Last night was a a very interesting night for me. i am naturally very good at creating conversation and maintaining it, it probably stems from being from a big family, always having people around to talk to. However i noticed a few days ago when i was in a club, these phrases which ive been learning to induce push pull based attraction with women flowed unnaturally with the nature of my usual conversational game, leading to girls believing i was too arrogant, and consequently resulted in failure.

this time i applied a new approach, i was going to use my natural, comfortable game by inducing chatting, saying funny things, making the girl smile, taking my time to build rapport as opposed to rushing and rather than using stock phrases. my main concentration was to focus on my natural strength, and then utilize a small part of game theory to try and improve on my natural ability. i used two parts of game theory which i dont usually emply to build on my game, these were being honest with praising a girl, and use of body language gestures.

firstly id like to say im at a very good university in England, and as such all the girls here are straight A students, although girls can be considered relatively similar from a broad perspective, these women do possess very wonderful intelligence qualities and give game back as good as they receive it.

my first goal of the night was to proof the club, i stood at the bar, talked to any guy or girl near me, built rapport, initiated time constraints, finished with have a good night and left. then i proceeded to the half full dancefloor doing weird funny dancing with groups of guys/girls and twisted girls around etc, further social proofing. then i proceeded to use on of my skills. there wasnt any breakdancers around. but an excellent tune came on. Now im a bit older (24) i dont use breakdancing to get girls, but it helps. i decided that i will only breakdance if i like the song and i personally enjoy it. if i dance for my personal enjoyment people will see it, and it will only further expand my sphere of reality over them. i refuse to do it for show like a monkey, i get paid for that. Anyway as an excellent tune came on i did a few flips/headspins e.t.c so they knew what they were dealing with, then i went to rejoin my friends. the temporary flash in the pan.

this was my casing of the place. Now it was time to mack, i established where 3 groups of friends were on the dancefloor and formed a triangular pattern of movement between them all, seamless integration and dis-integration of groups on the danefloor offered perfect cover for maccin on girls. i went up to lots of groups, said the standard AFC opener, (openers can be anything, theyre not important) then instead of a neg i just said nice things. (this was one part of the game i introduced) so instead of saying "i like your tights, shame theres a ladder" i said "i love your tights, they match your top perfectly, theres an eye for fashion". spilling some of the happiness cup i have works better for me than negging girls ive just met. i then proceeded to dance and use physical negs instead of verbal. e.g ruffle the hair...and my favourite... turning the back to them for four seconds looking around as if disinterested. infact yesterday was the first time i tried the turning around neg. its really wonderful. i got a few numbers that way. if i use verbal negs... i come across as too arrogant, i guess that stems from my already fairly cemented internal confidence.

later i met a korean girl 7-8/10 short skinny and my type. on the dancefloor i social proofed her friends (guys id met previously at the bar) and proceeded to pursue. i situated myself next to her, and asked her where she was from, she said korea and i said "WOW! excitedly" threw a wink and stepped back with a bit of a more serious demeanor (showing value) she came forward, and asked "why are you excited, can you speak korean" i said "maybe".... she (curious) said "hmmm" while looking at me. then i leaned into her ear and said "i can speak a little korean, but theres always room for improvement" in Korean, pulled back, smiled, and watched her wide facial expression. she tried to burst into a korean conversation, but i simply said in korean "the music is too loud in here to converse well, lets chat a bit later'. with that i left her in the circle, to demonstrate higher value.

i returned 30 mins later after social proofing to see her again, quick chat and i decided to isolate her, and bring her outside. it was cold so i didnt have long. after isolation we were chatting in korean she was praising me, and instead of me doing the push pull i was just honest with a nice smile, saying shes gorgeous, and i want to kiss her. and saying that i know shes more shy than english girls. Even though shes lived in england for 4 years, her shyness is still quite ingrained. By using the praise style verbal game, and saying shes gorgeous and things it validated her, and by saying i wanted to kiss her it made it clear that our relationship is never going to be friend zoned. when i leant in i kissed her cheek and she blushed, koreans really fear looking like a slut so she was quite nervous. anyway before it got cold i arranged her to come to my house next week and ill cook. the game helped me show her that i was interested, as i usually wouldnt say, "your gorgeous" or "im so glad i came out tonight, because i met you" through fear of giving too much away. but once rapport is established it doesnt matter, and girls cling to those words. Also when she comes over she knows what she in for. im thankful to the online PUA's who talked about this skill. thankfully when it comes to isolation and moving to full *** in my apartment. i have little issues

later that night i met a 7/10 girl id met at the bus stop and day-gamed, she came onto me, so number closed, put her on the reserve list.

towards the end of the night i met a thai girl too, very shy, obviously from a rich, reserved family, but i told her im going there after i finish my masters, and told her the positive things id heard about thailand, to which of course her eyes lit up and she filled in the gaps. i number closed of course. Kissing would blow it with my primary target. the Korean.


Anyway from what i experienced tonight i realised 2 things. When i try stock negging, it can affect my natural game greatly and infact make me seem very arrogant. i think i must already have an arrogant demeanor, so rather than negging verbally i do it subtly and more lightly through body language, which in turn offers a perceptual form of higher value, without the need for verbal demonstration. the isolation, leaning, and turning away techniques are excellent.

secondly, girls like to be told you find them attractive, if you make them feel good and they see that you are a confident man i feel theres no need to integrate shallow negs to make them like you. this may be me personally, but i feel that the negs have cut my shine a little during the flirting game, it might simply just be the execution, but its something i need to work on or simply drop.

this is a wonderful process of evolution, and unfortunately i havent met any like minded PUA's in sheffield yet, but im hoping anyone reading can offer advice, during my journey of self PUA learning.

keep it real guys x

Wow...I don't have any advice for you but have you read my thread on here? We are like identical twins...

I also feel more comfortable with a conversational approach. I'm at uni also. As for negs, I don't like being too blunt either but I still believe in a bit of playful teasing combined with more direct flattery. It seems to work more naturally that way, say if you gently tease her accent rather than saying something like, "oh, what are those? Hair extensions?" in a bitchy way.

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Good stuff, by the way.
That is absolutely amazing if you can do that. Last night I went out I only had one group of friends, so I kept having to awkardly leave them, whilst scousing out single women on the dance floor in more of a kinda circular motion. Actually come to think of it I had at least one other friend on the dance floor whom I forgot about; I should have tried to get into his circle, me thinks. I think you need to get to the club early: that way you can make contact with lots of different people.
I know, it works really well, doesn't it - I was surprised. Or you can just drop eye contact for a second or two. Or what I do sometimes is leave her for a few minutes to dance/talk with someone else (preferably female). Then either approach her again or see if she approaches you again (which happened last night). Where I get lost is what to do when the woman tries it on you

hey man, i just read your profile, the apocalypse opener! crazy bold move! going to a bar alone --> also brave. infact ive done that a few times before aswell, had to really psyche myself up to begin and go out without any social value; a true test of oneself. its amazing that how even having a loser with you, as long as they are with you, you can gain a sense of confidence.
Having that lifeline stripped away in a social environment such as a bar where primarily all people go in groups for the purpose of alcohol consumption and social interaction is scary, and a move i only make if im desperate.
i know you fear having your identity blown and stuff, but people arent really truly bothered enough to search for people like us and expose us, and even if we are exposed for being players, it contributes to our popularity.
a girl came into a two set i was approaching 2 nights ago, shes in some of my uni classes, always been rude to me and out of the blue hugged me from behind, kissed me on the cheek and told the girls to go away because im a player. later on (a little annoyed) i saw that same girl who told those girls i was a player, talking with a man, so i walked up to him and said "stay away that ones dangerous", but hes a man, he has a penis, combine that with AFC'dom and he isnt going anywhere haha. what baffled me the most is what happened next. the same girl that said i was a player to those girls, looks at me while talking to that guy, pulls me in by the back of my head and tries to kiss me, i slide to the cheek and she tries again. i can only imagine what that guy thought, but i ejected quickly with a smile. shes not my type. Furthermore, 30 minutes later the girls who she'd "exposed" me to, found me on the dancefloor and went for gold.
your development is interesting, i hope it goes well for you. if you live in sheffield, hit me up. lets do some damage.

J

I'm gonna be honest, I have ups and downs. I went out tonight and just thought screw this its not going anywhere. But yeah, when I have ups it feels amazing.

As for the apocalypse opener, that one has fucked with my head. I swear it has changed my personality the last few days, so using it stops you from being flirty and makes you become almost too direct, bold and serious even in daily interactions. Or maybe that is just me Either way, use it at discretion, heh.
Thanks for the vote of confidence man and it seems you are already doing ten times better than me. I hope it pans out
If only I lived in Sheffield, haha!