A sad lonely night
PUA: Phil, Klevelend, and myself.
Date 1/10/12
Location: Fairfield CT

We arrive at this place we found last week called bubbles, of course you can expect me made several gay jokes, so we went next door to Archies, I don't look 21 I dont look 16, I probably can pass as a minor in a theatre and get cheaper tickets. So of course I get carded, no worries I was driving and said I aint drinking.

After my mates have a drink we get ready to go out. We go to this one bar/lounge and its all dudes, so I decide to help my friend Klevelend who can't even talk to people to chat some up and get warmed up. We meet these two biker dudes and we start talking and I ask them where a good place to go is... I found out later this place hates me.

So we go across the street find another bar, its a bit quite but still some very nice girl, it wasn't the place we wanted so we left. Wrong choice we should have stayed. So there we are going to the place everyone is recommending us to go to, the Field.

FUCK!!! FUCK the bouncer at the field. Looks at my ID, then immediately demands to see my face, I already know I dont have blue eyes but this one says I do. He doesnt notice, then he says one second let me see again. FUCK!!! Ok I was like listen mate elt me keep it I going to florida in a week. Guy was a douche, I wanted to pick pocket him quickly but I wasn't thinking.

So we go back to the place before. My friend phil goes off to talk to a girl he # close. He doesn't know of this community but I give him tips here and there, he clearly doesn't need. But damn did he bs like fuck.

I see there's another chick who needed to get preoccupied so I take this new kid and teach him how to just chat to girls, she isn't being responsive so I call her out on it, I was wrong. She actually heard everything he and I were saying. Spoke for a bit then I left cause I had to play a pool game. I figured he was able to talk a bit more he did but then it died.

This hurt my mate little bit later on but I said get # and he asked her and got it. Very smooth.

Set: 2 guys 3 girls

After my game of pool I took my friend and he asked me how to open a girl. I said give me a word any word. So he said fish, I went into a 5 set and smacked the table, got their attention, smiled and said Hi, I just wanted to come over here and say the word fish, nothing more. Fish. One girl I think heard us or just knew what I was doing and called me out on it. Then said you can't start a convo by just saying fish. Um dumbass we're having a conversation about starting a convo with the word fish.

It goes on a bit and one of the two guys just grabs my necklace, didn't expect that, I was just like oh shit um kk relax a bit. Middle girl (my target if I had one) commented on how I was like get off queer. I give my friend the seat and try and talk to one of the girls, she was really bitchy, even said I'm a bitch you dont want to talk to me. I know that is an excuse, but at this point I didnt want to pick them up rather my friend just learn a bit.

I go to the other side of the table and I chat up a blond hb6 not my type but she was very nice. Her friends kept on looking, I am pretty sure the guys were gay cause they acted like high school kids. Covering their face and whisper, I mean really? So were chatting for 5 mins on just confidence and such. I shake her hand get her name and then bounce.

I see my friend is getting twat blocked, that chick is pulling her away so I sa quick get # and he got, said this already. After that we just left. We looked like bosses if someone was just watching. First we meet girls my friend closes and it seems like me and my other friend close that one girl and we just leave.

Pros

I taught my friend a shit load in 30 mins and hopefully if we go out tonight he can do his own shit

Cons

Pretty much everything else, I got carded and ID swapped, wdf right!

I couldn't even chat up that object because this guy was on my back and the way I opened was
Hey, I am trying to approach as many people to help my friend get over his social anxiety.

Used a shit opener, usually I am direct, but this time I was shit.

No close

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

HB: "I'm a bitch you don't want to talk to me"

PUA: "Oh really? Perfect then you're so not my type....by the way are your nails real?? Oh....they're still nice...what was I talking about? Oh yeah..!" and talk about your subject

Disqualify..it works all the time!

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Awesome advice, was just gonna post I got a girls number from my class and we going out tonight so I am still good but thats day game. I need mad work on night game, hopefully I can get some numbers and kclose this chick at the same time.

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

If you want results in nightgame you should stick to a model that you think it suits you and go step by step...dont overcomplicate things and stick to one aspect till you get it right. But learn the model well though! I don't know why but writing specific goals gives you a hell lot of more results than if you just say them in your head..I guess that's just how or brain works

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Yo how long you talk to a chick before you # close or k-close, thats my biggest problem in night game I think I rush it a bit quick and not as smooth as I should. I def gonna go with a mix of MM and Natural/direct.

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

Yeah I'm doing MM/natural..it works wonders for me. This is a common problem to a lot of guys learning pick up. They ask for the number after just building attraction and after that they wonder why are they getting flakes. You have to build some level of comfort and rapport with the girl...so I'd say this. For NC...like at least 10-15min man..I know it sounds a lot...but this is how it goes most of the time if you dont want flakes. You have to find enough time to make sure you have attraction and comfort going on...6-7 min is really not enough. Some of my wings are getting flakes all the time and they ask me how come I never have that problem. Easy answer: I always build rapport in my C1 location..that way when I text her my girl looks at the cell and has a certain amount of connection with me..wether if you just build attraction she's going to have buyer's remorse thinking: what the hell I don't even know this guy...well yeah he talks to me just for sex...like all the other guys..next please. I seriously recommend understanding the A1 A2 A3 and C1 phase..read the venutian arts handbook..all the pieces of this model make perfect sense..it's like 1+1=2...Anyway..hope I helped!

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I have read it and will use it for sure. I usually like to do 6-7 mins haha I just hate talking about them lol I have an ego problem I love it being about me... jk, but seriously

15 mins sounds good I will work for more of that from now on thanks bro

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

By the way...with my last HB..the one from the Lay Report...I did 25min of game before kiss closing mate..it was just solid game..I even waited 10-12 minutes before I even gave her an IOI..so you see..don't need to rush things out! Especially if you have IOI's from the girl..make her work a little bif for you!

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You fucking tease haha fucking beautiful, alright I guess I will slow it down, I was just alway used to 15 mins chat max and already hooking up with them.

Just wondering in your system.

Open --> What you usually say here --> comfort (how you know each other, what your major/do living, what did you want to be, etc...) --> close

I would normally go open --> situational comedy and make light laughter --> so fourth.

(I feel like I am comparing notes for my next exam ahaha)

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

I do the M3 Model as structure

A1: Usually I'll open the sit indirectly (opinion opener)

A2: I'm now spotting for IOI's...negging the target and DHV'ing my self to her friends and her. DHV is not only stories with DHV spikes..negging is a DHV because you do not telegraph interest..not leaning in is a DHV. When I notice some serious IOI's..I'm now seeking for qualification from her (A3)

A3: I'm giving hoops of compliance and qualification to see what's her level of interest towards me. If she doesn't want to answer a simple question as "Are you passionate?" It means I don't have much attraction going on so back in A2...build more attraction than re-ask another qualifing question. When she qualifies her self to you..you are sure she's attracted to you or else she wouldn't give a shit.

C1: Now before starting A3 or in A3 I'm isolating and if she qualifies herself to me..it means she's attracted so I know I finished my A1-A2-A3 sequence. So now it's time to turn the cocky attitude off and build rapport. The most important game is played in comfort. So now you're just talking and building a connection. In C1 you kiss close or number close which are both comfort building elements. Kissing should not be to get her aroused..you always are the first to release from the kiss and when you number close you should build a time bridge so she has a reason to give you her number

Hope I helped!

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A new mentor is born
PUA: Klevelend & Myself
Location: Mall

Objective: Help my friend with AA and teach him a fuck load

So today was great, I really discovered I had no AA I spoke to every single female that was not with her mom. I even and I no is messed up, spoke with some younger females, but that was simply to prove a point to my friend. He had actually opened up at least 10-15 sets, and I made him tell me the color of each persons eye to ensure he was holding at least minimal eye contact.

Whilst there we ran into two female friends of mine, we chatted, I walked to my favorite store with them, then left them. I asked them if they would like to grab a drink later that and they agreed. We had a date now, perfect for my friend to practice it. Two girls Two guys, yay I am awesome friend haha.

Well the best store I went to had these two cute clerks. Now that I think about it they were awfully young, but we were there for a good 15 mins, and my friend was actually talking to one. Occasionally I would have to intervene to keep it going, but we all start somewhere. I was speaking to this gorgeous HB9, we were chatting, decent eye contact, she was fairly shy, she was giving minor IOI but at the same time a bit reluctant. I should have ignored my friend and just spoken to her and gotten her number and make a date. She was very fucking cute. I luckily found out when she works by asking the other chick and will one time in the future return and try and get that number.

For the rest of the day I approached married couples, just couples, random chicks, girls alone, girls not alone, a lot of young chicks who look older from far away or behind. Pretty much a fuck load of girls.

Worst part of the day, I was about to get a girls number and two guys (and valentyn I owe you an apology) come up, I immediately invite them to the conversation, and its all good. One of the guys gets what I am fucking doing and bounces, AFC or not, you are going to a beautiful PUA heaven one day. The other was the chicks ex-boyfriend, obviously jealous ass fuck, and started grabbing her, I just brushed him off. I was about to get her number when he was like what you doing, then she is like yea your a complete stranger blah blah blah. I tried to recover with that is exactly why I would love to get to know you blah blah blah... The best thing that douche said was you should just get her facebook. FUCK that, I took her hand shook it for a long ass time, and said good bye.

Pros & Cons

-I really think I helped my friend out for his first day of game. He has never done this before and it made me feel really good that I can help somebody. Hopefully it will help me out as well. He gives me a lot of confidence because of me being an asshole and needing to be better


-I had maybe 1 AA when I was in barnes and nobles, very cute girl sitting and reading, I saw a friend so I came over, thats how I noticed her. I then started to just make jokes, there were other guys around me and I got them involved but she was just not looking, had she looked up I know I could have gotten things going. I had like 5 random people just laughing at my jokes, I blame myself entirely. If I wasn't a lil douche I would have even been, listen guys it was great to chat but there is a really cute girl sitting right here I have to say hi. I will live but yea

-I did not care age, relationship, anything I approached everyone who was in my radius, I saw a guy kiss a girl and I still approached just to show my friend, fuck everything just have fun. I had a nice chat about comic con, I have no idea what it is besides the obvious, and I love community and it was at the San Diego one, and then we talked about that.

-I can talk about anything. Seriously, I asked my friend to give me a topic, my favorite was Kayak, I walked into a candle store when he said this. I went to the lady (who might I add was not attractive at all such a great convo gone to waste) I'm going on a kayak trip and need some kind of lotion that will make me smell fucking amazing, even if I am in the water and shit. For all those reading this whom are intelligent, you must have realized no one can find that shit in a candle store, after she gave me some dumb response, I looked around and was like fuck I am in the wrong store. So I followed with, I have no interest in buying anything, I want you to know that, I really... puase.... just have to go to the bathroom I just drank a large water from starbucks, and well gotta do my thing. Smiled and waited for answer. I did that last thing again cause this dumb bitch had no idea, I mean she works at the mall where the fuck does she pee?

Well thats all I can think of now.

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

Haha fun report to read! It's great that you are capable of saying anything in day game..my AA during the day is a lot bigger than night game. Starting next week I'll train with a really good guy I know I'll learn a lot from this guy he's serious and has major skills!

I know it sucks when the CB ruin your set man..I had that 5 times in a row in 2 nights when the girl was feeling me..it made me so damn pissed! I think maybe in your case you coud've done what AFC Adam calls Frame Changing. Now she told you "Yeah you're a complete stranger"..now your response on this last sentence can get you the number or not.

Her frame: you're a complete stranger and I'm not sure if I want to get to know you

Your frame: I know I have a lot to offer I just want to get your fucking number so we get to know eachother

Now there are 4 ways of making your frame = hers. If you manage to do this she will feel a great connection and will definately increase your chances in getting that number. I field tested this more than one time and it works all the time!

One of the 4 ways is called Frame Transformation. Basically, you dont disagree when she gives you this kind of shit-test..you agree on what she's saying but you create a future event that connects your frames. I know it's technical but I'll give you an example

Your frame : I'm a PUA and I sleep with a lot of girls..I want to fuck you

Her frame: You're a PUA and I seen you with multiple women..I don't like that kind of guy

Now a frame transformation will be this: "You're right..I do sleep with a lot of women..but it's because I never find the right girl that can treat me right. I hope one day I will"

Do you see how that line can change her entire perception of you?? A frame is someone's point of view or perception on a situation. You change that frame by agreeing with what they say but adding more information so that they understand the picture better

In your case you coud've said something like: "I know I'm a complete stranger..we just met like 10 min ago yet there's something interesting about you..I just know I woud've kicked myself in the ass this night if I didn't had you in my contacts" (the I woud've kicked myself in the ass this night is your future event that connects both frames)

It's a lot better than sayying something like: "No I'm not a stranger please give me your number"

Believe me this is really good stuff..frame changing creates a great connection and it's great for building rapport with no flakes! I was doing it before without realising it and it's tested so many times in field! Try it out!

I know it's theoretical and all that but if you understand what I'm saying and use it you'l see the power it can have!

I'm proud you didn't took her facebook adress..fuck that!

Keep up the good work!

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That was actually the best description of frame control and shit regarding frames, you wouldnt believe how many times I asked someone to define it and they give some bs answer.

Anything else you got on frames, to be honest I have no idea what it really means. I just know I have a good one from others.

Great post though will 100% keep it in mind, love the twist hee hee, I feel like a puppet master

Also saying I am not a stranger shows neediness so good point. I didnt say that I actually agreed to her and said thats why we need to spend tme so we can get to know each other. But yours is far better Just got to think like that now. Well I am off to bed have business meeting tomorrow!

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

Here is the video..it's long but it's gold..he explains how to close and how frame changing can get you laid a lot. Also how he used frame changing to get better one nights! He also tells some funny stories he experienced it's really nice to watch! Enjoy!

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At what point is the frame control segment, I have seen this before I believe I rather not watch all 1hr 50 mins for one segment

Thanks mate for the vid I appreciate it

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Best of Luck
-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html