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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:42 am 
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So... there's three girls who have said yes to getting coffee with me. Keep in mind I've never gotten this far before. So this is new to me.
Brunette Coworker Girl
Chinese Classmate Girl
Korean Classmate Girl

Brunette Coworker Girl, I've known her for like 5 months now. We were both interns but now the internship is over. I texted her "Let's get coffee so we can catch up" and she said sure. We're getting together on Friday after she gets out of class. I was thinking about waiting somewhere nearby her school so when she's done I can pick her up immediately. Is that too AFC of me? I feel like that's an AFC move.

Chinese Classmate Girl
This girl I met when we were standing in line for something in class and she was in front of me. And we talked and I got her number from when I suggested to her we should get together and study. Then one day I texted her saying I got pumpkin spice from starbucks and we got into a conversation about coffee. Then I asked her if she wanted to get coffee sometime? She said sure. I suggested this weekend but she said she's not sure if she can she will let me know.

Korean Classmate Girl
I met this girl through a mutual friend who had a class with her. The mutual friend and I play dodgeball together and I invited the Korean girl. She said sure. I picked her up and we went and played dodgeball. We talked some in the car. I asked if she had a boyfriend. She said no. Then somehow the conversation got to what kind of girls I like. And I replied with I like nice girls. Are you a nice girl? She said yes. I messed up here and forgot to add this part. I should've asked her Oh you're a nice girl? How are you a nice girl? You should show me. But I'll try to save that for when we get coffee I guess.

So like I'm worried about what to talk about when we get coffee. What to say. How to get IOIs and maybe kiss close. Any thoughts?


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Brunette:

Yeah,waiting for her would be an AFC move. Some girls consider it sweet and IoIish but either way you kinda give her power by doing that.

Chinesse:

Seems you don't really know her well. You should plan this one out. Always know what to say next , don;t let the 'awkward silence' slip in.

Korean:

She might like you. Build atraction with her , don;t forget about nice girl line.


If you're really scared about what to say and all that just plan it out and know your plan real good. You can aproach the exact same subjects with all 3 of them if you wanna go safe.

I would advise against picking them up. Just meet at the coffee shop. Like I said , offering to pick up while might be cute , might also show more intrest than you should and you lose power.


Best of luck. Hit us back with feedback after yo dates a'right ?


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For sure. I'm leaving now for Brunette girl. I'll update later.


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So like yah... did not go as planned.. She could not get out of my car fast enough. No hug. Just a goodbye. I would like to analyze what all happened because I feel like if I admit what went wrong I can learn from it rather than just ignore it and move on.

So it started with me picking her up. I had texted some friends before picking her up and found some coffee shops nearby where she lived that we could go to. However, once we got around to talking a bit she decided she was hungry. As I'm typing this, I realize she was totally in control. And it started with me asking her if she was hungry. Hm... so we drive around for a few minutes and we're trying to decide what to eat. Again I let her be in control and decide what to eat. She decided on pho.

So we go to a close pho restaurant that I know of and we sit down and order. Someone really needs to tell me directly where I can find conversation material. Like give me a link that says say this, this and this. Because conversation was all over the place and I had no guidance at all. From how I was doing in school to how she was doing in school to other girls to other guys. It was terrible. So dinner finished and she had someone else she was meeting. She even invited me to join them. At first I said sure even though I was meeting another friend. I dont know why. That part was awful too. But thankfully I came to my senses as I was driving that I should be doing what I want to do. And I don't want to spend anymore time with you. So I was just like I think I'm going to go home. So I dropped her off. And that was that.

Thoughts? Suggestions for girl number two?


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Did you at least get any vibe of interest from her ?

Anyway , you saw your own mistake of letting her be in total control.Next time be like "Hey I know this great place , let's go x". There must be a place thats your fav.
For example in my city there's this place on the top of a little hill , nice restaurant from where you can see the entire city all around you.At night it's freakin amazing. It's failproof. If she doesn;t like the food there you always have the great view to back you up.

About conversation topics I have no clue. I really like using stuff like :"What do you think about x /y /z." and I try to keep it intresting and a bit sexual at all times(not needy creeping her out sexual , just playful and amusing sexual).Also make jokes from time to time. Not necesarily let me tell you a cool joke , just be sarcastic / ironic in an amusing way at times regardless of the subject of conversation.

Also , if experience is any indicator , women are always and I mean ALWAYS late. So I like to do a little "testing the watter thing' somewhere along the lines of :
"Wow , it's only our first date and you're late". This is great to find out where you stand.Delivery is important tho. I personaly find it very important to know exactly where you are from the very beggining.

Responses " Sorry,I'll make it up to you" are a strong indicator.It's my personal favorite anyway.


Good luck on yo second date bro.


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Ooooh I like that. "Hey I know this great place, let's go X" I'll use that for sure next time.

How do I keep it a bit sexual? I always feel like I cross that line. Actually with that brunette girl, I think I did cross it too many times. She always said that's creepy. I didn't even understand how. For example, she said oh those trees are wrapped like socks. And I just said Oh they're wrapped like socks. And she said that was creepy. I don't even know how. This next one I guess could be creepy. The song from LMFAO - Sexy and I know it was on the radio and I was singing the lyrics when it got to the part where he sings 'Sexy and I know it', I just said "Yah you are." And she said that was creepy. I don't know. Maybe I didn't escalate correctly. How do I even escalate I don't know. Help please!


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It's not always about you bro. I mean , I guess it could be your delivery but really who thinks that saying 'yah you are' is creepy ?

I mean , Im no master but I really don;t think there;s a proper way to escalate to the point where you can make a witty comment like that without her considering it creepy , because she shouldnt consider it creepy from the very beggining ,get me ?

So, like I said , its either your delivery or she might just be "one of those girls' , you know what I mean ?


Anyway ,from my experience there are some girls that me and my friends like to call "COs" as in creeped out. They are that type that takes everything personal , cant take a joke , are pretty much creeped out by everything around them.You know , the girls who think that you asking her to grab some coffe ,in her mind it means you wanna sleep with her.


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Okay new update. I'm getting coffee with Korean girl this afternoon. Then afterwards we're going to a party sort of thing. It's not really a party. More of a social gathering. But we're getting together beforehand and I guess go together. Only problem is I don't drink coffee and she sort of knows. Last time we got coffee was with our other classmate and I got pumpkin spice with soy milk only. It was really good but it was a small and it was $5. Ideally I wouldn't want to spend $5 for something that small but should I just suck it up? Also I was planning to use Gambler, Lovedrop, and Mystery's kino escalation methods in the youtube videos. Like the whole touch while looking away thing and as well as play thumb wars with her. I was just wondering if any has actually tried these things and if they worked?

She gets out of class at 5:30pm and I was going to pick her up around 5:40pm. Party starts at around 6:30pm. It takes about 10minutes to get there.


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Coffee with Korean Girl

I just got back from the party we went to. I'm going to start from the beginning and say every thing I can remember. This date went WAY better than the one with brunette girl.

I leave my place at around 5:20pm. I'm late and it's rush hour. She calls me at around 5:33pm and says she's going to be at the library. I get to school at around 5:45pm. I call her but there's no signal so I park and walk up and find her. As we walk to my car, I ask her how was her class? And she said she it was good and that she was making maps. She talks with an accent so I acted like I didn't hear her. I leaned in closer and just said what??? She said maps again. I leaned in closer and was like what??? Meth?? You're making meth??? You druggie! And pushed her a little. She just laughed and said noooo maps!! And I just let it go. Then we got to my car and we drove into the city.

As we were driving I remember I didn't know what to talk about so I just kept silent for a bit. Then randomly I was like "do you know this area? Where's the closest Starbucks?" And she was like "Umm.... maybe." I just replied "you're supposed to be my navigator, we're supposed to be a team!" I then nudged her arm some. And she said "okay, I think the closest one is this way." Then we took a wrong turn but I knew the area. And I was just like "gosh! we took a wrong turn and it's all your fault!" She just smiled and laughed. Then I turned and she was like "oh, we're here!"

In the Starbucks, we were standing in line and she asked me what I was going to get since I don't drink coffee and she knew from last time we went with our other classmate. I just said "I don't know, what are you getting?" She said "Hazelnut latte" I just listed a bunch of different flavors and asked how they were. A different friend said she liked green tea and I was thinking about getting that but Korean Girl said she didn't like it. I was also thinking about getting a pumpkin spice since I enjoyed it last time but she said she didn't like that either. So I ended up getting a Vanilla Latte with the intention of trying her Hazelnut and her drinking some of mine (I forgot to do this). While we were waiting we stood nearby a sign for pumpkin spice and she said she's never tried it before. To which I replied with "What?? You said you didn't like it! But you've never tried it!" She just laughed and smiled more.

Then we went next door to a grocery store to buy chips for the party. We wandered around the store some and I asked her some what she liked questions. She said she liked everything except green tea and giggled. We wandered into the back where the meat section was and there were some free samples. I walked up, grabbed one, turned around and handed it to her. She took it and I took one for myself. Then we went to the chip isle and I asked her what kind of chips she liked. She pointed to Lays and I said oh okay walked passed them. (I actually probably should've bought those. I like them too and they were on sale. Awkward.) But I kept walking forward and looked for the ones on sale. I got Spicy Doritos and regular Mission chips and was looking for a third kind. Then she pointed out Hint of Jalapenos Tostitos. And there was a coupon on the bag if we bought salsa. So I picked up those. I asked her what kind and she said she's never had salsa before. But she's had Mexican food like Chipotle. So I just got medium. Then we went to the check out. And I brought out money and was looking in my pockets for change when she just brought out another dollar. But I just said no and took out another dollar from my wallet. (I don't know if this was good or bad.) But then we left.

Then we drove over to the party. When we got there there was only two other people. The girl hosting and another girl. I wouldn't really say it was a party. More like just a social gathering. So at the house, she had a dog and cat. When the dog came over to me, I picked her up and put it in front of Korean Girl's face as kind of a joke. (Maybe it wasn't the best joke.) But everyone else laughed. Then while we were standing around, I noticed she would stand a little bit closer to me or stand nearby me. Maybe that's just what I saw and she was doing it unconsciously and it means nothing but that's just what I noticed.

We then moved to sit on stools around the counter and ate chips. (She said she liked the chips and salsa.) She sat next to me. She was being quiet so occasionally, I would bring her into the conversation and asked for her opinion. I would lightly tap her arm with the back of my hand and ask her a question. At one point she poured a drink and didn't like it. She offered me to try it and I did. We just talked and ate chips as three more people joined us. Then we decided to play Apples to Apples.

I moved by myself to the dining room area and was sorting the cards as more people followed me. (I felt like I was leading everyone here.) Then she sat next to me again. While we played, I noticed her leg would touch mine and I would leave it there as she would do the same. For those of you who don't know Apples to Apples, it's a game where you get red cards in your hands that are nouns and you're supposed to use those cards to try to fit the green card which is an adjective. And if the person who's turn it was picked your noun you got the green card. At the end of the game, the green cards are supposed to define you. So when it was my turn, my green card was sweet. I just thought it was kind of cool that she put down supermodels and I picked it. So sweet defined her.

Then some people had to leave and we moved back to the counter where we ate more chips and just talked. She sat next to me again. At one point, I got up and went to get water then returned to my seat next to her. When the host's mom came back home, I initiated a conversation about her work. Korean Girl's feet were against my stool as my hand would occasionally brush her leg. At one point, when my hand was on her leg, I decided to squeeze that part near the knee cap that's kind of a ticklish part. And she tried to push my hand away. I would just smile while continue looking and talking to the mom as if I wasn't doing anything. Then she got up, took my water out of my hand and drank it and handed it back then walked away.

Then it was time to leave. In the car, we talked some more. I forget what the conversation was about but at one point I gave her a light shove and she shoved me back. Then I returned it a second time and she returned a second time. I wasn't sure how to end it because the tension was building. I just said "ok ok". Does anyone have any good recommendations for how to end this? Because I feel like it's the same in the kino escalation video when Mystery gets into a neg war with the girl until the tension builds and he finally just goes "okay get in here" and hugs her. I feel like I can't do that while in the car. Anyone?

Oh I forgot, before we left the host girl was looking up movie times and invited us to see Paranormal Activity 3 tomorrow night after class. I'm a total wuss when it comes to scary movies. Like I will have nightmares so I want to decline but Korean Girl was like "come onnnn you should go" I think I will go... just because of her. But yah.

When we got to her place, I just dropped her off and she just opened the door and said bye and closed it. I didn't get a hug at all but I feel like what I built was good. So my questions now are like how do I get to that hug comfort level? Also I didn't really do anything in the video like I intended to. No thumb wars, no handshakes, no twirling around. Another thing, if we continue like this at what point can I kiss her? I feel like this isn't the right place to be like "do you want to kiss me?" Or maybe it is...? Also if we continue like this at what point are we boyfriend/girlfriend? Or maybe I shouldn't worry about that yet.

Anyways, this post is long enough. Thoughts?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:26 am 
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Dude, that date with the Korean girl sounds WAY better than the Brunette's. i am a newbie with little experience but something I would have tried would be actually asking for a kiss playfully as in, "What, no kiss?" and following it with a mischievous smile. I would hope given the comfort level you seemed to be building with her the worst case scenario would have been a rejection in the form of a laugh and a goodbye. Now keep in mind I'm no expert but it seems like something to try. Anyway, good luck in your future endeavors!


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