i love going out and having suit night. especially beeing in montana where theres only maybe 10 bars in this "city" no one ever sees people lookin fresh in a suit out here sept for when me and my boys but em out.
i say go for it, its a blast. just make sure you hit up the dry cleaners the next day. lol

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A suit might be overkill depending on your location and you can come off as trying too hard. No matter how stylish you think you are, women will always have better fashion sense. For instance, women look terrific in evening gowns, but they don't wear them to the club. And if you saw a woman that did, you might think something was wrong with her. They dress appropriate for the occasion and always look great doing it. I recommend you do the same. A dark blue blazer and jeans is always a classic look. Get Detail's Mens Style Manual. There's a lot of great style ideas and advice for every occasion. And nothing too trendy either, it tends to be tacky.

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Or I might be curious enough about who she is to just walk right on over and ask her. Food for thought.

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Don't let the suit wear you bro. Sounds like a confidence issue to me. What you wear should not change how hard you try. I love looking fresh, I don't care if I'm overdressed anymore.

If you see a guy at fast food grabbing lunch and he is wearing a suit you don't look down on it. If you see a guy in a grocery store you don't think man he is overdressed. Those are 2 of the least formal places you can go, people go to those places in their pajamas.

I argued in this very thread I started against wearing suits because of over dressing but honestly how bad is it to look too good? Do you think you go to a bar or club and a girl thinks "ew that guy has no style he is wearing a suit?" Or do you think perhaps that girl is thinking "that guy looks good, he is wearing a suit?"

Just saying your attitude and body language are what carry you not "how hard you try" not you dressing to nice. It's one thing to dress like a hobo, but as long as you have style and originality who cares. I refuse to wear just a blazer and jeans, it is a tool move. I want to stand out not fit in. One major thing about the most attractive person in any room is they always stand out.

I'm not a trend follower, I'm a trendsetter. I don't read books to find style, I look at what is dope and original, I look at what makes me me. Fitting in is overrated.

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Outside the debate of whether you wear a suit or not. What are points where you should look for when buying a well-fitting suit?

And what differences are there with a gala-suit? I have one next week but really don't know what to look for...

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A well-fitted suit will make you more "higher value" and will give and edge with hotter women.

I wore a suit since i was 20 to 22 in clubs and I was pulling women in minutes , they respect the "dom archetype".

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I don't know whether he is still around but this guy wrote up a thread about suits.

pick-a-suit-that-fits-well-vt126478.html

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thank you, that's very usefull!

I see it as dressing according to a certain style attracts women from that style, or from those who want to be part of that lifestyle. So if you dress goth, you'll get more attention from goth girls, go as a cowboy, get some looks from country & western chicks.

The difference with a suit is that it may also convey financial or "nice harmless guy" status, which in some circles may work for an approach. And it could have a novelty factor since most guys rarely wear suits anymore. The danger is it can also make you look like you're trying too hard, or that you are overdressed because you are oblivious to social protocol.

As a business professional, where a dress shirt & slacks are now considered formal wear, I got as many looks in that as I did in a suit. Honestly, I think as long as a guy takes some pride in his appearance and exercises some forethought & care in picking out his wardrobe, that will get you looks and IOIs no matter what particular style you choose to dress in.

Again I say "how hard you try" is in your body language. That means the suit is wearing you. I dance around joke around, I'm the same person in a suit as I am out of a suit. The suit gets me positive attention, and the body language makes me far more intriguing. I show comfort and have fun with my body language.

My attitude: I'm not oblivious to social protocol, I'm above it. I'm "The Man."

It sounds arrogant but what I mean by this is no one changes my frame but me. I have the choice, why should I give everyone that power over me?

If anyone ever asks me why I'm overdressed my response is something joking like:
"Are you saying I don't look handsome?"
"Fitting in is overrated, I tried it once."
"I prefer to set trends, not follow them."

I don't care if they feel I'm over dressed, it doesn't change how I feel. If you have to fit in that is on you. I hate it, I don't want to be just another bee in the colony.

Your style should attract the type of women you are after, however suits seem to not have one single style. That is what is brilliant about them you blanket all of them and you look good. Suit represents value on a subconscious value to almost everyone, why not use it.

Your comfort level evokes a comfort level with them, if you are comfortable with it they are. If however you are uncomfortable they will be uncomfortable pretty simple.

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Evening growns is not suitable comparison. They are only special occasion dresses while suits can simply be work related outfit. Like you came to the bar out of your work. Suits are way more casual for men than evening growns for women.

Where a full suit might be over dressed, to I love to wear nice shoe's, jeans and the colbert of the suit. Mostly with a dressed shirt, but sometimes also with a polo or t-shirt. I do change the colbert to a sports jacket if the colbert is way to dressed up for the venue.

Depending on the venue, you can change the combinations.

ooh btw, I usually do wear a shawl/scarf loose around my neck.

A full suit, esp during the weekend doesn't work in most clubs in my experience.

I suppose everything is going to be geographical, I am still all about the suit. If I had enough suits I'd wear them pretty daily.

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I think all of the suit hating comes down to a lack of understanding. Being a strong advocate of suits and formal dress myself, here's what I have to say.

First is fit. People have said it before, but the fit of the suit says a lot about you. For example, the baggy suit fit says, "I bought this for work and didn't have anything better to wear out tonight." The slim or tailored fit for a suit says, "I'm confident in myself and in my body."

Next is understanding the suit. Some have said that they feel that a suit decreases their individuality. I couldn't disagree more. People need to educate themselves on what a suit is and what it means. I'm not talking about the whole suit, I'm talking about the different parts. Once you understand different stitching, different lapels, different cuffs, different back slits, different buttons, different materials, different linings, different cuts, you begin to understand that there is a lot to suits that most people miss. Girls will pick up on these details better than most guys, so if you want to send the right message, then you need to know what message you're sending.

Colours. I would agree that a black suit is too formal for a club (unless done really well with the right clash), but other colour suits can say different things. Example, what if I wore my blue sharkskin suit out? No one would think I'm too formal for anything -- in fact I would be under-dressed for some nicer clubs. I would pick my colour depending on my mood and the type of club that I'm going to.

Selection. A lot of people have complained that suits are too expensive, however, as a student, I still disagree. You can get decent custom tailored suits online or from second-hand stores. My favourite jacket was from a second-hand store in Utah. It was custom tailored for someone with a nearly identical body type as me and I wear it all the time. Also, it was $6.

Shoes. Pay attention to what shoes you're wearing with an outfit. You can pull of simple sneakers with the right suit and that really brings down the formality.

But even if. . . My first time wearing a suit out was a suit disaster. The jacket was too short and too broad at the shoulders, the shirt was stripped and so was the tie, I had on slacks that were too short and too tight and that didn't quite match the shirt and my shoes nearly had the soles worn off. (These were the days before I understood clothing.) The suit was also a really deep black, like funeral black. I still got compliments. I had girls hitting on me on the metro and Alpha males coming up to talk to me. Sure I was more confident in a suit (I still get more confident when I 'suit up'), but people really do notice your dress.

Just want to BUMP this thread! See if maybe we can get some suit talk going again.

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