster” and being friendly. Some sets wouldn’t be responsive or neutral, so I’d ask them who’s the best dancer and try to engage them this way, or tell them “ohhhh you girls are shy!” to try to create a reaction – they usually say no…, and then “group hug, you’re my new best friends”, and grab them all by the shoulders. They wouldn’t have any choice, but at the same time they weren’t actively involved so after this I would eject.
I realized, just like us guys, some girls don’t have any social skills, or are bored, or for wtv reason don’t want to talk at that moment. No big deal, move on, I’m having fun tonight.
So I drop Jezzamon at his place and I’m driving back home when I get a txt at 3,30 from a girl I had opened in the eaton center before Christmas!! Last time I heard of her was on NYE at 4,30 in the morning when she called me to tell me that I didn’t play my game right cuz I should have f*cked her the 1st night we met (I did the mystery’s 3 locations date spread over 3-4hours) instead of waiting for the 2nd night. I learned my lesson at that time that you jump on the train when it’s at the station!
So I picked her up and spent the night with her. Girls are funny.
The next day, Saturday, I’m heading to Ottawa to visit a girl I had picked up in a café 3 weeks earlier. We had gone for a drink that night, flirted but no KC, before she headed back home and stayed in contact since. I txted her on friday that I felt like coming to visit Ottawa and she agreed that I’d sleep on her couch and to be my guide.
So I show up around 6 at her apartment, but she makes me wait outside for at least an hour because she has to clean the place and shower! I already was an hour late! Girls are really funny. So I went to the Ottawa river, read and meditated before going back to her place.
I had all kind of scenarios in mind before walking through that door. Option 1: I ring the bell, she opens, I kiss her , take her by the neck and press her against the wall, tear her clothes off and the rest is history. Option 2: refer to option 1.
So before I walk in, she txts me that she’s in the shower but that the door is open and that I can watch tv while she finishes to get ready. Damn. That wasn’t in the options anticipated. So that’s just what I do, then she walks out of the shower and…she barely comes over in the living room to say hi. She’s walking all over the apartment, talking about her night on friday, doesn’t look at me, I can’t even get an eye contact. I figure she’s nervouuuus as hell. I’m nervous too. We open then bottle of wine I brought, have a glass, we’re sitting on the couch –it hurts to write this. It’s in a L shape, there are 2 3 seat sections with an armrest and a single seat in between these 2 sections, in the corner. She decides to sit in that single seat…I sit as close as I can but we’re still 1meter apart! All I’m thinking about is “how am I going to pull this one off”, ” com’on, command her to come sit next to you, be dominant”, “what if she doesn’t comply, it’s gona ruin the night cuz I’ll have shown my intentions right from the beginning”… so I don’t make a move and we’re starving so we go meet some of her friends in a restaurant. We head to 2 different bars that night with one of her friends before heading back home.
The entire night, there’s not really any playful interaction going on between us. I keep thinking “what should I do to make her attracted” or “what should I say to make this interaction funny” while I listen to what she’s saying –nothing really interesting.
I open a few sets that are around us at the bar to see her reaction and perhaps create some jealousy, but I feel like I’m holding myself back. I open some girls, high5s and light kino, but I don’t get into any big convo and so I don’t have any reaction from her. The night ends, we head back to her place and start a movie with the rest of the bottle of wine. Same situation as when I arrived.
However when we’re about to go to sleep, I grab her arm and tell her I would regret not doing this and pull her towards me on the couch. She resists, seems uncomfortable, so I stand up, look into her eyes and go for the kiss, she’s about to give me her cheek but then changes her mind and kisses me. I could tell she wanted to kiss me and was glad I did, but she seemed nervous. She’s about to walk back to her room, so I grab her again and pull her into me once more, kiss her again. Now that was even better than the one before, she’s turned on, and I want to get her screaming for the rest of the night. I smell her hair and whisper in her ear that I love her smell.
However, she pulls backs, tells me in a nervous voice “no rooster, I’m tired.” and then I was speechless for a second. I say “ok lets go to bed”, take her by the waist and lead her to her bedroom, but she says “sorry, I can’t”. I give her a hug and tell her “don’t worry we won’t do anything that we don’t want to” and wait for her reaction.- I should have lead her right after saying this instead… she refused and I had to sleep on the couch for the night. Damn it. Perhaps there wasn’t enough comfort and the gap from that kiss to her bed was wayyy to much for her. I had tried to kino her during the evening but she wasn’t receptive.
The next morning I wake up and she’s finishing to get ready, so I figure I’ll kiss her when she comes out of the bathroom when I say good morning, but she stayed far from me. I jump in the shower and then she’s already ready to leave her place and head downtown to eat. There were other moments where I could have gone for the kiss, of course. I’d like to know if her reactions during the w/e were because she wasn’t attracted to me or if it’s because she was too attracted, nervous and waiting for me to make a move. Compared to other girls, this one seems a lot more intimidated or uncomfortable with me being physically close to her or kinoing her. She’s 32, been in LTR before and now she told me she wants the whole package. She’s from the Philippines, close to her family and seems submissive – she really is more of a follower and doesn’t like to take decisions. Who could help with this one, any comments or things I didn’t see? She’s supposed to come back to Montreal in a couple of weeks to party –she has family here, logistics won’t be as easy.
That wraps up this 4th week of intensive PUA lifestyle!