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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:02 pm 
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I want to know about plate spinning as it's called in the manosphere or AKA dating multiple girls at once. I don't really know shit about this so if anyone has some good reads on this stuff please don't hesitate to point me in that direction.

Anyway here are a few questions; theories are welcome:

1. Generally if you haven't defined the relationship, more specifically meaning that you have not defined your relationship to be an exclusive one in anyway, is it ok to let girls know of other girls you are dating?

2. Is it ok to have girls see you on dates or hanging out with other girls?

3. If relationships are not defined what would be a good way of bringing up or enticing a girl to be in an open relationship? Polyamorous relationship?

Generally I'm just desecrate and avoid the topic all together but if it's brought up I admit that I'm in open relationships. I don't just want to spend time with one girl individually tho, I'd like to have girls be with me together.

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What I did the last time I had multiple women going on a recurring basis.

I use asymmetrical game. I came up with the term from the idea of asymmetrical warfare. I don't know if this is a thing I read, or came up with on my own. Basically, The words I use put me in the friend zone. I tell her she makes a great friend. I love hanging out with her. She is such a cool friend.

But then my actions turn up sexual tension, and kino to the max. I try to sleep with them as quickly as possible, and failing to sleep with them in the first meeting or two will actually put you in the friend zone.

But, if you fuck them, and put them in the friend zone they are stuck there while allowing you to fuck them because the door is opened.

The resistance comes in the form of a conversation where they say they don't fuck their friends (I'm not those fucking guys.) and they try to force me into a relationship. I respond that we are friends and the sex makes the friendship even better! I'm not at a point in my life where I want to put labels on relationships and it would ruin our friendship. I am open to the idea of a relationship in the future just not now. (Hope must be maintained. And it's true, if she remains a cool ass friend for a long enough period of time where I get to see her real personality then she can qualify for a relationship)

They don't have a leg to stand on because they got put in the friend zone, and allowed me to fuck them. This is great for setting up 3 ways also. You casually introduce the idea to her by asking her if she has ever had experiences with other women. She will let you know how open she is to the idea. Then find another one that has the same response. Fuck her while putting her in the friend zone. Then introduce your friends to one another.

Here is the thing. I actually treat these women as friends. It's not a lie. She's your little buddy. These girls make better friends than guys IMO. Guys tend to hate on me for some damn reason. Women on the other hand love me and try to elevate me.

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^ Interesting take on it.

I usually just set the open ended bit, up front. Want to get to know you better, not looking for GF, etc. Then we're really good friends.
I think it's natural for friends to become lovers, so I think it works fine.
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2. Is it ok to have girls see you on dates or hanging out with other girls?
I wouldn't suggest this. It's one thing for her to know you aren't exclusive, quite another to rub her nose in it.
I would never have them around each other deliberately.

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I want to know about plate spinning as it's called in the manosphere or AKA dating multiple girls at once. I don't really know shit about this so if anyone has some good reads on this stuff please don't hesitate to point me in that direction.
Its mentioned a lot in mgtow, avoiceformen, mrm, mra, and a variety of areas. Do a search. I warn you in advance that, the majority of men there are burned by women, life time of being kicked around by women, and friend zoned leaving them extremely bitter. If you can get past their ego, listen, and take away something.

Channels like JohntheOther, RBK, MgtowforMayor, TruthOverEverything are a few that come to mind.
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Anyway here are a few questions; theories are welcome:

1. Generally if you haven't defined the relationship, more specifically meaning that you have not defined your relationship to be an exclusive one in anyway, is it ok to let girls know of other girls you are dating?
Women can be as every bit as cunning, manipulative, evil, and ruthless as men. Hell, some women carry other man's baby and raise it as if it were the beta male mangina she married. I suppose it is all about your values as a man and what you feel is right. Honestly, I say nothing and leave it as being the kind of man who dates a fair bit but "has not found the one just yet. One day."
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A girl was flaky with me so, i started to chat up her friend, and her friend liked me. The flaky one got angry and wanted to shut it down. She tried to reverse engineer the situation but, I was not having any of it. I ended up flaking on her attempts. That day, she caught me out on a date with another girl. When she text me why I did not say hi or anything, I played it off like she must be mistaken.
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3. If relationships are not defined what would be a good way of bringing up or enticing a girl to be in an open relationship? Polyamorous relationship?
What she does not know wont hurt her. Seriously, women are very good at this stuff and have no issues meeting tons of men. More importantly, over the holidays, I was in what rsd refers to as "abundance." Since the holidays ended and the new year has started up, I have slowed down. During my "abundance" stint, at no point would I throw myself under the bus incriminating myself as a player, pua, and or anything like. I just got laid, fooled around, and spammed cold approach every time I went out. I cannot keep up with that 365days a year unless I started a PU company which I do not care to do nor am I good enough at it to do so.

I was taking down girl, she would then call me on meeting up with other women, and she would be right. I went from fooling around with a girl, college bar, and then after party at some girl's place. Again, more spam cold approach and hook up with sure things assuming she is cute and has a thin waist. The weekend came and I did a road trip with the boys where I spammed more cold approach and pulled some girls back. It got weird when she pushed for a full on gang bang and did toilet cocaine but, moving on, unless in a relationship that is exclusive, I see no reason to say anything.

More importantly, during "abundance," I spammed countless girls who either hooked immediately or did not. The loop was hook, pull or do more cold approach. If I pulled, finish and then go do more cold approach. Still, I was not pulling down 200+ women like rsdn JMLUV. That man is a savage.
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Generally I'm just desecrate and avoid the topic all together but if it's brought up I admit that I'm in open relationships. I don't just want to spend time with one girl individually tho, I'd like to have girls be with me together.
Agreed however, when brought up, I go back to what a miscer taught me, "I am just a guy in search to find the one." The same miscer also taught me to tell women I knew from college, uni, high school or a long lost female friend, "I had a crush on you for years." I swear all of the following are money. It is lame but, girls think it is a cute thing to say, and it puts down their bitch shield allowing sex to happen because "he likes me for years." very chode indeed but, I will take it.


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1. Generally if you haven't defined the relationship, more specifically meaning that you have not defined your relationship to be an exclusive one in anyway, is it ok to let girls know of other girls you are dating?
I define relationships before I get into them, but in an event where that doesn't happen I would make it clear that its something I intend to do and if she isn't okay with that then we won't work.
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2. Is it ok to have girls see you on dates or hanging out with other girls?
I don't really let the two worlds meet although I am open about who I am seeing and when.
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3. If relationships are not defined what would be a good way of bringing up or enticing a girl to be in an open relationship? Polyamorous relationship?
I think its healthy to be social for both parties. That and I am not ready for such a heavy commitment at this time in my life.


I don't bother with relationship titles though.


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So, I did a bit of research myself and I came across some information amongst the manosphere. Apparently, it is referred to as "plate theory." Spinning plates is essentially the

http://therationalmale.com/category/plate-theory/

http://therationalmale.com/2011/11/02/p ... clusivity/

See for yourself below:
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Plate Theory is for your benefit, not for women’s. That might sound harsh, but it’s a method intended to increase your value as a commodity that works on two levels. First, the external – by practicing honest, non-exclusive dating you communicate to your prospective plates that you are in demand. I’ve gone so far as to tell men to foster this sense by never answering the phone from Friday to Sunday evening, even when they have no other plans. The perception that your attention is sought after increases it’s value – it’s when men are too eager to get with a woman that their attention becomes worthless and IL declines. Nothing serves a man better than having 3 or 4 women competing for his exclusive attention and fostering in them that feminine competitivie anxiety in as subtle and covert a way as possible. It’s a real art that women are all too familiar with. Women are natural plate theorists, they simply use their varying degrees of physical attractiveness to line their plates up.

http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/23/p ... -scarcity/
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http://elitedaily.com/dating/date-a-guy ... rs/918320/
The article accurate displays exactly what JB does and why so many beta males who spend their lives being kicked around by women are like a game of jenga waiting come tumbling over. The way in which JB goes about women is way over the top but, as we have seen before time and time again, it works being a complete asshole. There is something that really turns a woman on when a man treats her poorly and mainstream motion picture plays into this. I think more and more blue pill men are waking up to the shit sandwich they are being fed.


Relating plate theory back to PU, essentially spamming cold approach or running game; call it whatever the fuck you like. Essentially, you are spinning plates; some take and some drop. In either event, you continue to emulate the behaviors and even when you do not have women, you role play as though you do. Women you do not have sex with just yet are gifted time slots like a Tuesday or Wednesday night rather then a weekend or Friday night.

Great read. The site has a bunch of interesting articles and topics and while, I do not necessarily agree with everything, it hits on a lot of things that are on point. The topic about SMV (sexual market value) is on the money. I think if men were more aware of their market value in relation to the women they interact and bed, it would put things into perspective all the more.


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Thanks for the post. I'll check it out.

Do you have any insight for me on this thread? what-do-i-do-i-m-really-confused-vt187948.html

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I want to know about plate spinning as it's called in the manosphere or AKA dating multiple girls at once. I don't really know shit about this so if anyone has some good reads on this stuff please don't hesitate to point me in that direction.

Anyway here are a few questions; theories are welcome:

1. Generally if you haven't defined the relationship, more specifically meaning that you have not defined your relationship to be an exclusive one in anyway, is it ok to let girls know of other girls you are dating?

2. Is it ok to have girls see you on dates or hanging out with other girls?

3. If relationships are not defined what would be a good way of bringing up or enticing a girl to be in an open relationship? Polyamorous relationship?

Generally I'm just desecrate and avoid the topic all together but if it's brought up I admit that I'm in open relationships. I don't just want to spend time with one girl individually tho, I'd like to have girls be with me together.
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Tyler,

Background: I'm in three polyamorous relationships, with the longest clocking in at 7 years and the shortest at 8 months. My advice is to be up front, confident, and well informed about the kind of romantic/sexual life you want for yourself. You are on an awesome journey, bold souls may apply to join you, right? Never act apologetic about wanting or having multiple relationships. There is nothing wrong with it.

You must be honest right off the bat. People have a right to know where they are investing their time, energy, and emotional and sexual health so that they can make informed decisions. Plus, open relationships are 10X easier if they start out that way.

After a few crap experiences with partners who never met, I became a firm believer that partners should meet each other. It tends to make everyone more comfortable with the situation, putting a human face on the "other" for one. Plus, then you don't have to have multiple birthday parties for yourself for X number of SOs.

I think that this advice applies for relatively casual relationships as well. btw, More than Two (google it) is a great resource.


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