dood really??? reverse psycology or what?



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:28 am 
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hahaa, ok, what the heck is going on in this brawds head? I met her 3 weeks ago, we went on 2 dates, we got down to everything except for sex at my house and she spent the night and says that she really likes me and then I get this email?!?? wtf does it mean??


let me tell you a little about whats gonig on and her. Im going to SF to start college in October and I took a 3 week vacation (which im on now) and I think she's upset because I told her I wanted to take it slow with her and not rush things as im leaving soon and am trying to figure things out as I waan't really planning to find a girlfirend before I left. As far as her, shes really pretty and works full time and goes to school full time and studies psychology (fuck i know) and I hate to say it is really witty. Shes very skeptical when it comes to guys and I had to put in a lot of work to get her to trust me. so wtf does this email mean?? reverse psychology? I donno javascript:emoticon(':?')



Oh my gosh, I totally should have warned you about the skunks....sooo scary lol. And YES I am laughing WITH you for having run away from the skunk, but very smart of you to do that, otherwise you'd probably be stuck taking a tomato bath lol. One night I was walking Ella around that dark field we were by last night....it isn't too well light over there and all of a sudden I make out three little figures on the lawn...Ella and I were walking right past them and she had started to growl. I swear I thought these little things were scary possessed lawn gnomes or something and they started moving towards me and my heart was racing and I started to run away....and a little bit closer to the light I realized they were SKUNKS and they were chasing me!!! Yikes I was so scared!!

Well David, it makes me happy that you can say you like me too:) BUT I also know that you are in a weird place right now, which is a huge part of why I have held back from being physical with you (aside from the fact that I don't like to rush into things). And I am glad you are comfortable with that (ALTHOUGH I do hope that you still WANT me in that sense and are attracted to me!!). I can tell that where you are at right now, you need to put a lot of focus on yourself, and i totally get that...which is why it makes sense that you wouldn't want to start a relationship at such an unstable point in your life.

I am very aware of timing when it comes to relationships. I personally have learned that it is NOT a good idea to start a relationship with someone who is going through big life changing events. Knowing what someone wants is very important to me in a boyfriend, because you can be with someone who is an amazing person, and they may not have any kind of ill intention, but they still hurt you BECAUSE they are a slave to their ever changing mood swings and emotions. How terrible is it to wake up one morning, where nothing has changed but the person your with has. And it really ISN'T anything to do with you, it's them. They just wake up and suddenly realize, you know what today I don't feel like being a boyfriend, or hey, I don't love you anymore, or things are different. It's just an all around sucky situation for both people....because how can you be mad at someone who doesn't even know who they are or what they want from life....if they really are a good person and have a kind heart but just no sense of self....you can only feel bad for them. And maybe sad for what you lost. So while I understand that everyone goes through changes (which I think is a really good thing, no one wants to be stuck in a rut), unless someone knows what their core values are and ultimately what they want in life (though the path by which we get there IS constantly changing), they aren't going to be any good to anybody else. How can you really love someone else, if you don't know and love yourself first?

I like where we are right now. I understand the process your going through, and think it will be neat to see what you achieve, I know you'll do great things with your life. I have fun hanging out with you, I can really truly talk to you as I would a friend PLUS I like kissing you and just being flirty. No matter where you are mentally in life, it's always nice to spend time with someone you care about. I just hope you know I'm not here to add stress to your life, if anything I hope I am someone who makes you feel better, that you can vent to when needed, and laugh with and be fun and adventurous with and deep and thoughtful with too! Discussion is endless with you and I value that sooooooooooooooo much you don't even know!

Like you said in your other email, you don't know how long we will be in each others lives. And that is true, but I'm just enjoying the time. Realistically speaking none of us know how long we have on this Earth. Now I am not the kind of girl to sit around, putting my life on hold waiting for someone. If that's what was required for me to be with someone, well to me that would mean that that particular person simply was not meant for me. I can't exactly explain this, but since I was young I have always had this vision by which I try to live my life. I always try to remember that someday I will be a little old lady and I know when that day comes, I will be so happy with my life that I could look back and see every moment of it, and know that everything that had happened in my life happened for a reason, and good or bad, I wouldn't change a thing because doing so would not lead me to where I needed to be.

I've given up a long time ago on trying to force things to happen or avoid them. I make my plans, I revise and edit as needed....but I never get my heart too set on any one outcome because as the famous saying goes "when one door closes, another opens" and I fully believe in that statement. And while I know you were caught off guard by me telling you how I felt about you, don't judge that against yourself. I have always been a very open person and have never been into playing games. Sometimes people like that, sometimes they don't. Doesn't mean I plan out how things are going to be when I meet someone I like, I still like to be relaxed and see where things go, but just know that I'll always be honest with you. You'll never have to guess about how I feel, I won't tell you one thing but mean another, and if I don't know how I feel about something, well I'll just leave it at that. I'm very direct, but it's only because I'm not afraid to be...I just know what I want in life and I don't want to waste my time or someone else's either.

Funny thing with you is, I have felt like timing has been great. When you told me you were leaving, even though I would miss having you around, I was actually SO RELIEVED. Because I was at the point in my life where I felt like I still needed some time to myself, time to catch my breath. I can't explain it, but I remember thinking how great it was that the timing worked out like that, and the truth was we both needed time to ourselves. Really this is very funny to me. What I'm trying to say is that when I met you, I wasn't really looking for or wanting anything either....but now that this "window is open" I'm just enjoying it...I'm taking my time and I like that you are taking yours.


Well I have to go, I've been sitting here typing and now I am late for meeting up with my friend!! But I hope some of what I've had to say makes sense to you.



My apologies for the long email guys but you know how girls write. Anyhow 1) what is she saying 2) whas should I do about it 3) how lol

I owe you guys lunch if you're ever up in SF. Im going to a fashion school with 940 females and 45 males, 70% of which are probably gay, so I got you. lol


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:17 pm 
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c'mon guys, not even one persons opinion as to how to respond... its 11:00am in Cali and about time to write back to this girl. What angle should I take?


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Okay well I read through most of it and skimmed a bit of the middle. But I guess the first question I have is what is she talking about when she says
"I can tell that where you are at right now, you need to put a lot of focus on yourself, and i totally get that...which is why it makes sense that you wouldn't want to start a relationship at such an unstable point in your life."
Did you imply you were changing or said something along those lines. Where would she get that idea from? Anyways I might not be the best person to give advice considering I'm new to the seduction community. But from what I gathered, it seems like she's into you to at least some degree. But it seems like from she's scared about the changes you're going through. Meaning she thinks you might change from who you are now (which is someone she likes, and who likes her) into someone else (someone she doesn't likes or who doesn't like her). It seems like she's more worried about you deciding one day that you're not into her anymore.

I don't know the whole situation obviously but I think she's into you but doesn't want to get too invested because she thinks you're gonna change. She sounds a bit confused about you. Unless you've led her to believe you're working on changing yourself in some ways, but didn't tell her in which ways.

So it all depends on where you wanna go with this girl. Is she someone you want to be with or is she someone to have "fun" with. Because if it's the whole fun situation then you're golden because she's not gonna get attached to you, well at least she's gonna try not to lol..

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:11 am 
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She's talking about living wise as I may or may not move to SF.

I may have failed to mention that I''m going to be attending college in San Fransisco in October, actually a fashion college to study design and will be surrounded by 94% females and I think she's worried that I'll forget about her as i'll be 2 hours away from home (Sacramento), especially since we only met 3 weeks ago and she's scared i'll meet other girls, but I can honestly say that im not the type to just bounce around from girl to girl if i have a good one and this one really does seem like a good one and i'd like to keep her and thought we were on the same page by taking it slow and now she went off by telling me she doesnt want to wait and so forth..

lol I was simply confused as to what to tell her. I do like her but was thrown off by that reply and don't know what to take from it?


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Well then it's an easy recovery. Unless you actually want to take it slow. Tell her from your past relationships you've made the mistake of trying to take things too fast. You know.... Just say "Hey, my mistake I thought you wanted to take things slow" OR whatever else you wanna say. Then you should be back on track. If she's worried about you moving away tell her to live in the now.

I'm planning on moving out of town in a year or so, so does that mean I shouldn't see someone while I'm waiting to move...

You know what I mean? Just put it in that perspective to her and I'm sure she'll understand. Most of the relationships we have as humans aren't gonna work out, does that mean we should never date anyone. She doesn't know what will happen over the next few months.

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that take it slow thing--is something they all seem to have too say---ignore it by just saying ''sure'' everytime she or any of them say it----its one of those meaningless ''im not a slut'' things they feel obliged to say--who knows why and dont try to analyse it---they all say it---my big problem with it now is trying not to yawn when they say it


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I say focus on actions and not words. Women can talk for days about stuff, the key to seduction is distracting the rational mind while blowing up their emotions.


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Hey David,

Well this is my take, and this would be the advice I would give me friend if he was in the same situation. I will start with the second paragraph, since the first is basically an ice breaker.

Paragraph #2

I like you, you said you like me, but you don't want a relationship because you might be moving. I totally understand that.

Paragraph #3

I do not want a relationship with you if 1. you don't know who you are or what you want (what she mean is that she doesn't know if this move to SF is just for fashion, or if you want to spread your wings, date around, find yourself, etc..). 2. If you don't feel like you can commit to a long distance relationship with her, and be the same person that you are right now. It those two things are true, she rather just break it off then have a relationship with you.

Paragraph #4

I like where we are right now, in this moment. Its ok if you choose to move to SF and end this relationship, I still like doing what we're doing in these three weeks that we have. Don't stress about whats going to happen to us, I will be ok either way, just have fun, and be you.

Paragraph #5

I except life for what it is. If we are meant for each other, then we'll be together, but if we are not, then I will remember the good times that we had. I can't wait for you because I just don't believe in that, and it wouldn't work out if the situation is like that anyways.

Paragraph #6

Don't feel guilty because I told you that I like you, I am just a straight forward person. And if you don't feel the same way its ok, I won't be hurt by it. I don't want you to feel obligated to do something because you feel bad for me, or because you feel like you want to spare my feelings.

Summary

My opinion is that this girl really likes you, but she basically doesn't want you to drag her along if you're going to SF and have no intention of being serious with the commitment. She still good to go for the three weeks that you guys have together, but if you feel like you don't want the long distant relationship if you decide to go to SF, she wants you to be honest with her, and just tell her that. The email is trying to tell you that she understands, and that she's a big girl and she can take it.

Hope that helps man,

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