Looks like you got a very skewed vision of most people's emotional and sexual life, and you think by mid-college they'd be learned enough in the matters of relationships not to "ask to be bf/gf". But when you look at the stats, an American's average number of sexual partners in a lifetime is around 10, and it starts when you're 18 (on average still). So I seriously doubt that the average person, once graduated, has had enough experience to think that asking to be bf/gf is a school thing.

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A guy came to the point to ask you to be his girlfriend and you do not even know his exact birthday and age? Such a bad girlfriend you 'll become

It was a complicated situation.

I don't understand that mentality. Why do people feel the need for things to stop being fun and to start being serious? Did his mom not love him enough?

I understand the mentality a bit.

When you go through a bunch of women and find one that really stands out, you don't want her to get away. But obviously you can't freak out and try to lock her down, especially with attractive women.

And then of course there's the alternate version of this, where the guy doesn't experience a lot of women, and when he finally gets laid he doesn't want to lose it.

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Yeah, both versions make sense.

Good explanation. Thanks.

I've told girls I want to be their boyfriend in order to get them to sleep with me before. I'll be honest and say that lying wasn't worth the drama... as there are girls out there who will sleep with you at least on a semi regular basis with out having any serious "relationship" tag on it.

The girls that demand a relationship before sex are usually crazy/have a secret agenda. I really don't waste my time on these girls. You can act like a crazy bitch.... Just can't do it with me.

I view this as a combination of the "let things evolve naturally" version and also a part where two adults have a brief discussion of where they stand as a pair. That way there is no ambiguity or bullshit. Once you've dated for a while and are giving off implicit signs of a closed relationship .. then it doesn't matter who, guy or girl, can initiate that discussion to dispel any doubt. And there's always some in the beginning of any relationship. You both make it clear you're not seeing anyone else and have no intention of doing so in the future and you're basically "boyfriend / girlfriend" officially from there, no "Facebook official" crap necessary

I always laugh at the numbers people put out for average partners or whatever. So much bullshit on the internet. Here's the best data I've seen for this, and it will show you how rather of a limited sexual history most people have:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad362.pdf

Pages 28,29 are of interest to you.

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Wow, those numbers are low. And yet most of my girlfriends have exceeded that average.

Thanks for the file, but that exactly confirms my estimate of 10 (if we talk about a man's average). In your survey people in their 40s have a median number of partners of 8; you can easily suppose that, by the time they reach their 70s, the number would be approaching 10.
And you're also making my point: if the median number of partners for the people in their twenties is 4-5, there's no way they would be experienced enough to know how to proceed smoothly into a relationship.
If you consider the obese, socially awkward, not-so-pretty and catholic fundamentalist populations, I'd say the numbers totally make sense. Let me guess: your girlfriends are none of these?

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Yep, none of those.

The number seems to rise smoothly for men, but not women. Interesting dichotomy if you ask me.
Men were more likely to cheat on a spouse, I think, based on most sources that looked into this?
Then they are above-average promiscuous or have included other sexual activity (such as touching sexually) in their "number" or whatever... assuming they flat out told you this. If you're just guessing what their numbers are based on how many guys you saw them with *outside of bed* (I'm assuming you don't watch them actually copulate.. hah), then that's completely worthless.
I wouldn't draw any comparisons between how attractive a woman (or even man is) and her sexual partner count. At the extreme, the 30 year old virgins might be morbidly obese, deformed or sick in some other way which prevents them for being sexually active. Other than that, it's a crapshoot. I'd say from personal experience, the guys and girls that slept around the MOST (as per survey, >15 partners in lifetime) were always extremely average looking folks.


Interesting note:
Assuming we had the whole population of people in that survey covered, the medians can be different, but the arithmetic averages (means) have to match identically. The make this a mathematical reality, there would be some interesting data in the >15 partner tails of the distribution. In particular, we have what I dubbed ages ago when I read the survey the "Slut Effect" - for lack of a better term. Since we only know they had >15 partners.. we don't know if it's 16 or 160 or 1000. My suspicion is that there's some girls out there in those tails that have a LOT of sexual partners. Much more than the men at the end of the tail of the distribution. And in a side note, basically, the top 30% of promiscuous men are sleeping with the top 10% promiscuous women. Yes, basically that means that 1 promiscuous girl is juggling about 3 guys.

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Men are more likely to be single, therefore to be promiscuous. Also, a man in his 40s still has a good shot at women between 20 and 60. You can't say the same of women in their 40s.

That reminds me that a survey had shown that the mean number of sexual partners in Japan had tripled for women in the last 10 or 20 years, while the number for men had stayed about just the same. Supposing the survey had covered the whole population, one can only wonder where the extra partners came from...

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Haven't seen the research on the male/female single/not single data, but, assuming that's true, actually a further supports what I called the "Slut Effect" ... a handful of single men being juggled by even fewer women

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