Alright, here's my issue. I can open or approach ANY solo woman I see. I have no problem talking to them about whatever...

Just for reference here are a couple I have used.
At the grocery store: Walked up to an HB8 who was looking at the variety of apples... "Which ones are the best?"


HB: blah blah blah
Me: I hope you're not lying, You dont look like an apple person.
HB: blah blah I know about apples
Me: are you from the country?
HB: No Im just health conscience... blah blah

I just stall after that.. I dont know where to take it, or how to transition into something else.

Here's a 2nd example.. I'll be in an arts and crafts store because Im an artist and I need supplies and shit

Me: Whats your first impression of this colour/whats the first thing that comes to mind when you see this colour?
HB" blah blah blah she either likes it or doesnt


Then I just draw blank.. Other than these, I come up with decent openers and can consistantly engage in conversation with women.. Like I said though, I can never get off the topic of the opener..

HELP!

What Lucius is pointing to, most likely, is the multi-threading in the Mystery method. I assume you know it, but if you don't reply back about it.

Anyway, you're perfect on situational openers. You open base on the location that you and the HB both share. That's great. But you have to multi-thread. Bring up 2 or 3 topics within the same minute that you open her.

Using your grocery store opener...


HB: blah blah blah
Me: I hope you're not lying, You dont look like an apple person.
HB: blah blah I know about apples
Me: Hey, that's a nice earring/bracelet/etc. My gf has the same one.

Even though you probably don't have a gf, you can just switch that up and continue to describe how she looks like your gf, then "confess" that you been lying this whole time about having a gf.

And in between that, you should throw in more threads, like "I never seen you here before, are you new to the neighborhood?"

or just throw in some routine stuff, like the C-Shape or U-Shape smile.

"Hey, an ex-girlfriend told me a theory about C-Shape smiles and U-Shape smiles..."

Its all about keeping her interested by throwing everything but the kitchen sink at her all at once to see which threads have traction, and which one doesn't.

How can you tell if it has traction? She starts talking and giggling at the stuff that you say, oh, make sure to throw in negs.

Multithreading works well with men. But women work on a emotional level you'll have greater sucess if you can connect what you say with different types of emotions.

IE men, did you see the game last night?, I got new car insurance from ect. I got some new cds I'm changing my taste in music. I might switch my phone network to orange. I've taken up a new hobby..

with Women you can go deep into a subject they like to pick things apart IE, your eyes look red today did you get enough sleep?, why did you stay up so late? oh so you had to rush some work in to get it completed. You must have had lots of coffee. Did you manage to get up in time the next day? I bet you were in quite a rush.
How come you had to do it all yourself didnt anyone help you? yeah stupid bosses they expect too much for what there paying you.
Are you feeling any better now? what are you planning to do after work? will you be too tired to go anywhere else?

See you could really go on and on, but I think she would be interested in telling you her thoughts.

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Now looking back at all we've had...
we let so many dreams just slip through our hands...
Why must we wait so long before we see
How sad the answers to those questions can be?

Stack openers too Love. If you use one and it doesn't stick, bust out another one. "Hey do you make apple pie? My gramma used to make this pie that would drive you INSANE."

Remember the purpose of the opener is to get you to your DHV routine. But there is no rule that says you can't use multiple openers at anytime. If convo has stalled I generally just toss out either an opener or a totally random question or comment. That's a tough sarge too man because she's only going to be there for a second. I'm not saying I wouldn't open her but then again, my whole reason for opening is to improve my game and not to pick-up THIS chick.

well shoot dude, we cant make you be more social or conversation-witty. you have to teach yourself this, or maybe sarge with a wing that is very social. If you draw a blank, hopefully ur wing can chime in, then you can start talking again and so on

i have the same problem too, so i get help from a wing.

hey theres always online sarging...u have plenty of time to come up with responses in that case lol

replying to my_game_suxs, not trying to argue here. But guys don't multithread that well. We're usually deep in one topic, like sports, we would talk about favorite team, players, how they can get better. We usually continue on one topic until it dries out. Then we change topic, like, "yeah, what's up with your car?"

Girls on the other hand, as you pointed out, think of 20 different things at once, from their self awareness (Does my hair look okay?) to the guy's looks (he looks sexy) to the guy's demeanor (why is he looking at my boobs?).

Girls naturally are good at multitasking, because of the way they think. If we don't occupy their brain with multiple topics, they will start wandering off, first in their head, then in person.

But I do agree on pulling the threads that evoke their emotions. But the ones you listed are negative emotions. I don't think you want to pull those threads when you first meet a girl. If I met a girl and the first thing she does is makes me feel depress, I don't think I would want a day 2 with her. Pull out positive emotions, like HBhitman said, talking about making an apple pie, but draw out the accomplishment of making a apple pie ("My ex got me interested in baking, although my first apple pie was terrible, I had a lot of fun making it. It was great experience.").

The emotions you mention, should definitely be shared during a day 2 or during the comfort and rapport building stage. To girls, there's nothing more sexy than a guy that truly understand their feelings, the good and the bad. But don't forget to continue to kino, or else you get her feeling so comfortable, she don't want you as her bf, but her best friend, lol (and sob).