I do understand the difference between clitoral orgasms and vaginal orgasms. That's not the issue that I'm talking about. I'm talking about me being a part of the status quo. No man, not you, Arch Stanton, neo87, JackZero, R.C or myself can guarantee a woman's faithfulness based on any type of orgasm. I do agree it will greatly enhance the relationship and even amplify things. I'm like you, I don't deal in absolutes. To say that my girlfriend would go out and have a menage with another man because I'm part of the status quo is an absolute and a huge leap because I didn't state the 4 signs of orgasms and used the work shake instead of quiver. I can say yes to all of the things after the fact but I don't like the idea of changing something that I previously said in order to make my statements valid. I'm fine with letting you believe that no orgasms happen. I am also fine in telling you that I don't believe that your statements directed to me on this issue is of any use on my situation because my experiences tell me that it's too cut and dry.

Arch, you have a lot of knowledge on what everyone else is doing. No wonder you believe that your girlfriend has never had a 3some with her roommate and her boyfriend. I bet she's sitting here reading this thread laughing at us in front of you while she has her roommate's boyfriend's pubes stuck in the back of her throat.

Seriously, you have to be intellectually honest enough to admit that there are no guarantees when it comes to faithfulness. Just about every guy that gets cheated on will say that they were blind sided and never saw it coming and would probably be the same guys bragging about how much his girlfriend loved him before the fact. If you found out that your girlfriend did the 3some with the roommate and boyfriend after it happened, we'd be telling you that all of the signs were there and she told you what you needed to hear in order to keep your ego in tact.

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That's why I'm asking you about your experiences because it appears that your experience is very limited. You have not answered my questions about your experiences up to now. I threw a validating question on women's orgasms and your answer was the typical answer of the clueless dude about women's orgasms. It's the typical answer of dudes who get cheated on.

If you're going to hide information from us to protect your ego, none of us here can help you with an accurate and sensible advice.

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The approach of letting things be and not taking action.

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You're lacking information about my ego. I've been open and honest about my ego while talking about my problem. I told you that I didn't believe that orgasms are the issue and if you do I respect your opinion. I just don't agree with your opinion. You asked me about my girlfriend's orgasms in the middle of my night but because I didn't see your line of questioning as relevant, I didn't put much effort in answering your question. Please read what I've said pretty much the entire time. I don't believe the orgasm is the problem. You said earlier that you appreciated that I didn't respond in a rude manner but here you are lashing out of me. You could have simply walked away and discontinued the conversation but for some reason because I'm not taking YOUR theory of what's going on then no one can help me. I'm listening to a lot of different sources and I find where you're taking this the least helpful. Your advice is not good for two days from now. I'll worry about making her chest turn red in the future but until then I get your point. Make her have vaginal orgasms.

If it makes you feel happy, I've had sexual relationships with at least 100 or more women but it would be dishonest to say because I've had sex with that many women doesn't mean that I've been in a relationship with that many women. To my knowledge, this is the only time I've ever suspected a girlfriend of cheating or planning to cheat even though it's possible that I have been cheated on. Just like you may have been cheated on in any of your 100+ relationships.

I would like to take you up on your offer to stay out of my post. Regardless of what you may think, I do appreciate the effort.

No because I'm not advocating for OP NOT to fuck his girl well. The issue is that whether you fuck her well or not whether she does something behind your back is not related to that. It's behind your back. And what is OP to do before Thursday now? He's been fucking her. How do orgasms or not play into preventing her from sucking dick on Thursday?

If we want to talk about taking action...the action that should have been taking was NOT fucking a cheating roommate without realizing that your gf is supporting cheating and ok with that. The important point in this situation is not whether it was a threesome or a tensome. It's that she brought a chick in a relationship into the bedroom and was ok with that. If OPs gf had brought home a random chick it's a different situation. It tells you how she views cheating...she's ok with it. If OPs gf had brought in a chick and said "this is Ashley...my roommate Sarah would've joined instead but she's in a relationship so I told her no" then great...you see how she views loyalty and cheating. The moment you see your girl being ok with cheating don't be surprised when she cheats on you.

Your comments stem from a lack of abundance mentality, where all girls are "evil" , cheat all the time, and are indebted to sexual favors, and hostile creatures. It's why you're paranoid about women.

The more exposure you have with women, the less hostile you will see them.



This just doesn't happen to me because if what Monsanto has been saying on this thread

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Again, this is you thinking you have knowledge into my mind and how I operate. Find a post where I even elude to women being evil. I don't even think OP's girlfriend is being evil. I'm saying that there are consequences for accepting certain actions. If you don't believe in cause and effect, that's on you. Nowhere does it imply that there is a lack of abundance nor thinking women cheat all the time. Plus that statement of a joke than me making an accusation about your girlfriend...that's why I wrote "seriously" in the next statement.What he's leaving out in his post is that there is no proof that orgasms equal faithfulness. He only states that girls having regular vaginal orgasms are happy in their relationships. Happy does not equal faithful. Orgasms do not equal faithful. However, your actions, as Neo has said on multiple occasions in this thread, will show how you may think.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm not 100% sure that I know that the OP's girlfriend is going to cheat but she did show how she views sex in a relationship and in her friendships.

No matter what Hellhound has said, it is a belief. What you are saying about the faithfulness of your girlfriend is a belief. You may be confident in your beliefs but that doesn't make them true.

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The science has been posted on that in this thread.

This is way too serious of a view, and again portrays women as "evil cheaters who always have a dick in their mouths".

This is not how it is in real life after threesomes, or during. they're just playful and fun. The only real fallout is the occasional weirdness the third party can feel after.

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It's a huge leap, IMHO. Not enough red flags. Too many guys here lack experience with women and default to "She's gonna get you, man, run!" because they are hostile over recently being rejected by women.


I don't believe you have seen anything to justify she will cheat on you, nor the posters who claim Thursday will be "SuckFest".

It is.
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I respectfully disagree with this. I read the science last night and again today since I've been more clear headed. There is no science in those articles that speaks of cheating being prevented by orgasms. I've even done my own searches and I can't find a study that says orgasms prevent cheating. I don't know how you guys are coming to the conclusions but wouldn't it be easier to state the passages in the studies that you've linked because I've read each one of them multiple times and I'm not getting what you're getting.I wish you guys would stop talking to each other and about each other and actually explain what you mean instead of what the other person means. If I read neo87's statements I don't read "evil cheaters who always have a dick in their mouths". I read be aware of the consequences that may happen. I don't think that vilifies women. I think it's just displaying a good, rational sense of reality and it's words of wisdom.

Please be serious with me. You say that it's a huge leap to come to conclusions and then it's obvious that you're leaping to conclusions about the guys on here. Please stop talking so negatively about other posters and help me out. I can work with your opinions without you needing to insult everyone that doesn't agree with you. You're the only guy here that is around my age and has a girlfriend that is my girlfriend's age. Your advice, in my opinion, should be backed up by facts that you have. So far, all I've got from you is:

1. She says she loves you
2. You guys have been exclusive
3. I (Arch Stanton) am dominant
4. Orgasms prevent cheating
5. Threesomes should be fun

That's all fluffy stuff outside of your opinion of yourself. I'd appreciate more solutions and less dick measuring and pats on the back saying everything is ok.I think that has more to do with your situation than mine. You saying that Thursday will be a "SuckFest" would be having to admit that it's possible that a "SuckFest" may or has happened to you.Why is it? Because she said the words? Please give me some details behind your thinking.

Who is using the word evil? Lol, Arch, now you're reaching. No one called her evil, or even a slut, or a bitch. Not one bad thing has been said about OP's gf. Even RC said, why care if she does it but that doesnt mean you have to delude yourself. Where is "evil"?
Now, I'm not playing this game of throwing an unrelated article and acting like it's relevant. Where does this study say orgasms=honesty or trust? Please cite this science of these "30 PORTUGUESE WOMEN." lol. I mean, seriously, you bring a study of thirty women in Portugal that isnt even relevant, but fine...I'll pretend like this study was on 1000 women. Where does it conclude a correlation between orgasms and fidelity?
Where was anything like this said? Again, not one negative word has been spoken about the OP's girl. No one even said to dump the chick. In fact, who is the one who says "you guys dont know how brutal and evil women can be"? Thats you Arch. Now you're saying WE are doing that? I dont think she's evil, in fact, you say chicks are evil and brutal. So which is it?'
Who implied this?
who implied she cheats all the time?
Nope on this as well
Where is this?

Look Arch, I dont know your girl/situation and Im not talking on your girl/situation. You're taking this SPECIFIC case and because it applies to you, trying to generalize it to dismiss it.

If a chick supports and encourages her friend to cheat = red flag

If a chick brings up to you returning a sexual favor to her roomate = redflag

If a chick is somehow out of town when said sexual favor was supposed to go down = red flag

If a chick's actions change around the time of a supposed sexual favor = red flag.

This isnt about ALL girls. This isnt about threesomes. Its about a specific case, where a chick has shown where she stands on cheating, brings up cheating, is suspiciously away on said cheating day, and youre all of a sudden unable to join her wherever she is.

Truth be told Arch, if your gf laughs when she hears this story or acts like cheating sounds so crazy in this scenario that says something. You said she was "brutal", her friends "evil"...the very fact her roommate fucked you while in a relationship, if she were being honest, she wouldnt act like cheating in this scenario was so crazy. You have a gf, who lives with someone who cheated on her bf in a threesome. She could be 1000% faithful to you, its dishonest if she acts like cheating is this crazy thing, especially when she knows its not. That's like if your roommate was a thief, and you had seen your roommate steal things, if I were suspicious about someone stealing from me, you'd be dishonest if you thought that was a crazy idea after seeing your roommate steal things. She could be 100% faithful to you, but thats dishonest and disingenuous.

I don't really see any red flags.

But I am starting to feel like the OP is a troll.

As far as the "evil" comment, that was in the context of weak men and bad game versus attractive women early on, not women you're exclusive with who tell you they love you.

Context is a wonderful thing.

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