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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:21 am 
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A few days ago I went to a coffee shop with a few friends and I saw this really cute 8 that was working there. When I went to order she decided to give me some free things along with the drink (nothing too special, like whip cream and a flavor shot in the coffee) I said thanks and made some really good eye contact. She even smiled.
After chilling on the patio with my friends for a bit, I went inside and asked her for a pen and I wrote down my cell number on a napkin and slid it on the counter, smiled and said "Thanks" and left with my friends. About 10 minutes after she texted me saying "That was really smooth :)" After that we started texting about random things and kinda getting to know each other, such as name, what we're doing SPAM just casual text convo.
The next day she told me to come by sometime when shes working so we could maybe talk after. I said "Il maybe come cuz I have a few things to do tomorrow". I wanted to build tension so the next day while shes on her shift I can text her something along the lines of "Get the coffee ready ;)"
It all worked out well. The next day I went to the coffee shop with 2 friends just for the sake of not going alone, payed for the coffee and again made very good eye contact with her and smiled :)

We went back out on the patio and chilled till they started closing the store.
THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTED

The girl came out (with her co-worker) and started putting the chairs away and I had a few words here and there with the girl. At this point my friends went away so I can be alone with her. She went inside to count the money from the cash register and I thought this was my chance. So I go in and start talking to her:

Me: So what time will you guys be done?
Her: Uggh, I dont know.. My boss gave me so much shit to do (count money and clean)
Me: Do you wanna hang out after ur done?
Her: I cant because my co-worker is driving me home and she doesnt wanna chill after
(I kinda stalled here and tried to keep the convo going)
Me: Well when are you working again? (It was thursday when I asked)
Her: Saturday, but I might not come in since I have a funeral to go to
Me: Oh, well can you chill tomorrow?
Her: Possibly, Il text you
Me: Alright, hope you guys have fun here (sarcastically said)

And I left. I just dont really know if I messed up or should have talked to her more.

Any ideas?? Suggestions?? Comments?? I really wanna see her again but not in the coffee shop cuz shes constantly doing something and It would be really difficult to talk to her.

And should I wait for her to text me or should I text her??


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:33 pm 
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It sounds like you gave her too much power: i.e., "do YOU want to hang out after you're done?" and "Oh, well can you chill tomorrow?"

Of course, she wants to hang out after work and of course she can chill tomorrow, but not if you're the one that's giving her the choice.

I don't think the situation is fucked up just yet.

She said, "possibly, I'll text you." She may, or she may not. Here's the catch. You don't give a fuck. Go out and make plans. If she does text you, respond and don't even address the other day. Also, don't bend your will to meet up with her if she asks you to hang out that night. If she doesn't text you, then it doesn't matter because you're busy anyway.

Your long-term goal should be to give her about 3-4 days minimum of no contact. You've already intrigued her enough for her to give you her number when she texted you back. Now all you need to do is cut off her supply of that intrigue and make her want. You're right about staying out of the coffee shop. If you go back, it may creep her out, or it may not. Play it safe.

When you decide to make contact with her, try it by a phone call this time. Girls like men who call them, not bitches who are only comfortable with texting. If you get a voicemail, leave one like this and be confident about it, "Hey, this is [name]. I had a question to ask you, but I guess you're tied up slinging espresso so I'll just call you back some other time." This way, you maintain control, and don't give her the option of whether to call you back.

Wait a day, or two, and try again. If you get a voicemail again, leave the message even shorter, "It's [name] give me a call back." Here, you're expressed that you're not affected by her not calling you, are not backing off (but also not being creepy,) and that you're asserting dominance.

If you get her on the phone with you, flirt and charm the fuck out of her. Let her know that you've been busy as hell with life, and that you're really needing a signature coffee (whatever you drink), with an extra shot of her. Be charismatic and cheesy about it. She'll dig it. If she doesn't get back to you, then cut your losses and move on, and find another barista to work on. Two phone calls and two voicemails is enough.

Also, if you do get her on the phone with you, reset her two voicemails/two phonecalls rule. Rinse, and repeat.

If you feel compelled to go for a third point of contact (which I would not). I would resort back to texting. This time, neg the shit out of her and say something like, "Haha, playing hard to get already? Damn, I was hoping to avoid that until I took you out, but I guess all that espresso is messing with your head, but I forgive you :D But, I'm free [this date] to go [to this place] and think you should come. I'll call you later about it."

At this point, you don't call, and wait for her to call you.

If she doesn't...

Strike three, batter out.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:54 pm 
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Unfortunately you displayed a lot of neediness here. Everything was smooth until your conversation with her.

Instead of directly asking her out, build some light rapport with her and have fun. Just have fun!

Distract her from her work, or tease her about things. You did give her all the power as was mentioned before. Just assume she wants to hang out. "I'm free next week, we should go grab a drink."

You asked her three times, all on different days. She's busy, are you? She didn't retaliate with a different date.

Don't count on her texting you. Don't text her for a few days, and if nothing comes, then send a light text to test the waters.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:41 pm 
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I am possibly the worst when it comes to short convo. I dont really know what to say..
Any ideas? examples?


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dont know if its too late, but check out this thread about texting:
list-of-text-messages-game-vt21175.html


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