Hey guys,

Not sure this is the right section of the forum so apologies if it needs to be moved.

Here's the deal:

-Currently studying in UK since October 2014
-Met this girl that's in my class, she has no boyfriend (personally asked her by text if she has a bf one night when I was a bit tipsy, but I knew what I was doing at the time). She's sweet, quite quiet, doesn't taker herself seriously, very nice girl all together. Very fit, does yoga and shit.
-We've been quite close for a while but nothing really happened until recently.
-For 2-3 weeks not we've been much more intimate: have been seeing each other way more often, study next to each other at the library, etc...
-She seems EXTREMELY interested, and almost comes off as desperate. After a party at my student accommodation a week ago during which she was very aggressive, following me all over the place, being very touchy/physical, during a few minutes when I was sitting on a high stool, she came to "scissor" me with her legs and I eventually got a semi hard. At the end of the night, when she was waiting for her Uber to come, I went in and kissed her (mouth) before she left, didn't ask, just went in and she didn't say no.
-Needless to say we saw each other a lot this week for studying/lunch/etc... but nothing went further.

-Here's the thing, I'm trying to play this right. She's not GF material for me but I'd be glad to get some (I'm pretty sure she's not looking for anything serious either and just wants to have fun). AT this stage, all of my classmates (that were there at the party and in general) have said that I should really go for it and that it's an easy lay. For some reason I didn't do it during the party but I'm quite sure it would have been a sure thing. Also, the fact that she's in my class and I'll be seeing her for sure for the next couple of months everyday made me act kinda conservative I guess.

-Now, I've invited her to a house party on Friday, she said she'd gladly come. The house is about 3-4 minutes from my student accommodation so it's very handy. My aim is to have sex with her on Friday.

There's also one thing: like I said, she comes off as very desperate which is a turn off for me, I'm thinking that's why I didn't go for it last week. Now, I'm also "afraid" that if I try a move on her, she might turn me down as I might have disappointed her last week with not taking things further..

So should I just see how things go on Friday at the house party and perhaps ask her if she wants to go back to my accommodation for wine or something?

Well double check yourself for a vagina....

Don't be a pussy, just go for it.

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Yes of course, I'm gonna go for it. But it's just something I have in mind.

Any advice?

Yes, isolate her. (Movie/drinks your place). If she agrees, all fear should dissipate. She will be aware that you'll be making a move, and she'll be okay with it.

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Alright, so is having a bottle of wine in my room a good idea? So once we're getting a bit tipsy and all at the house party and we start becoming a bit physical, should I say "wanna go back to my place?" ?

Sorry if this sounds stupid but I've never done it this way so that's why I might be asking dumb/obvious questions.

Being prepared isn't stupid.
add "wanna go back to my place, and check out my-goldfish-50" flat Tv-Video Game?"

Something that doesn't imply fucking, because she is completely aware of your intentions. But saying other gives her a safety buffer.

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

I know why we have to do this stupid shit. It's still annoying as fuck, but it's true.

I'll add that you can also use "after party" instead of my place.

Hey some friends and I are meeting up at an after party for (fill in reason, drinks movie, w.e.)

Then just go if she asked about your friends check your phone and "hey looks like they won't be able to make it"

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them.

Additionally, LEAD.

Throughout the 'evening' lead her around. Take her by the hand, walk over to get a drink. Take her hand, lead to the dance floor. Take her hand, lead her to the next venue.

When it's time to go bang her somewhere.........lead.

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

Here's an update guys:

-Went to eat with her and another classmate on Saturday, the classmate left, we went to my student accommodation, she wanted to put her bag in my room, SPAM with 4 other people in another room were smoking weed/drinking so we went in his room a while, I smoked, we all drank a little.

-Asked her if she wanted red wine, which I had in my room, she agreed, we went into my room and spoke for about 2 hours (I'm fucking serious) and after a while I just grabbed her ass cheek and she right away started kissing me, we made out for a few minutes, clothes came off, I was in my shorts, she was topless, only had her thong left.

-I start playing with her thong/taking it off and she's like "oh no, we can't, I have my women issues". I'm like WTF. So she starts grinding me like crazy.

-For about 1 hour, we dry humped, made out, tit sucking, kissing on my bed, she was for most of the time on top of me rubbing herself against my man parts, she was moaning a lot, saying my name a lot, saying multiple times "this is torture" (as in not being able to do it for real), she also shoved her hand down my boxers a few times and said "what the fuck, it's so hard and gigantic (actual words)".

-Near the end, she said "I can try and have a shower and make it stop, it works sometimes". I said "listen, do what you feel most comfortable with, if you can then that would be amazing but if you feel more comfortable waiting a few days until it's over then that's totally fine". She didn't go in the end.

-We kinda agreed we'd do it for real when her period is over and she fell comfortable

-Saw her today with some common friends, near the end of the night, I took aside a while and said "when are we going for round two?" (with a smile on my face), she said "I told you I can't, I have my women problems", I said "oh yeah I know but I meant when do you think it'll be finished", she said "saturday should be ok"...

I mean, periods last 3 to 7 days on average, I don't think there's any reason for me to be skeptical here but for some reason I can't help it.

What do you guys think?

I got my red wings in new york last year.

It was on a trip. I got really drunk and didn't give a fuck. My brother called me a nasty mother fucker...

Anyway:
If you wanted to fuck why did you give her a choice? You should have just said ok go and she would have went and did it. She was looking for an excuse not to and you gave her one.

Lead he said.

Also, your physical escalation is...lacking. You basically went from 0 to 100 instantly. This girl was already into you and she knew that most likely sex was not going to happen due to her period (or at least her using that as an excuse...it's a lie sometimes did you see a pad?) so she went with it safely.

You should read Vin Dicarlo's escalation ladder. It will prevent you from jabbering for 2 hours not knowing how to make a move.

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

My physical escalation might be lacking but the way it went down was actually mega hot. I could feel the tension building and building and the moment I grabbed her ass, all hell broke loose, and it was amazing.

I didn't see a pad but she kept her beige tights above her thong. Does this confirm the period?

No idea,

I wouldn't try to replicate that move on other women. Just go learn proper physical escalation. Don't make any damn excuses, just do it. You'll thank yourself later when your not stuck in your head for 2 hours then diving in and shocking women.

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

We finally had sex on Friday, was very good, killer body, great stuff.

Now here's my question: how can I NOT turn this into a full blown relationship? After sex, she said "ok next time we're doing it at my place, I want to have my own shower afterwords!" (In my student accommodation, I share my shower with 4 other people, she has her own in her room). What does this mean?

Since Friday, we've been seeing each other at uni. I don't want a full blown relationship because first of all, I don't think it's the right timing (got lots of shyt to do in the next few months: group projects/uni exams/other stuff), and I just don't feel like getting into a relationship now. She's a very nice girl, the sex is good and she seems like the kinda of chick that doesn't give a shit.... so I'm trying to turn this into a friends with benefits thing.

Yesterday, I told her to come sit on my lap at the library for while, I started running my hand on her inner thigh in a very sexual way, she was straight away turned on, the fact that my group project colleague was sitting right there made things even hotter. Is this a sign it's already turning into a relationship or what?

Don't create imaginary relationships in your head. You're not a woman. Until things are explicitly stated, there is no relationship.

That being said, there are many posts on the forum about spinning plates and keeping multiple women on tap and happy about the situation. Do a quick search for some techniques.

Share here what you find. I'm interested to see what advice tickles your fancy.

To get you started here is one such thread:

multiple-relationships-theorists-welcome-vt187837.html

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I am a hunter of human excellence. I seek out those individuals who break the norms
and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

True, true, I'm getting ahead of myself here.

Have already read quite a bit of what is in your link, good stuff, thanks!

On a side note, everytime we see eachother, our interaction is very flirty:

-all sorts of innuendos, whether they are verbal or physical
-very touchy: crossing legs, touching ears/neck area, lots of arm touching, etc..
-when we look eachother in the eyes I can 100% notice some kind of "intensity" between us, some kind of "fire", which makes it incredibly hot.