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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:12 am 
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I feel we're programmed to believe we're going to get that high-paying job, BMW, big house, in order to land all the women we want; but it doesn't turn out that way. We get caught in the rat race and our options become limited. I fell for that trap. I was dating loads of chicks when I had no money and working retail.

I was also overtly respectful of boundaries and being professional, because I thought that's what women wanted as long as you have money in the bank and a nice car parked outside. On the flip side, my cousin was very bold and unapologetic. He wasn't making big money or had a nice car, but he had all sorts of chicks eating out of the palm of his hand. It was a bit sickening to me as an AFC that, when I would bump into some of these girls at the club, the first thing that would come out of their mouths was "Where's your cousin?"

After understanding a bit about game, I get it. They didn't want to hang out with the uppity dweeb, they wanted the fun guy, the rebel, etc.

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I feel we're programmed to believe we're going to get that high-paying job, BMW, big house, in order to land all the women we want; but it doesn't turn out that way. We get caught in the rat race and our options become limited. I fell for that trap. I was dating loads of chicks when I had no money and working retail.

I was also overtly respectful of boundaries and being professional, because I thought that's what women wanted as long as you have money in the bank and a nice car parked outside. On the flip side, my cousin was very bold and unapologetic. He wasn't making big money or had a nice car, but he had all sorts of chicks eating out of the palm of his hand. It was a bit sickening to me as an AFC that, when I would bump into some of these girls at the club, the first thing that would come out of their mouths was "Where's your cousin?"

After understanding a bit about game, I get it. They didn't want to hang out with the uppity dweeb, they wanted the fun guy, the rebel, etc.
Interestingly, my cousin's really good with women too. I wouldn't say he's a rebel or bad boy at all, but he's not afraid to be sexual and knows how to do it while making the woman feel safe. He'll frequently meet a woman for a date and still be hanging around with her days later.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:44 pm 
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It's simple through media and all types of books, comics, tv shows, movies etc, women are kinda seen as rewards, (and in reality they kinda are) save a girl and she's yours, be nice to a girl and she's yours, make alot of money and you get girls, you get really popular and you get girls....and logically it makes sense. even in the animal kingdom it's like that, less that 1% of the animal kingdom have the females LOOK for the males and half of those do the females have to do anything to get the males.....in most of the animal kingdom males have to be strong, creative, attractive, or talented in order to get the girl..peacocks who have the brightest feathers get's the hen, the strongest gorilla is the one who gets the women, it's a species of bird who has to build the most extravagant nest and females will come, and couple species of birds who have to dance in order to get the girls, and the one with the best moves is the successful one.

Basically what im saying is, women are psychologically and instinctively more important to us than we think We are males and no mater how complex our brains are, our primary goal is to pass our seed...That's why a boy who can't get a girl is the sad one and the girl who can't find the "right guy" is the sad one. Ever notice how the women who do approach guys are VERY confident? It's because they've rarely if ever gotten dissed. Rejection to the untrained guy can be VERY traumatic, Look at Roger Elliot, although many of us know how to deal with rejection to the average guy it can cause serious damage. Most guys are terrified to talk to girls, it takes a really long time to build up enough confidence to actually talk to a girl, eh tries his very best and completely gets shut down. now imagine that over and over again. i know many of you can. Thats why i Kinda like the friendzone, it's for the men who made second pace, the girl didn't want to be mean so she gave you the number. Atleast that save some from the utter fear of rejection

So catcalling is basically guys who are afraid of rejection or know the girl is out of their league so they yell out random compliments or pick up lines in HOPES that she'll acknowledge them. thinking that if she doesn't then maybe she didn't hear them, therefore saving them from the hurt of rejection. Women see it as annoying and i can totally understand why, Alot of it does come off as hurtful or creepy and after awhile it would be frustrating hearing compliments every day, BUT women will NEVER understand what men have to go through when it comes to finding a date.....i remember reading an article about a woman who said online dating for men was easy, and that men didn't know what to say, so she found a picture of her coworker, made what she thought was a decent profile, answered ALOT of questions, and sent girls messages she thought they would like to hear, not only did she get VERY few replies, but she got messages from other girls telling her how boring her page was. and a couple girls replied to her just to tell her how terrible of an opener that was.

but that's why i like pick up, we're waaay more successful than others when it comes to this, nobody can get EVERY girl but alot of us can get pretty much every one we want. thats also why i say enjoy the time you have talking to these girls cause girls know the difference between "he's genuinely interested" and "he just wants to fuck"

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:06 pm 
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i remember reading an article about a woman who said online dating for men was easy, and that men didn't know what to say, so she found a picture of her coworker, made what she thought was a decent profile, answered ALOT of questions, and sent girls messages she thought they would like to hear, not only did she get VERY few replies, but she got messages from other girls telling her how boring her page was. and a couple girls replied to her just to tell her how terrible of an opener that was
Please link if you can, that sounds entertaining.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:02 am 
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Very interesting post by Southerngentleman.
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.....i remember reading an article about a woman who said online dating for men was easy, and that men didn't know what to say, so she found a picture of her coworker, made what she thought was a decent profile, answered ALOT of questions, and sent girls messages she thought they would like to hear, not only did she get VERY few replies, but she got messages from other girls telling her how boring her page was. and a couple girls replied to her just to tell her how terrible of an opener that was.
Same thing IRL. That's why it's almost 100% of the time unadvisable to get information on how to handle a scenario with a woman from a different woman. B/c after all straight women do not have the skills to bed other women.
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but that's why i like pick up, we're waaay more successful than others when it comes to this, nobody can get EVERY girl but alot of us can get pretty much every one we want. thats also why i say enjoy the time you have talking to these girls cause girls know the difference between "he's genuinely interested" and "he just wants to fuck"
& a great combination is being both genuinely interested and wanting to fuck :D


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:19 am 
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thanks, and yeah you're right...ever noticed how in any movie if a "hot guy" rejects a nerdy girl or just any girl then he's automatically a jerk and gave up on a good girl? also have you ever noticed how the fat ugly nasty chicks really have no problem getting a guy, but the male equivalent is basically forever alone....

although those guys in the video are seen as creeps, i can completely understand them....if it wasn't for pick up or my friend then i would probably be one of them.... and ALOT of us would be one of them

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:51 am 
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Why I suggest against spam approaching.
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Have any other girls out there ever been stopped by a short Indian guy named Shane or something? This guy has literally tried to stop me a grand total of six times, and every time he tries to ask me if I'm from LA or something cheesy. Does anyone know who this guy is? Does he even go to school here?
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The last time he approached me, before he could even say anything I said "This is LITERALLY the sixth time you've done this to me" and he was just like goddamnit and walked away.
Even fairly large cities are not as big as you may think. One million people? Sure, but half are men and %90 are not in your age range. So 50,000. Then 2/3 are fat or ugly, so like 15,000. You do 50 approaches a day for a year(18,000) and you're at over the entire eligible pool of women in a city of over a million. If you frequent the same places, you're hitting on the same women multiple times in just a few months.
It's a fine way to become a pariah.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:27 am 
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thats exactly why unless i REALLY want to have sex with a girl, i don't try for their number, i just enjoy the conversation

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:30 am 
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unless i REALLY want to have sex with a girl, i don't try for their number, i just enjoy the conversation
Fine with me; more abundance for guys like me to enjoy :wink:


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