Dude, there is nothing wrong with not drinking. I have plenty of friends who don't drink, but still have a good time. Just say you don't drink, its simple. If they don't like it, fuck them. On the note of drinking games....if thats the center of the party, in my opinion thats a pretty lame party. There should be other shit to do, dancing or just hanging out. I drink, but can't stand a party where people are just there to get smashed, if thats the cased I usually leave and go find a "real party". A real party is where people are social, thats the point of a party after all.


virtuosityl, dude its people like you who beat down people socially. For throwing someone out of a party just because they aren't drinking, wtf is that? Like I just said a party is about hanging out, there are such things as parties where there is no alcohol.

Hell, Somenight I don't even want to drink. You can go with its my night to be the DD.

Or just be the permanent DD. There always a beer run. Fuck Fuck who is Sober. You are. You just saved the party! I have done that plenty of times.

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Your reason is justified, good and real. But the result of not having a more acceptable excuse for your reason(in the inebriated eyes of those around you at the party who see that your not drinking) is why you feel left out. That is the reason for your post.

You mentioned people approaching you asking you to drink...I bet by telling them that you have a lot to lose if you got caught drinking doesn't get a good response.... I bet telling them that your having fun without drinking doesn't get a good response.

I was not encouraging you to drink. I was offering a couple statements that you could make to people that may be more socially attractive than you being afraid of being caught or just saying your having fun without alcohol.

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I dont think that the kid who posted this is getting much help from that kind of comments....

Shades22....you are on a no way out problem...if you drink...you are going to get busted...sooner or later.

And if you dont drink people is going to make fun of you and you'r going to look like the bigest AFC of all times.

You are between the sword and the wall, so what can you do?

If I were on your shoes.... I probably wont drink...and when people asks....dont mind about it. Make sure that your friends know about the scholarship thing, so they can defend you if some jackass starts teasing you and tempting you to drink.

How old are you? I mean...waiting until you get 21 is always an option. You have years fo alcoholism ahead of you....belive me there is no need to rush.

Who are you trying to fool here? you can't stand aside and play "drinking-referee" or w/e, seems like a looser's idea. In fact, not drinking at all is a major dvl, makes you look boring and nerdy (sry but that's just our world is right now, maybe not drinkin in a couple of years would be labeled cool HAHA YA RITE)
Drink in front of them show them you drink, get half-way drunk and pretend you're more drunk than you are. Of course do this only if you're a good actor
It's possible to be in the game without alcohol, but then you gotta get to places like cafés and the like all the time, that's pretty hard when the big social bangs happen at parties/nightclubs/etc QFT

get some attraction going with an HB who is playing and make her your 'designated drinker' - ie, every time you lose in the game and need to take a drink, she takes one for you, in addition to her own
this solution, i think, should take a backseat to the fact that you are the man, in your own headspace, and do not apologize for it
if someone asks why you dont drink, say "why should I" and give them a blank look like they are speaking swahili

Alexxx, Thank you for your wonderful contribution. This is not a problem of mine, but if it ever is I will definately use a girl as "Designated Drinker". That is money. Reps for you buddy.

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You are the tool my friend...

I don't drink a lot and when I go to parties and somebody asks if I want a beer or a drink and I say no they will usually ask a few more times to be polite, its what people do. I wouldn't worry about not drinking at all, when you're sober and everyone else is drunk you can take advantage. In past experiences though being the only sober person at a party can often times suck.

the "people take advantage of me when I drink" line is probably the best, IMO. I've also used the "someone needs to watch you kids" line. I don't drink and it's easier to run game. It does suck that you can't ethically game drunk girls when you're sober, but that's the price you pay for a straight-edge (or more disciplined) lifestyle.

True. The game is all about control, if you're too high or too drunk you fail miserably. By all means you loosen up with alcohol, but you gotta watch out, especially with vodka, because there's a fine line between good-drunk and plain fucked up. But not drinking is dlv: people don't meet you first, they see you, and the first impression is the visual one..

And by the way, FUCK ethics

Ive gotta through something in here aswell...

First, if you ask me it takes balls not to drink, or to go against everyone else, and you shouldnt feel pressure. Its shows a strong frame, will, principles and confidence! BUT, only if you avoid being the soberly narc in the corner eyeballing everyone, or looking down on the drinkers (although i do, when it comes to the idiotic deaddrunks). If youre having fun and talking to people, noone is gonna point out that youre walking to straight and speaking without swallowing your words.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, you should however walk with a glass of soda. No need to lie about it contents, i doubt its that much of a topic, but it really works well as a comforting social shield when holding/drinking it, and like cigarettes it gives you somewhere to put your hands. Just remember to hold it casually by your hips rather than in front of your chest.

Also, you have a major advantage in being able to actually not going neanderthal on the girls... And deaddrunken sex is crap and in my experience often leads to regrets anyway, for a lay youre not even feeling or remembering the next day, just for a notch in the belt?

Be a funloving, spontanious, social and outgoing guy and others will respect you and wanna party with you, without having to "chug! chug!".

you know what.... i may be new, but im like you mate, i hardly drink, reason is i am scared of myself

I screwed up 4 relationships because i was drunk at a party AND! i watched a friend of mine vomit all over his girl friend.. it wasn't a pretty sight.

So what i do is i don't let them engage the conversation, and if they do i bring up a good reason why i am not drinking.. like the one i just used...
watching a friend vomit all over his girl-friend and you can say that put you off..
even though it hasn't happened to you.. it isn't lying... is it?

It's like the i'm gay comment Style/Mystery uses, although this isnt really flirting.

So that will pull you off the drinking aspect of things and then you can move on and talk about that party and how awesome it was... which will run you into a routine.. if you have one

It's a subject i defend... only drink if you want to, you are yourself.. remember that... nobody can change you

Btw, don't listen to people who say you have to drink.. you really really really really don't... watching drunk people is sometimes even more fun than drinking yourself

Hope it helped

love.... G

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Last time I played a drinking game I injured my foot and was on crutches for a week... I have decided that its not fun at all...

I quit drinking for a montha and still went to nightclubs with my mates, who did drink... and I just drunk soda and lime (its pretty much free or really cheap)... I actually stay at nightclubs longer when I dont drink than when I do which was a suprise...

Anyway when I was out no one even questioned if I was drinking or not... because they just assumed I was.

If people can notice that your sober, then it is because you need to turn up the energy a bit more, and be extra enthusiastic, loud and energetic... be over the top... speak to everyone... no one knows that your not drinking...

I was even accused of being too drunk once... and then I told them I was sober, and they didin't believe me so it made me seem even more drunk

Yeah so basically if you are over the top on the energy it should be fine...

It's all about frame control. Not drinking will only make you look boring and nerdy if you act boring and nerdy whilst not drinking. If someone throws you out of their party for not drinking then they're an asshole anyway, a party should be about just having fun and meeting people. Alcohol is a means to an end, not an end in itself. I had a friend who was a teetotaller for a month or two and yet he still always managed to be the life of the party wherever he went because he'd still get involved in conversation and be generally fun. If your frame control is good, it shouldn't matter that you don't drink. People are generally insecure and there are some circumstances whereby you could turn not drinking into a DHV. Perhaps try turning it into a routine laced with emotional insight? I don't know, be creative.