Hi!

Lets get right to it then.

I want to approach women everywhere. I'm new to all of this and I've read there is such things as direct approaches and indirect approaches. I would like an indirect and direct approach for each of these situations.

I want some stuff that opens up conversations both ways.

While sitting on a train and a girl comes and sits next to me.

What if the girl has headphones on?

The girl doesn't have headphones on.

While walking down the street:

The girl is walking towards me with headphones or talking on the phone.

The girl is just walking.

A group of girls are walking towards me.

A girl is sitting alone doing something like reading a book or typing on a laptop.

A girl is sitting at a table with 3 or more friends (all girls)

A girl is sitting at a table with 3 or more friends (girls and guys)

A girl is standing behind me in line.

In the club I see a girl standing alone.

In the club I see a girl sitting at a table with other girls.

In the club I see a girl standing in a group talking near the dance floor.

In the club I see a girl standing at the bar.

In the club I see a girl dancing by herself. - I don't like to dance.

In the club I see a girl looking at me.

In the club a girl walks past and touches me in some way.

I'm sitting on a bus in the back and I see a girl sit at the front by herself (with or without headphones on)


Thank you! I promise to use anything given to me and let you know how it goes.

I thought this forum was full of experienced guys. If you can't answer all of the scenarios at least give me 1 or 2. There have been 26 readers and not one answer.

Use Mystery's material.
Open, Root, throw a FTC and go to a routine (or two) and go to a story (or two, depending on the length).
Use negs and kino whenever appropiate.
Those are stages A1 and A2. Should last something for as 10 mins minumum. Could reach half an hour, who knows.

Here is an example.

(Opener) Hi guys (if she is a single set, dont use guys) do you believe in spells?

(Root) Because me and my friend were talking if spells work or they are just an illusion.
My friend has been an illusionist since age of 8..his room is full of 'Witch craft' books and gadgets..
He hypnotized my sister and made her believe she has a power of healing people.
So I laughed at him and was skeptic about saying that spells work...and said it is all the science psychology..

(False Time Constraint) I need to leave in a minute, my friends are waiting for me..

They say something....

You give feedback.. and then say ...oh I thought so too.... but...

Move to an interesting routine (esp routine).

(You can stack another routine)

Then, tell about a short story of a psychological article that you read that explains the psychology or tricks behind mentalism/magic/psychs.

A1 and A2 should be finished..move to A3.

As you can see you have to prepare written material.

The goals of this are:
- Dont display interest. Dont talk about yourself or her. Use Negs to disqualify yourself as the potential suiter.. there is no attraction at the first stage..so their is no base to build rapport.
- Be interesting and not be like the rest of the guys..who comment on how she looks or grill her with boring mundane questions.
- Use none needy body language. Confidence displays credibility and credibility demonstrates congruency and make her listen to you instead of turning her attention somewhere else. Confidence also helps you lead.


With the natural approach..
You have a variety of openers. You need to invest more thought into them..cause you dont have much canned material to use.
You also need to invest more confidence into what you say..especially if you adapt a direct approach.
Frame and reframe her..<- this is the key. She lives in your world!
Dont be needy..lead..never ask for a permission.. like 'Do you want me to tell an intersting story that I heard'. Just tell it!
Stronger openers involve the following charactarists. Women talk about relationship and people.. So use some relationships element in your opener.. involve a conversation that you had with your friend or your aunt. Be confident and expressive in your language.. women have interest in people..they memorize events based on emotions, not visual cues alone. They also produce estrogen, a hormone that makes them read body language easier..they love when someone demonstrates emotions or a good vibe.. You will also come across as someone who is congruent.

An opener doesnt have to be scripted, it can be based on something that you observe..talk about relevant thing or experience that is happening.. This will make the approach more natural and wont pressure her on taking the chased role where you are the chaser.

With that approach, to sum up, use a clever opener, be confident and congruent. Use a cocky funny approach (based on pull and push technique).

Start talking with her about 1-2 things that are relevant, or may be irrelevant but interesting for 3-8 mins..and then after comfort was established, shift to asking her questions about herself..try to establish a rapport.

As with target isolation.. I dont know anything very technical. You simply ask her to come with you, or ask her friends if she can come with you..

Natural approach works more in day time when there are a lot of women who are alone.. Scripted approach works in night game or during day game in social gathering..


See my last post that I posted yesterday for more detail.

It is --- and they've all answered most of these before.

Try searching...

anyone of these can be answered with a basic compliment to the girl or a functional opener such as "excuse me, do you have the time? my phone died"

you can never go wrong with those. just change the subject after you use the opener. get off the opener as soon as possible

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Look, man... almost everyone here starts with reading a book. then he goes practice, then he comes back to read and practice. In fact the things that you can learn in books does not work and at same time works. It's not true or lie, just because it all depends to the pick-up artist that uses the material, the conception and he's behavior. I suggest you to read Myster's method venusian artist handbook. The reason I personally love this book is because of the thoery and the conception of the pick-up that Mystery shows. Everything else is calibration - that means your ability to respond in proper way in different situations, which you develop with experience.
The problem of most newbies (that counts me in) is that they start reading and forget practicing. The educational process should be backwards. You practice more, read less.
Wish you best wishes and hope you will become great pick-up artist .