Thanks Swagneto,

Thats half the reason i write it, if i can achieve things anyone can, and this journal makes a great template for anyone willing to try!

A Journal also helps you review, revise and correct mistakes and see your own progress.

-The secret to learning is applying it as soon as youve read something. Rather than read an entire book, then trying to apply it. Start with chapter 1, go out and practice it until its almost second nature. Then proceed to chap 2 and so forth.

I cant emphasise enough how to create step by step, inch by inch targets towards your final goal.

This comes to mind as i applied it today running with my mate, he was really flagging and we had 400m to go. So i kept shouting at him, next post its only 10ft! and again next post! - Consequently, we sprinted the entire 400m.

I guarantee you if you just said to him, sprint to the finish! He would never of made it.

Agreed, Kasabi is like a sensei. Where is that picture from anyway? reminds me of FF7 or something.

Keep reading, ill keep up to date

Regards,

Boyo

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Hey Boyo, my friend. I just thought that I would share something with you. Your journal inspired me a lot too and I'll soon start my own. It won't be a regular learning journal though because it will be focused on Speed Seduction and NLP. That's pretty much the only aspect of the game that I have yet no in-field experience with. I don't want to hijack your thread much so I'll PM you the link when it's on the boards if you're interested, just let me know.

Anyway... you're now at a new stage. You're not only learning but you're learning how to learn too. This is very important because it will make your progress faster and it will also make it easier for you to give your knowledge to other people. Keep up the nice work, peace!

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i have the same problem about going solo. the worst feeling is when you know the self-doubt and hesitancy is pure b.s. but you still feel it. My thing is that "what if people have seen me walk down this street before and that i'm by myself."

having a wing with similar knowledge, even a LITTLE knowledge can go a long way. no man should seek validation, but it doesn't hurt though with a buddy letting you know you're doing alright!

props for going to a bar solo, i couldnt do that yet.

I like reading your posts and your evolution , Boyo.
Because I am in a similar situation.

Probably, my biggest fear is this:

"With great power comes great responsibility"

in other words : " having a girlfriend is good, but it comes with big responsabilities and a lot of problems"

I know, I suck !

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Thanks guys, as i said before, the more feedback i get and the more people interested, the more ill go out and make your time spent talking to me worth it!

@ In$tinct my friend .

Good to hear, i can say enough how much it helps. Obviously you need less feedback and work to do than i, so understandably you wont need to post so often.
Definitely interested, show us what your learning, and i can learn from your mistakes and try it myself - link the material you use to learn too. Ill follow suit!

- Agreed, if anything i would recommend people to learn how to learn first. its saves so much time! - learn yourself, find what works for you. Then pursuit what you want.

@ mrjones
You're completely right. I went out with a fellow PUA learner. I was 10x more confidant and competent. - True, its almost like you're doing it to impress. But what's bad about that while you learn and become more competent?

However, if you don't eventually do it yourself without a wing, your not making progress.

- Thanks, i wont take full credit, i kind of ended up there because my mate had to leave, however i stayed and gave it a go!

@Arhanghelul Sounds like girlfriend problems! and why do you suck?

- Theres loads of advise in the relationship section, and atfer being in a serious relationship im sure i can help somehow. Im always up for a pm if you want to talk more.

I want to add while im on the subject... - i notice im starting to give advise here and there, and ive become concious of it.
So ill say here, i will never give advise im not 100% sure about, or gained from personal experience.
I suppose i shouldnt care too much since what i give as its an opinion in the end. - However i will be mindful as it can effect other people.
This anxiety and new world of advise giving shouldnt stop me, ive learned valuable stuff! haha

In terms of news for myself: - Nothing to report, ill try get out one evening this week, and obviously out on the weekend.
- still need to see the new SPAM and spider movies!!

Regards,

Boyo

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25th July '12

What an awesome evening, ive had a few hard days work, i felt like a caged animal wanting to get out.

So i went to explore the local nearby village and have a pint of Magners. It by the way is amazing weather here in the uk at the moment, a rarity indeed. I get a huge buzz when its like this!

So i was down there with a new work mate, and i see a bench with 2 girls laughing with each other. My new mate eyes them up. "smash" he quotes, (a RAF term for yea i would "smash" her in)

- I reply, want to talk to them? - He laughs and says yea right.

- I slap the table, and say: "right then".

-I walk over and open with: "excuse me girls" and invite myself on the outdoor table.
I instantly follow with: "apart from me and my mate over there, you two are the only other people laughing seem to be having fun"
- they giggle a little and i follow again with: im
-My mate then seems to build up the courage to come sit opposite me.
-"ah there he is"! i add
-"were both new in town, just want to know what there is to do round here and a good night out"

-so we proceed with details and a bit of general chit chat.. - which i think is my weakest point at the moment, i feel like it turns into a interview too much, i only ask questions that im interesting in about her.
I want to arrive there and blow them out of the water and have them fascinated and wet for me in 20-30 min, similar to how Neil Strauss does it. I am aware however that may not even be possible!
- i need to sit down and think about this more before i proceed.. any advise would be great.

-so anyway. I say we got to go watch the new SPAM movie (which was awesome), so i leave with: well since im like a deer in headlights in new places, i need a guide to show me around Lincoln, know anyone who will come up and show me?

-Falling for the trap she say they will (i was so happy it worked! haha) so i get her number, and walk away.
-My new mate stares in wonder as we walk towards the local cinema
- "Did that just happen?" he says!
-i reply "did what just happen, they're just a pair of random people i decided to say hi too, why put them on a pedestal?"
-He replies: "aaaah.. i get what you mean" -( i dont actually think he did..)

-So a successful and awesome evening! - except.. i didnt save her number! bloody idiot i am. haha. Ah well.. ill have to go and find another tour guide i guess

Finally a good and bad review:

What i did Good
1: I actually got up there, approached and opened a two set. My FIRST ever. I didnt plan...or think what to say. I just went up with the mind set of.. fuck it..
2:I closed the number without actually asking directly, which was very good for me!
3: i talked to both girls equally, not just the one i wanted, and manage to keep my friend involved too.

What i did Bad
1: i had two pints beforehand.. so i wasnt 100% true confidence.
2: i had a bit of pressure and motivation to do it, and do it right as my new mate was watching - this event was going to effect what he would say about me to other people, and how i stand in the new workplace.
(I dont care what people think about me, however if im known to be good with the women, the lads will invite me to more places, parties, have more contacts... etc.. which all helps towards building my network of people in this new area)
3:I only just manage to keep the conversation from going stale. I want to be consistently entertaining and keeping them on the edge of their seats.
Im sure it will come with time.. im making good progress as it is
4: I didnt save her number lol

Thats all for tonight folks,

Regards,

Boyo

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There I fixed it for you! Now for some other things...
It is actually possible to make them dripping wet in 15 minutes. Just takes practise.(no... I can't do that yet...) I assume if you can make them wet at all that's fine lol.
Of course you only ask questions which interests you silly, that's how the conversation remains natural! Nothing wrong with that. The problem is that you don't pay enough attention to your REAL interests about her. Aren't you interested in some more exciting things about her than her work and stuff like that? I'm sure you are. Then ask whatever comes into your mind and find it exciting just make a fluent transition. Say a first kiss, or the best childhood memory. I be damned if the casual stuff interests you more than these

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Alright Mr. Show-off . . .

Kidding about the "show-off" thing but . . . it's fun isn't it? By they way, that kid is now telling ALL your work buddies about that night. . .
Although a bombardment of "statements" about yourself (I am this, I am that. I am cool. I am hot.) would be childish, statements about the the girl can be a ton of fun. Follow up every one of answers to your questions with statements ABOUT HER. Chicks love being "told" about themselves . . . even if it's totally off.

You: So what would be your dream holiday?
Her: I don't know . . . Hawaii?
You: You're asking me? You're thoughtful . . . (then like some fortune teller) You know what you want but you often give up some things you want for the needs of others don't you? (And you say this without a hint of irony.) Then just go off to the next topic.

^It gives them to OK to say whatever the hell is on their minds and rewards them with positive reinforcement. She'll feel good enough to blabber. . . you'll want to filter for relationship/sexual topics and pounce on them.

@ In$tinct
Thanks for the updated good and bad points In$tinct - great additions.
I will disagree with 2 pints however.. it was a Strong 6% cider, there was a little influence without doubt. However after today and seeing how i did it so easily, i can do it sober next time.

I didnt save her number out of lack of care, it was lack of concentration and forgetting to press save! lol

-Agreed, i think if you're "amazing" and jaw dropping enough, with everything you do being gold dust, why wouldnt they be? Girls have influence on us like that, so why not us with them? - We just need to learn to hit the rights spots at the right sequence at the right time (not too much then! :S)


-True, thats my approach at the moment. Completely natural, i pretty much say what i think and what i want to know. However with your point.. i will start focusing more what i want to know and in particular more flirtatious and interesting things. Great suggestion mate.

@ Master Kasabi
- Thats going to turn out to be my new nickname isnt it? The irony and reality in it is unfathomable!
- what is fun the boasting or the actually doing pickup? - In fact both are!
- Even with pure inner game, who doesn't want to shout out their achievements, if at a minimum to themselves? However the difference being, you shouldnt need to prove or do things for others. Only yourself.
Simple, but genius. Will you ever stop giving awesome advise kasabi! You're like a bottomless pit of good info.

-Explaining my understand of the above quote... Stating phrases gives off a sense of wisdom, confidence and insight, as if you was looking right into her soul. Its understandable why it works.

Putting this into practice will require some time. its certainly not an overnight job. - It might be easier to look at yourself and say what you are, rather than trying to predict what she is.

However, does it really not matter even if your wrong? if you kept getting it wrong, wouldn't you just start looking like a judgemental dick or something?

Regards,

Boyo

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As long as you keep listing attractive qualities such as:
-adventurous
-exciting
-dangerous(in a playful way)
-smart, etc...

She will want to believe they're true even if they're not so she will buy into your frame.

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It's easy to have fun with "fun". Meaning, everybody is a fun person when things are fun. On the other hand, it takes a genuinely fun person to have fun through less than desirable circumstances. You did "OK" in your mind so you had a blast. Find a way to have this much fun even when you don't do "OK". PU is nothing more than a fun time out with people . . .
Mr. Serious Engineer,

Leave your work at work. At work, I suppose if you do something wrong, there could be serious consequences. At a bar however, getting a confused look from a girl or even a middle finger will be the 'worst thing' that can happen; not too bad really . Secondly, people go out at night to get away from "serious". They go out to joke and laugh. Women especially go out to exercise their imaginations. They may ask, "What do you do for work, where did you go to school, etc . . ." but their minds are not at work and school. Their minds usually dangle in la-la land fantasizing about princes and unicorns. . . (relationships, holidays, sex, etc . . .)

There is a difference between the village idiot 'know it all' and the guy who role plays the village idiot know it all for laughs. And all of this really just comes down to accepting fun. As long as you mean well and the goal is pick up + laughter, you'll always be OK . . .

Thinking of an example:

A female friend and I crashed an office birthday party at an ocean side club and sat with a bunch of ladies. One was an exceptionally 'handsome' lady. Great bone structure, awesome smile, looked to be young 30's. . . any how, the conversation was all ladies stuff . . . shopping, guys at the club, vacations. Then the pretty one answers a few questions: She's a lawyer, 40, and single. My reply, "So what's wrong with you?" (Curious look on my face)

My female friend's jaw opened wide looking like she wanted to kill me. The other ladies froze up too. . . then I followed with, "Well, you're obviously pretty . . . gorgeous really. Eh hem. . . sexy. And you have a sense of humor. You're professional. . . and no eligible man has whisked you off to marriage? . . "

Another lady, "She's been waiting for you."

^This kind of broke the ice and everybody on the table began trying to set us up. She stared at me all night long . . .

Oh and I offered her some professional advice. "Well, although I don't practice law, I've seen deals like this before. Your client needs to pay off ________ at the Housing Authority.

"I'm pretty sure that's illegal."
"Only if you get caught."
"No, I'm pretty sure bribing is illegal whether you get caught or not."
"Don't play smart with me young lady."

^Remind yourself that pick up ≠ business meeting.

So many thoughts, so much to say, so much to learn and do! im having another one of those moments where i feel like im going to explode with anticipation. So taking some of kasabi's advise, ill direct it and write some objectives:

First however, i would like to say an observation ive found.
Since coming to PUA and discovering the world of inner and outer game and in particular looking at the dynamics of social activity. I feel like a child again.
-Its like im learning about how to talk and socialise with people all over again.
This is obviously due to the fact im 100% of everything i and other people say, do and evaluating what im seeing.

To the point: its unfathomable, frankly almost addictive. The ultimate goal would be manipulation almost. To what to say and do, know how to react to situations.
The potential there to make such a great success of yourself, not just with women, but Everything.

Secondly: People love to complain
I guess i only just realised this with my new found awareness. In every conversation i hear, at some point someone will complain about something. No matter who, where, what you are. People are never happy!
- I noticed its almost a bridge people make in conversation to have something in common.

This made me smile
Because i realised i really have grasped inner game. Since the start of this in june. i havent moaned about anything in my life like: "work sucks, weather sucks etc.." Dont get me wrong i always seek to improve.
But im genuinely happy with who i am and what i have. I almost feel like i dont need to aim for anything with this unfamiliar feeling of content. My whole life ive driven myself and been pushed. Ive never been happy with achievements and accomplishments.
The tides are changing

Back to the Goals:
Ill add these to my total objective later, for now i need to go, so ill get them out my head first:

-Make and practice statements after questions. - Keep them positive and complimentry
-find, Ask and practice more interesting questions such as: Say a first kiss, or the best childhood memory. (will expand and give you guys my ideas later)
- how do i go about this? its not like i cant tell myself im going to have fun failing. Is there a method or a way i can practice becoming this?

Lastly: -This explains a lot about me. And was a source of a lot of my earlier inner game problems.
My whole life ive had it drilled in me to drive to be better.. In the raf careers, Mistakes arent an option, because millions of £ and lifes are at stake.
So small common human mistakes got to me.

I may be happy with myself and my mistakes, and welcome them. But its obvious it still affects my game. ill look into this further and come back to you all,

Regards,

Boyo

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14th June ’12

While reading this please grab some popcorn and listen to the songs:
45 – by gaslight anthem
Gold on the ceiling – by the black keys.

They bear no relevance to this, they’re just awesome songs that gave me a buzz writing this.

To my report:
So after without doubt one of the most awesome, inspirational holidays I have been on thus far. I feel this is the next crossroad of my life, just like when I got into pickup that gave me that first step to the new me, I need to act on my thoughts now, make a plan and stick to it. Otherwise I will just return to my old gaming ways.

A little background to what brought me to this:
A few weeks back, I had the opportunity to have two weeks off. Normally I would sit around and play computer games all week, before I knew it the week had past. But thanks to you guy the forum, I wanted to go out and live. You only live once kind of approach. So I watched two of my favourite movies: Yes-man (may have mentioned in an earlier post) and limitless.

I wanted SO much to go to the airport and ask for the next flight out of the airport. In the end I didn’t have the balls for it. So I went for the next best thing, and booked myself a solo/singles adventure holiday touring the south east coast of turkey (heres the link to give you an idea what type of holiday it was: http://www.exodus.co.uk/holidays/SPAM/overview)

The holiday was awesome, I met some amazing people, I had an amazing time and tried something new every day, I’ve never felt so rewarded and happy with myself.
One guy in particular though: Geoff. The Kiwi - New Zealander, the tour group leader with Strong Aussie accent. He truly lived the life to have. He is an adventure tour guide, who can lead and teach in any sport you can name from paragliding to canyoning, scuba diving and skiing to base jumping. This was his day job all year round. When he didn’t work, he would backpack across a country with nothing more than a toothbrush, spare clothes and a map.

When he wasn’t working socialising or partying. His evenings are spent reading, learning a new language and most recently his family.
Its obviously not the best paid it the world. But he earns more than enough to have a house, support his wife and kid and party most evenings! Not to mention he moves countries every few years! He doesn’t own a fancy phone, computer or tv. He doesn’t need possessions to be happy.

This guy backed up my initial theory, you don’t need money to be happy. Some of the poorest people ive met, are also the happiest. Kenya for example: This kid had a 1998 Manchester United shirt. Torn to bits it was. It was his pride and joy, more importantly however, he constantly had a smile on him. Him and his family were the kindest happiest people ive met, even though they had nothing. No mobile, a wooden hut for a house, the river for a shower/bath. Nor were they envious of all my fancy possessions and clothes (they were jealous of running water however ).
So to conclude my rant.. Geoff said this to me: “you got the best of both worlds mate. You have a secure and fun technical job, a great wage, and the ability to go tour any country for a few weeks with the security of money behind you which sometimes I didn’t have!”

He was right, with my weeks off, rather than sit about all day, I can go tour a country, bike through villages and mountains, learn new languages, meet new people. Practice pickup and foreign girls and shag a new girl in each new location!.

When I finally leave the air force, (about 6 years time) I can have all the qualifications to teach sports like Geoff does during the summer or winter, along with my electrical trade there are endless options for work. Not to mention i have the ideology of enjoy my job > wage
The world is my oyster and I aim to use it. I can have the best of both worlds.

Moving onto the relevance of the movie Limitless: It’s a bit farfetched with the brain enhancing drug. However, what it did teach me is the brain is capable of so much if you can dedicate the time to practice something, my change in confidence is but a small example of its capability.

Without further ado, my updated objectives: Updated: 14th August '12
(green = completed)

Cut down on the gaming. Completely.

If I am to do this, I need something to do. As soon as I am bored ill resort to gaming again, I therefore need to give myself things to do with my spare time, ill achieve this by:

-Plan a Tour of Bulgaria: That’s right. Why Bulgaria you ask? I didn’t choose. I took up Geoff’s idea of how to pick a country. Play tail on the donkey, but with the world map! Bulgaria was where I put the pin. I am to either travel by bus to a few set destinations and relax for a few days in sunny beach and Sofia, or tour more remote areas with my mountain bike, travelling about 50k a day. Ill update on a plan when I make one.

-Learn a new language: The obvious choice is Bulgarian. I have a few months before im able to go there, so it makes sense to learn the next country I visit. I plan to do this with an audio mp3 on my iphone, and play it whenever possible.
-Learn the acrylic alphabet. Makes navigation MUCH easier supposedly.

- Really get back into Dual/tri Athlon. Fitness take a good few hours up on the evening.

-Pick up the guitar again. I used to be awesome. Now I cant play sh*t.
songs to re-learn: (pink floyd - wish you were here) (Oasis - wonderwall) (Radiohead – High and Dry)

When ive done all of the above

-spend an hour or so practicing Pickup and general socialising.
Ill achieve this by:

-carry out the newbie task

- Go on the forum, read and review my and other journals. Help and give advise others.

-Get out to practice more. Go to the nearby shopping centre at least 2 time a week
must achieve 10 weeks in a row to pass. Set at: 15th June '12.
Currently: 8 weeks
(i know its a low amount however its a realistic and achievable goal.)

-I fear of going by myself. Isnt that weird/creepy?. How do i overcome this? - this is still a big objective for me..
so I tried solo sarging.. and i cant do it yet. Perhaps when ive got tight game and i can pull anyone i like, i could go by myself. But im nowhere near good enough to solo.

-Go out night out at least once a weekend - must achieve 10 weeks in a row to pass. Set at: 15th June '12
Currently : 8 weeks

-Continuously work on inner game until i am totally confident with myself. No subconscious counter thoughts etc.
expanding on this:

1: 10 day positive thinking challenge
- upped the anti to 20 days + setting record. Set at: 13th June '12. Currently : - lost track, the last was 30+ days...
It really worked! - granted sometimes i dig at myself or think a negative thought, but it is instantly shot down. My new confidence easily overpowers my old negative self. - and not just a shell either, ive really worked on my inner game, approached my problems that caused me to be self critical and self demeaning.


2:Focus on the present.. not what might happen, or what they might think. When i do that the thought is purely the current frame of mind, - or usually bad and creates fear. I need to focus on just what im going to say, rehearse maybe once or twice and go for it. im almost there with this. i tell myself this every day, i will green it all when its second nature

3:Care less to what people think and say about me.
I am what i am, is their problem if they have a problem about me.

4:Dont react or think twice to banter - laugh with people. - This isnt completely natural yet.. Some things have caught me out, however, i handle it a lot better than i used to. Still work in progress.

5:Find out within me why i take things so personal.
Why i fear and hate mistakes.. - again - Inner game and i found why. Now i want mistakes, i thrive off them. A mistake is an inch closer to your objective. Not an inch away!

Complete Chief's guide to outer game
Expanding on this
1:Familiarise myself with my AE (Approach Excitement) - have no fear approaching super hot women
- i have made significant progress on this, however, its not quite no fear yet.

2:Carry out opening, the compliance ladder and conversation without thought or hesitation.
- doing pretty well, so far i dont really think about what to say. or bother with canned stuff. i usually think of something to say after "hi" to follow on with.
However, escalation and compliance ladder i havent really consciously started yet.
This weekend i am meeting up with a number closed girl i met behind a bar, so i will try the sexual frame techniques by gunswitch, and see if i can make it a first meeting first shag event.

3: Understand, apply Sexual SFT without thought or hesitation.

4: Understand, apply Sexual Tension without thought or hesitation.

5: Find and manage my expectations

6:Learn how to handle AMOG'S (alpha male of the group)

7:Learn to approach groups, befriend them all, then isolate target

-Once im familiar and completed with Chiefs Outer game, focus and hone my skills, work towards more ballsy approaches such as shock and awe etc.. get more lays.
-Im slowly reaching my goals with chiefs Outer game, its not second nature, or perfected yet. But i am a lot more familiar with it, when im with a girl, im thinking what to do next, escalate, using frame, etc...

-Get good a night game:
1:Learn and apply The skills method to club game
2:Learn to dance..

- Reach Top 20 in a Triathlon race- Wont waste your time or space writing my program on here, if you want to know more PM me.
-Complete my home Half Marathon in time of 1hr 39min
- After the week of intense adventure sports and mountain biking, I feel like my body has been reignited and ready for any sport/exercise. Starting today im getting out on my road bike and tearing up these roads.

One last note:
My initial intention when joining this forum was to pull women. It has turned into so much more than that. In fact, it’s one of the lower things on my list. I want to work on myself, better myself and live life. Any girl lucky enough to cross my path and tag along will have a great time with me. I’m not shy anymore and not afraid of saying hi to the person opposite me. I won’t need any pickup skills, technique or lines because hopefully, she will be fascinated with my way of life, thinking and in the future all my new abilities If she’s not, then it’s her loss and ill carry on living it up my way.
Maybe when I’ve finally reached the target I want, ill start work on honing pick up… and actually be aware of what I do and put more resources into Chiefs guide rather than take this natural approach.

So there we are, wish me luck.

I hope this has been a good read,

Regards,
Boyo

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It is completely natural to feel this way. Human beings are social animals that depend on one another. I honestly can't remember the last time I went to the club by myself, but I already did that stuff in the past. I still tend to frequent lower-energy venues like bars by myself, though.

That being said, practicing alone like this isn't something you should wait until you get "better" for. Going by yourself is a necessary lesson for you to get good. Just remember that, to overcome a fear, the most direct way of doing so is to do the thing you fear.

Most guys, when they go out to learn and practice pickup, tend to use a wingman as a confidence crutch instead of as a wingman. Don't fall into that trap! You really only need a wingman for 2-sets, anyway.

I really wish I would have written the section on the compliance ladder better, with clearer details. When I'm applying these concepts, the compliance ladder seems to be the dominating aspect of my game, even more important than Sexual SFT. Other PUAs' experiences may vary, of course, but for me the compliance ladder is king. I hope you see the benefit of it soon.

Hello all,

Firstly@ Chief: Thanks! for looking at my journal. My story below backs up and shows your advise is completely correct. The escalation is hugely important in getting a girl back. You need to entice and turn her on for anything to happen.

Agreed on the wingman point too.. He's there to help isolate and entertain the other mate/group. If you need him for a clutch or confidence. You haven't mastered inner game completely.

Without further ado. Here is a field report of Wed the 15th:

This is a long story, scroll to the bottom for the summary and pro's/con's.

This night was without doubt, one of the most surreal successful and many new "firsts" ever, A threesome was about to happen too! Well... Almost. Read on.

i met up with a fellow afc who recently moved into town, he invited me on a night out with his flat mate and her mates (ended up being 5 girls and us 2!). I didnt try anything on with them.. didnt really like any the look of any of them in honesty.

That brings me to my first problem i cant really "sarg" unless i find the girl nice, i cant build a false sexual frame or pretend to be bothered about her. In hindsight.. this isnt a problem, completely natural if anything, just makes practising sarging harder because im pickier with my target!

So anyway.. we have a few drinks at the flat, headed out to the club. Me and my mate go to the dance floor and started sarging. We both agree we are really bad a club game.. i seem to be good at it when im drunk.. but when sober.. i always get blown out. I need to do more research and find out why.

After a few attempts each, we feel a little deflated after all rejections and retire to the smoking area for a breather and review.

Thats when i saw my target. These two girls were gorgeous! A big grin appeared on my face and my mate asked what i was smiling at. "hold on" i replied. I made eye contact with them, it was now or never. I got up keeping eye contact and walked over asking: "so me and my mate are arguing over how old i look, he's saying im bloody 26! - please tell me hes not right"

Both girls smile and giggle. Look at eachother, and say "you look about 19/20?"
(im 23 so score!) and ask after how old i am, reply 23..then i ask how old they are, both 19... and its one of their birthdays. They both get up and say their heading to the dance floor and ask if im coming, "if i must..but only if you have some killer dance moves". They laugh and we head to the floor.

For the first time ever.. i had TWO girls grinding with me. One on each legs facing me, both hands on one of their asses each. I was in heaven.

We dance for a while, both seem happy to share me. Then two guys come along the girls seem to recognise.. they start hugging them and dancing. I did good here because rather than try to fight them for the girls or ask who they are.. i just kept dancing as if the guys hadn't arrived and looked around as if i was getting bored.

By joe it worked! After about 2 min in both girls ended up grinding on me again. The funniest bit was these two blokes faces.. absolutely dumbfounded.

So the two guys take their leave and probably a little confused, the night carries on. I make a mistake here of not escalating fast enough.. i should of tried to follow the 20 min rule. But i was having so much fun! I did escalate however, at one point having a different boob on each hand and caressing each body.

The other weird thing was.. when you seem popular with the girls, do other girls pick that up? Because girls started dancing with me. I was approached. (also a first) I turned them all back and kept grinding with the other two.

At this point images of my first threesome pop into my head. - And how to do it.
I read "the game" recently. And about the "1000 hand massage". It's all i had. How else was i going to have both girls? i didnt want to pick! (i should of done but ah well..) So i take them outside to talk, and bring up the 1000 hand massage. I thought it was a cheesy long shot. I was wrong. Both girls eyes lit up with smiles. They seemed genuinely intrigued by it.

Thats when my game started to fall apart.. I suddenly realised: i had nowhere to isolate! I was so caught up with everything, i forgot i had nowhere to take them! I was so desperate to have this happen i started asking if they had a place to go (both didn't) and started asking for suggestions where to go.. i flapped and lost all frame.

It was awful.. The girls then kind of clicked and asked: "so what happens after the massage?" I Replied: "We're all adults.. i just go with the flow and see where it takes me". They weren't any more convinced. Before my eyes i was losing the interest of these two amazing girls.
So i play the "dont care if i lose you card" again and said "I only show this to people who i feel worth and i respect anyway", not just any old person (kind of backing back on myself after showing great keenness in it earlier but it was all or nothing anyway). "so lets head to the floor and see what happens".

Got to the floor.. i said i was going to get a drink. I find my mate sitting with his SPAM. I sense of guilt overwhelms me. I deprived my wingman all this time. I later find he kept trying but got rejected every attempt, his confidence was really low, i should of followed the 20 min rule got back to him, picked him up and tried a new set. Instead i spent the entire night with these girls. Ive been the one thats been played.

I come to the conclusion i cant save the mess i made with the girls.. so the next best thing was grab their number. I went back, i said: "sorry but i got to take my mate home, hes not fairing well. We should carry this on another time though". One of the girls gives me her number and i say farewell.

That was the end of the night. Even now.. im so frustrated at what could of been. i was SO close. It was immense fun nonetheless though.

Summary:
Pros:

1: I opened a two set. My first ever pair of girls! woop!
2: Even though they were both amazing, i kept my form and still didnt care if i lost them. This attribute i think is key!
3: I didn't fight over the girls when other blokes came along and the girls really saw that. They kept having to fight for my attention.
4: I didnt buy them drinks
5: Even with all the mistakes, it was still HUGELY successful and a great confidence boost.
6: a really fun night.

Cons:
1: i didnt have an isolation plan!
2: I lost my frame and flapped when i realised it was end of the road.
3: I didnt build kino/escalate fast enough. Try to keep around the 20 min rule.. unless its a sure thing.
4:I text them Yestarday lunch. No reply . Evidently i cocked up more than i though/have told.

So there we have it. Please fire any questions or thoughts and Input any new pro's/cons ive missed

Regards,

Boyo

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