ME: Ohh that sucks, your phone is probably lame lol jk. -----don't include the lol jk.

ME: I can't believe u drive. You looked young when we were talking. How old are you? --- Don't include the "you looked young when we were talking." Also, instead of asking questions use a statement. Like "You looked young when we talked. Tell me how old you are."

ME: I taught u were 7yrs old! Haha. I took your number just in case someone kidnapped u i could call help for you. ----- Seven is a bit much. If you would have said sixteen it would have been fine. The kidnapped comment was funny. Nothing wrong with that.
ME: Honestly, i think you looked around 19-20. ----- Don't say "honestly" You're a man who's always honest. Saying "You look 19-20." is fine.

You started off alright. I'll give you some notes from where it goes more wrong:

ME: Ohh that sucks, your phone is probably lame lol jk. -----don't include the lol jk.
ME: I can't believe u drive. You looked young when we were talking. How old are you? --- Don't include the "you looked young when we were talking." Also, instead of asking questions use a statement. Like "You looked young when we talked. Tell me how old you are."

HER: lol ! Awe that's sweet of you lol
HER: How old do you think I am?
HER: Or how old did I look? lol

ME: I taught u were 7yrs old! Haha. I took your number just in case someone kidnapped u i could call help for you. ----- Seven is a bit much. If you would have said sixteen it would have been fine. The kidnapped comment was funny. Nothing wrong with that.
ME: Honestly, i think you looked around 19-20. ----- Don't say "honestly" You're a man who's always honest. Saying "You look 19-20." is fine.

HER: Lol! Oh my gosh haha no
HER: I am actually older than 20 lol but that's sweet of you

ME: Your welcome. ----- You're welcome is boring. You could have bantered.
ME: We should hangout, what u doing 2mrw or tonite? ----- Say "We need to hang out soon. Tell me when you're free."
ME: If you're more comfortable talking with me on the phone that's fine. I don't want to push things on you. -----you're coming off as the manipulative nice guy. And she hasn't texted you back yet so wait for her text.
ME: I'm 23 btw. -----Don't text her when she hasn't been responding.

(2 days later,)
ME: Hey, how's it going? ----- No! No! Write something less boring. Say something like, "You've obviously been kidnapped by a gang of ninjas. Hit me up if you're not yet dead."

She would probably have responded "lol" or something lame to which you reply, "I spent the last day taking karate lessons to save your life. You disappoint me, trolley girl."

His constant har
ping on her age makes him look like a guy who scares away younger women.

@Karlb That is some awesome advice. The part with the kidnapped by ninjas was gold. It was like a perfect setup.

How do you guys do that?? It's such a light, enjoyable discussion with the girl, not flakey or strained like the ones I or the OP of this thread have.

Damn bro that was really in depth and insightful. I defiantly agree i shouldn't have said your welcome and kept bantering. Do you think part of the reason why she didn't respond much was because i didn't flirt/tease (set my intention) her during the in-person interaction?

When she said she couldn't pickup the phone because of signal, would have you said to that?

How does that show i scare away younger women?

My pleasure. I think you had e-mailed me from my website. I sent you an answer earlier today. It's either you or a dude who is also named Moses C which would be pretty ironic if it wasn't you.

Wtf, no it wasn't me lol...are they a member of this forum?

Nothing. I wouldn't say "I tried to call" either. She knows.


Because you acted surprised by her age and made a couple weird jokes. This conveys you don't attract younger women normally.

I'm not saying you do scare away younger women. What I'm saying is your behavior conveyed to her that you were a touch rattled by her age...as if this never happens to you.

If you mean by "rapport" getting to know each other, then i think i did that. In person who spoke for about 7-9min and got to know each other. I just didn't flirt and tease her during our in-person interaction.

So are you saying i should've just setup a date after the first few text?. The reason why i didn't do that is because i thought that would be pushing things to fast, in other words uncalibrated.

True. But you don't tell or convey that to her. Act like you've been there before. Let her bring it up. My girlfriend right now is 20, and I'm 40. Initially, she lied to me and told me she was 26. Only later, after her hooks were in did she confess.

I shrugged.

Her response: "so this isn't new for you?"

Me: "no".

She smiled, and I could tell this made her comfortable. I didn't make jokes about driving a car, etc. Let her do the teasing, because it makes her comfortable to do so.

She's far, far more mature than most 30-somethings I've been with. Non-needy, a manager at a business, etc. She just happens to be younger and hotter, haha.

Alright i'll do that nextime thanks. I just said that age comment cos i didn't have any convo topics in my head.

Hahah still haven't learned to no surprise.

You're a ticking time bomb. This will explode in your face soon enough.

I can tell by your responses to the free advice on here, what you need to work on. Dude..You're Way Too Reactive! If you're this reactive to these forum posters, then when the girl reeled you in, and then released you..you became too reactive and needy. You need to hold your frame, and don't get butt hurt when the girl does a takeaway on you. Right now your frame is pretty malleable. You're lucky. If the girl was truly evil, she could be push-pulling you along way longer than she has, just for fun..and you would probably take the bait every time. Also, if she is already seeing someone, then she doesn't really have anything to lose by not returning your text or phone calls. For the next girl, come from a far less needy and reactive place..into a more abundant place. Make sure that the girl can see that in your text.