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Date: 17 december 2011

STYLE LIFE CHALLENGE - DAY 2


So the 2nd day of the challenge me and Gamon went to a mall.. the mission was to open 5 sets and this time.. to make intense eye contact and after to write down the color of our target's eyes. 4 of mine were brown and 1 HB had green eyes. The objective of this mission is to once again become eased with approching and keeping eye contact, you can approach anyone you want but we decided to approach only HB's

Important points

* In day game, when you walk and your target walks towards you (you two don't walk in the same way)... when you stop them.. it looks like you want something from them or that you're trying to hit on them. Targets seemed alianeted by our approach because we needed to stop them from going to their destination

* Walking in the same path with your target and opening over the shoulder has much more great results

* My last set hooked really easily...I gave a false time constraint and after I did.. she immediately re-engaged me

* It's really important to project a loud voice so that your target can hear you and that also shows a lot of confidence

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SARGING ALONE


Ok so I just came back from a night where I sarged alone. I went with my buddy and his girlfriend because none of my wings could come (fuck man so pissed :x). Here's the thing.. I didn't want to follow them everywhere the guy wants his time with his girlfriend so I fucking tried sarging all night alone. Wow man.. I don't know what to say.. your value is just realllly low when you do this. I just had nobody to talk to..nobody to dance with or nobody to just even interact. I had some approach invitations like big IOI's from girls.. but after a while that sets realized I had no friends, my value just went down in a black pit. I couldn't work my way of saying something, I just felt so self conscious of the fact that I was alone. The funny part is I didn't have AA.. I wasnt stressed of opening I just felt like a guy who has no social circle and I also felt like a total loser..lol what can I say..you can only learn from this stuff and I learned I'm not going alone anymore..it's not the first time I did this and it's just really not usefull.. respect if some of you managed to close while being alone in a club..peace out guys!

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Dude went alone last night as well it was the exact same. I would open up sets talk for 5 mins, but then have like nothing more to go with, it's very difficult but helps. I actually got this HB5-6 interested in me, I was just talking to her to build some value cause she recognized me (now that I think about it I did this 2 or three times)... time for a journal entry...

Don't give up on solo nights its harder but I want to master it as well...

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First off man, I love your journal, some great stories and lots of useful information. I just wanna comment on your most recent post about going out alone. Most of my friends are either hardcore academics and not interested in going out or in commited relationships and are boring and want to stay home and watch movies so I ALWAYS go out by myself. The first few times, I was very self concious and didnt like it but like most things the more you do it the more you get comfortable with it. In fact I've been actively trying to pick up women for 6 months now, always going out alone, and now it would seem weird to go out with other people, since I'm used to being independent and operating solo. I few things I've figured out is: go to crowded places- lots of people means its easy to lose your friends and I find there is a lot of people who are alone just by virtue of being lost. If you consistently go to the same place it also helps as you might develop casual relationships with the staff and some of the usuals, I really like this because these people are people you can chat and banter with for a few minutes and then leave and they wont get in your way for the rest of the night. Also, I find having a big smile helps, one thing I've noticed is if I sit alone at a bar with a big smile I get opened tonnes, by both guys and girls and you can kind of fish instead of hunt. One other thing that I read when I first started going out alone that really helped was this: you would go out to a coffee shop alone so why not go to a bar alone. For some reason I found that logic very convincing and I instantly felt more comfortable. In fact when I first went out alone and someboy I was talking to would ask me if I was alone I would lie and just say "nah I lost my friends" but now I go with it "yup my friends are lame so I just came alone." I think this really portrays confidence, lots of people have responded to me with things like "wow I defidently dont have the guts to go to a bar alone" I think its a portrayal of independence and self confidence.


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First off man, I love your journal, some great stories and lots of useful information. I just wanna comment on your most recent post about going out alone. Most of my friends are either hardcore academics and not interested in going out or in commited relationships and are boring and want to stay home and watch movies so I ALWAYS go out by myself.
Great stuff man! Really.. I congratulate you for having the guts to go out training your skills for 6 months alone! I realized alone really pushes your fucking limits on a hole different scale. You made me change my mind.. I'll definately go again after I gain a little bit of experience. And thanks for your tips and for your comment..I appreciate if my journal helps you. I'm putting a lot of nice things to say and what works/what doesn't. Keep in touch!

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STYLE LIFE CHALLENGE - DAY 3


So this day.. my mission was to call 3 random people from the phone book and ask them for movie recommendations. You have to give a root so they answer your question but the mission is really easy..things are going to get more difficult now

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SYLE LIFE CHALLENGE - DAY 4


This was our first day in doing DayGame so this is like a Field Report because me and Froggy pushed the furthest we can. From this day on.. things are starting to get a little bit harder with each challenge. So today's challenge was to ask 3 HB's any suggestions for a nice men's clothing store. We did each 5-6 approaches and we didn't stop at the opener..we tried stacking forward and see where we can take it.

My best set

I open this reallyyy cute girl man wow she's so my type..she was working but she had no clients. So I go in with "Hey me and my friend are not from around here.. we're looking for some really nice men's clothing store. We want to buy some clothes..can you give us your opinion?" HB starts to suck a lolypop in her mouth checking me out and than she engaged me giving several stores where I could go than she says something like: "Um...clothes like your style??" *then she looks me up from the bottom to the head* "You should go over there" (IOI) She came really close to me I could kino her really good..I got multiple IOI's and she started really twisting her fucking lolypop in her mouth I'm like fuckkkk mannn what a blow job this girl would give :shock:. I didn't know what to say though.. didn't multiple thread :?


Froggy's best set

Froggy bumps without doing on purpose in a 2 set and after that he immediately opens. The HB's stopped their walk and laughed along with his joke. He continued the conversation and I jumped in during a moment where he was hesitating to say something. We convinced these 2 girls to go with us in a store and show us where is the men's clothing. So we walk with them and a HB tells me: "Do you have 2$ I should be paid for helping you guys".. I heard: "Do you have 2$ I really need them"... if I woud've heard what she really said I would've went in with: "Please buy me a drink before you hit on me" but I said another neg I don't even remember lol.. we were still glad they took their time to show us what we wanted :)

My worst set

Wow I got owned in the ass on this one. She was walking towards me and I go: Hey I need a female opin... *she walks by than stops* than Froggy blocks me without doing on purpose so I need to take a step to my left to engage her.. I take a big step than say a word and she says: No and leaves LOL!!! :lol: Imeaditely me and Froggy started laughing..funny shit

* There's also one set that I negged the target with the "your nails look fake are they real"

* 3 SECOND RULE is the most important element...it's GOLD..it's the first thing you should practice getting good at


I'm glad we didn't just make the challenge but pushed our comfort zone.. peace out!

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STYLE LIFE CHALLENGE - DAY 5


This mission is just a lot of feedback on looks and how to be well groomed. I'm already great in that section so on to the next!

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Date: 20 december 2011

Members: Valentyn, T_Rex & Froggy

Location: Diable Vert (NOISY NIGHTCLUB-BAR)


GAINING EXPERIENCE & PUSHING THE LIMITS

Wow..just came back from an astonishing night. So many fucking opportunities to close!! Damn...I could've at least number cloes 3-4 HB's...I'll get to why I didn't in a moment. I just want to give a shotout to my wings man..unbelieavble shit.. we opened sooo many sets. I opened once again 8 SETS!! Opening was my biggest sticking point and I'm glad I'm almost through with it. I don't know where to start..too many stuff we did..but I'll start with the first set we opened after 5 min that we entered the field

T_Rex opens over the shoulder with a really great opener: "Guys we need an opinion..which came first? The egg or the chicken??" The noise is too loud so his obstacle is looking bored. I immediately charge and explain to her the same opener he just used. We got them hooked really fast..and T_Rex did a nice neg which implied she had fake hair. We ejected to soon but we demonstrated a wiligness to walk away. Later in the night.. these 2 girls just always ran in to us and one time one of the girls pushes the other one in us.. I'm like "Wow guys can you please stop following us? Jeeez..." They laughed on cue and we didn't had time to re-engage...we looked for them but we couldn't find them any more.. the place was sooo crowded I just lost all my targets like this.

After this.. we lock in at a bar and a 3 set past near us..T_Rex engages because he's the one that can open over the shoulder. He immediately multiple threads and I start talking to my target.. my perfect type..small really cute girll wow.. she started giving me a lot of IOI's. I didn the natural hair color neg/DHV

V: "Is that your natural hair color?"
HB: "Yeah it is"
V: "Oh really? I thought it wasn't...anyway you're hair still nice :) "

I asked for her name and I did the 60 year challenge handshake.. then I negged her for not being polite

V: "Introduce me to your friends it's the polite thing to do"
*Hb introduces me*

Then.. I lock in with her.. I'm leaning back and I'm sitting down.. she's not and she engages me touching her hair each time she talks (IOI). She asks me what's my nationality (IOI) and I then give her a small hoop for compliance to see what's her level of interest
V: Guess
HB *complying* : Hmm....italian??
V: Haha close.. romanian

Here's the thing man.. at this point I shoud've fucking ISOLATED. Damn.. we eventually just said like allright see you later but my mistake.. not enough experience with isolating so my calibration in it isn't impressive. So I told my self I would re-approach later on and close. I didn't see her again.. too many people..
:x :x :x

We're locking in then I see a 2 set behind me. After 3 sec I engage with the cheating girlfriend opener. The obstacle gets jealous because she couldn't hear..the music was too loud so she hugs her friend and tells me.. do you think she's pretty? I go: ahhhhh nott bad you know. They made a smile/laugh/IOD?? and then left. I don't give a shit bitches.. I didn't even look affected at all. I should've went in with Mystery's gambit which goes like: Well.. you're not really my type you look like too much of a nice girl for me...I think that guy over there looks better for you"

We're walking and there isn't much space between a wall and the people and 4 HB's in line come towards me. I put my self in front of them then the 1st one tries to move past me to the left... I go to her left.. she goes to the right I go to her right not letting them pass. They laughed and when they passed near me I spot a HB in a red shirt and I engage:
V: "Hey really nice shirt! "
HB: "Aww thanks!"
V: "I just saw it on another girl like 2 min ago" :lol: - Mystery
HB: "Oh it must've been me"

*Because the set was walking I didn't want to follow or else I would lose value.. I wanted re-approach later in the night but fuck my life. I never saw a place so crowded...lost her too*

I'm locking in with my boy T_Rex..I see a beautifullll 8.5-9 of a girl standing near me. I go to T : " Dude I want to make a direct approach"

So here's what I did which I think it's brilliant!

I'm talking with T_Rex so I look occupied then turn my head to my right where she was..now I make a quick glance like I just noticed her and said loud: "Oh damn..I just noticed you..you're really cute!" Boom..big smile of her but she had a bitch shield. So I immediately gave a non verbal FTC with my body.. turning also my head away from her. To my surprise.. Mystery material is once again gold.. she re-engages me. I immediately neg because she was hot. I negged with is your hair real it looks like a wig. She took it well. Disqualification finished..now to DHV. I started the cheating girlfriend gambit and when she told me that she didn't think kissing is cheating I said:" OH well me and you think differently...I don't think we would get along" BOOM! After this neg.. bitch shield lowered down and bam she started giving IOI's. She immediately went with...where you from? (IOI) Do you live in montreal? (IOI) Then she says:
HB: "What's your age?"
V: "Guess"
HB: "Ummm..20?"
V: "Yep..right on top!"
V: "You look like 21.."
HB: "Nah 24"
Damn ok... so at this moment her boyfriend comes in the picture..outch..didn't know what to do..just ejected... fuck man anyway great gaming. SO glad I did a direct approach it just boosts your confidence a lot! Plus the girl was hot so it took some balls to do that

I'm once again locking in and I spot a blonde HB 8.. she looked me for fucking 5 sec...then looked down..then I look away. When I look at her again she again stares at me.. fuck that I have to open this slut. I position my self with great body language near her set and Froggy opened for me with the gay opener. Her obstacle started engaging me.. I found out she was my target's cousin. Imediately I go see my target and she started to give IOI's right on top. She asked for my name (IOI) I shook her hand 60 year challenge way.. for like 20 fucking seconds.. I didn't let go until she did. My buddy T_Rex DHV'd me saying I'm almost a profesional soccer player.. which isn't actually false.. and this is my identity I've build my DHV stories with. I get in to more material. I do the natural hair color.. I neg her on her nails and things are starting to get interesting. A lot of kino. I ask her what nationality she is and she says french and something. Then i DHV: "Ah my last girlfriend was french..french girls are beautifull (Rewarding her for her efforts and the negs I did on her + great pre-selection spike) Moment to isolate.. I waited 5 sec before making the move and 3 big AMOG's come in and ruin the set.... :x :x :x

These were my important interactions.. I don't remember the other ones. But I was feeling really good inside. No AA what so fucking ever..this feeling rules!


OVERALL

Guys.. I need to improve calibration which is only improved with experience. I shou've isolated a little bit faster and wow I could've at least got 2 number closes today. But the point is.. I tried a lot of new material that I never used before..gain some more approaches under my belt.. and I'm glad I'm handling my anxiety really well!

POSITIVE

- Approached 8 sets
- Approached with a direct opener
- Didn't show importance when being rejected
- Tried a lot of new gambits
- Body language flawless
- DHV all the time
- My wings opened a lot also.. they at least opened 4 sets each!!!

NEGATIVE

- Didn't close any target...I learned my lesson though

That's it for the negative.. I did my job well..pushed my limits and had fun. I really enjoyed this night. Great time with you guys! Feel free to post some constructive comments!

Direct Opener : "Hey I really need to tell you something but don't take this the wrong way" *Wait like 5 sec* "I think you're really beautifull/cute/sexy" all the direct ways of approaching. I write this down because I want to field test it in my next sarging night.

* I'm going to continue the style life challenge I've just been busy lately shopping for holiday gifts but field reports coming really soon!

Peace out!!

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epic first opener we used...

T_Rex: Hey, me and my friends were debating, what comes first the egg or the chicken!?

haha, good night V

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T_Rex: Hey, me and my friends were debating, what comes first the egg or the chicken!?

haha, good night V
HAHAHA! Boy that was a really good one man! Great stuff from you! I'm definately going to use that again! :lol:

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keep the stuff rolling.
I have to thank you man, you teach me so many stuff.

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keep the stuff rolling.
I have to thank you man, you teach me so many stuff.
I'm glad I help and I like the fact that you actually go out of your comfort zone. I would like to meet other people like you who are interested in pick up in Montreal. Hope you can still come tomorrow sarging night...we're going to do some major damage downtown! 8)

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keep the stuff rolling.
I have to thank you man, you teach me so many stuff.
I'm glad I help and I like the fact that you actually go out of your comfort zone. I would like to meet other people like you who are interested in pick up in Montreal. Hope you can still come tomorrow sarging night...we're going to do some major damage downtown! 8)
When I come up you will definitely see someone who has no concern for other people point of view. Haha seriously I play a game called Point and Topic. Give me a topic and point I will do it.

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GAME BREAKDOWN


Ok so I just lost the guy with who I was doing the 30 day challenge..gave up after day 5...I have to find someone else because I don't like doing day game alone for the moment. I was somehow sure this was going to happen during the challenge but I didn't thought this early..

Anyway, I think I have a much better understanding of A1 A2 and A3 and now I want to focus on C1 and closing my targets. I could number close each field night almost 2 HB's but I would lose them in the crowd or I would get cockblocked. So from now on my goal is to isolate really fast, build some comfort and close without getting flakes!

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