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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:06 am 
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I hang out at the coffee shop a lot and I notice 2 things the most often: hot girls and AFCs.

so a hot girl walks in and the AFC will bend backwards for her. Girl says "do you know if there is any power outlets here? I need to plug in my laptop. I always think my laptop has battery when I leave home but it never does lol" AFC will look all over the place and tell her about all the power outlets.
"can you plug my power cord into the outlet? I can't reach that far." the AFC will say "absolutely." she says "can you watch my stuff? I am going to the bathroom" AFC says "sure."

I am not criticizing AFCs, I am one myself. as a matter of fact, I act like that all the time.

my question is, in these situations, how can I act like I am not impressed? how can I act like girls hotter than her walk into my life all the time and it doesn't matter to me that she is hot?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:50 am 
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You can give her a hard time about it. Say something like, "Really??" She'll likely laugh and say "Please. Pretty please?", to which you'll point to your coffee and items on the table and respond, "I kinda got my hands full." After that little episode, she'll probably excuse herself again and you can break into conversation... unless she really has no interest you.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:01 am 
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You separate yourself from the AFCs with a nonchalant attitude and a laid back vibe.
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"can you plug my power cord into the outlet? I can't reach that far."
"it'll cost ya."

Think of their comments as an "opener" and if it feels right, get a little light banter going on. "What's with all the country music they're playing on the speakers..." etc. She'll laugh, swoon and comment on whatever you said.
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can you watch my stuff? I am going to the bathroom
"i'll defend it with my life if i have to." Say whatever; just a little comment that gets her to giggle. She comes back, "I got in 3 fights when you were gone." You use the fact that you were defending her stuff as a reason why she has to pay you back i.e. take you out for a coffee sometime (or right there on the spot).


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:17 pm 
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The watching the stuff thing is fine. That's just normal courtesy. I've had both men and old women ask me the same. It just means "I want to take a piss without lugging all of my crap around".

The power outlet thing is definitely princess behavior that I wouldn't accommodate.

That said, you're viewing all of this through the wrong lense. Which seems to be something on the order of "What can I say to her in this situation to generate attraction!" - nothing. This comes from the magical tome mindset. If I say X when Y happens - bang! Attraction! Not how it works.

Either she's already attracted to how you look, at which point, what you say to her initially doesn't matter; or she's not into your look, at which point, whatever you say to her in a few sentences is not going to change that.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:31 pm 
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The watching the stuff thing is fine. That's just normal courtesy. I've had both men and old women ask me the same. It just means "I want to take a piss without lugging all of my crap around".

The power outlet thing is definitely princess behavior that I wouldn't accommodate.
Exactly, this is important to note. These two things are very different. Asking you to watch things, which requires no effort from you, and asking you to get up and do shit for her, or spend money on her, is different.

In general if it's a very big request where she wants me to be her bitch, I laugh and say I'm busy. One time I was in a club and a girl asked me to buy her and her friend a drink. I don't mind buying a girl a drink although I don't do it on the regular, but I don't like the idea that I have to get her friend drunk. So when she said it I pointed to the nearest AFC and said "I bet he would love to buy yall drinks". I didn't say it angry, but with a shit eating grin and some charm. The girl soon dropped the request, and in no way did it make her lose attraction.

For non-bar type things you just give the girl shit. If a girl asks me to watch her stuff, when she gets back I tell her "Thanks for letting me go through all of your stuff". It's funny and you can easily transition into a conversation and report building.

My goal is to always be friendly and joking, always smiling. Never angry or mad or reactionary.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:41 pm 
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That said, you're viewing all of this through the wrong lense. Which seems to be something on the order of "What can I say to her in this situation to generate attraction!" - nothing. This comes from the magical tome mindset. If I say X when Y happens - bang! Attraction! Not how it works.

Either she's already attracted to how you look, at which point, what you say to her initially doesn't matter; or she's not into your look, at which point, whatever you say to her in a few sentences is not going to change that.
I thought girls aren't visual and it's all about how you act and what you say?
Imagine a guy looks like Brad Pitt but acts like a retard. he is so shy he cant even look in her eyes, he keeps looking at the floor. he keeps putting himself down and qualifying himself = attraction killed
imagine a guy is ugly but acts confident = attraction created

what you are saying goes against everything I have been taught?

you are right, I do believe when a girl says X and the guy says Y that creates attraction. am I wrong?

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That said, you're viewing all of this through the wrong lense. Which seems to be something on the order of "What can I say to her in this situation to generate attraction!" - nothing. This comes from the magical tome mindset. If I say X when Y happens - bang! Attraction! Not how it works.

Either she's already attracted to how you look, at which point, what you say to her initially doesn't matter; or she's not into your look, at which point, whatever you say to her in a few sentences is not going to change that.
I thought girls aren't visual and it's all about how you act and what you say?
Imagine a guy looks like Brad Pitt but acts like a retard. he is so shy he cant even look in her eyes, he keeps looking at the floor. he keeps putting himself down and qualifying himself = attraction killed
imagine a guy is ugly but acts confident = attraction created

what you are saying goes against everything I have been taught?

you are right, I do believe when a girl says X and the guy says Y that creates attraction. am I wrong?
1. Alot of PUA's teach that looks make no difference. I don't believe it. I think it plays a role, just not as much of a role as a normal guy would think.

2. I would argue that how you say it and how you act while saying it is more important than what you say back to her. If I had to put numbers on it it would probably 2/3 how you act when saying it and 1/3 what you said.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:10 pm 
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I'm confused by pu. Can attraction be built or is her mind made up in first minute?
Anyways... Instead of trying to not be impressed, just open these girls... Screw power cords.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:37 pm 
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I thought girls aren't visual and it's all about how you act and what you say?
Girls are MORE visual than men initially. Men found a majority of women their own age to be attractive based on looks. Women found %80 of men to be "below average" based on looks. In the opening interaction looks matter even more to women than they do to men.

Now, the more time goes on, the more it matters what you do. But it isn't something that just sparks up in a few seconds. If a girl looks at you and thinks "Ew" - you're sunk. It doesn't matter what you say or do, there is no way you're turning this around. Similarly if a girl thinks "He's cute ^_^", you don't really need to do much to get with her. Just don't screw up. Where "game" primarily has the biggest payoff, is with girls who are pretty lukewarm on your appearance. If a girl thinks you're "ok" looking, she might become attracted to you based on your personality.
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Imagine a guy looks like Brad Pitt but acts like a retard. he is so shy he cant even look in her eyes, he keeps looking at the floor. he keeps putting himself down and qualifying himself = attraction killed
Mostly, yes. A guy can have looks and status and still suck with women. Just as a man can be 7' tall and athletic, yet suck at basketball. But those are intrinsic and powerful advantages.
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imagine a guy is ugly but acts confident = attraction created
This is where you're wrong. Women are attracted to confidence, but not confidence alone. He still needs other qualities. As far as "ugly" goes, the one thing I want to say is that facial ugliness is usually not a killer(unless you're an absolute gargoyle). However, your height, the way you dress, your grooming(which includes skin clarity and teeth), and the physical condition you're in, matter a lot. A short guy with an ugly face, but 17" arms and %12 body fat is more attractive than a man who is 6' tall and handsome, but 50 lbs overweight.
Looks are the single most important determinant for the level of woman you can consistently attract. It doesn't mean that the other stuff doesn't matter, as it does. Where it matters the most, are guys who are "cute". A guy who's a 7/10 can absolutely slay, if he's got everything else down.

A guy who's a 4, will never be able to pick up a lot of hot strange girls. Not even 7/10 girls. A 4 can punch above his weight in social circles, but random pickup will always elude him.

The most toxic thing about PUA is that they don't teach you the easiest part of improving with women, which is your style and physical condition. If you are a socially competent man, your body matters more than "game". The "game" you mostly need is talking to women, and moving with sexually. That's it. There are little things that add up to a decent amount. But there is no reason to learn those things while neglecting the most important stuff. A great deal of your looks are within your control. I always suggest putting more effort into improving your appearance than studying "game" for new guys.
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what you are saying goes against everything I have been taught?

you are right, I do believe when a girl says X and the guy says Y that creates attraction. am I wrong?
Game matters. But it won't get you anywhere if you don't meet a certain level of physical attractiveness. Game is best used on a girl who is already somewhat into you. That's when it is truly powerful. Using it to battle uphill on a girl who thinks you're ugly is doing things the hard way(and with expectedly lower success).

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:12 pm 
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Dude, you shouldnt "act" like anything. Help the poor freakin girl and start a conversation, flirt, get her number, and close.

Man up.

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You separate yourself from the AFCs with a nonchalant attitude and a laid back vibe.
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"can you plug my power cord into the outlet? I can't reach that far."
"it'll cost ya."
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can you watch my stuff? I am going to the bathroom
"i'll defend it with my life if i have to." Say whatever; just a little comment that gets her to giggle. She comes back, "I got in 3 fights when you were gone." You use the fact that you were defending her stuff as a reason why she has to pay you back i.e. take you out for a coffee sometime (or right there on the spot).

hahaha loved this example. Wouldn't change a thing.

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You separate yourself from the AFCs with a nonchalant attitude and a laid back vibe.
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"can you plug my power cord into the outlet? I can't reach that far."
"it'll cost ya."
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can you watch my stuff? I am going to the bathroom
"i'll defend it with my life if i have to." Say whatever; just a little comment that gets her to giggle. She comes back, "I got in 3 fights when you were gone." You use the fact that you were defending her stuff as a reason why she has to pay you back i.e. take you out for a coffee sometime (or right there on the spot).

hahaha loved this example. Wouldn't change a thing.
Thanks brother i appreciate it. I don't deal in theory ; only in what has actually worked for me in real life out in the field. In my view all the theory shit you see on other forums and stuff about 'alpha this alpha that' can go fuck itself.

Get out, be fun, have a classy yet sexual vibe, be relaxed; the girls are mirrors so they will reflect that back to you. This stuff isn't that hard or complex.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:22 am 
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That said, you're viewing all of this through the wrong lense. Which seems to be something on the order of "What can I say to her in this situation to generate attraction!" - nothing. This comes from the magical tome mindset. If I say X when Y happens - bang! Attraction! Not how it works.

Either she's already attracted to how you look, at which point, what you say to her initially doesn't matter; or she's not into your look, at which point, whatever you say to her in a few sentences is not going to change that.
Of course, she has to somewhat think you're at least cute in order for something to come about the situation, but I think that's the point of what the OP is attempting... to create a situation.

For example, when I was a teen, I was at the mall and some random chick walked up to me and said "Didn't we have a class together or something?" I just answered "No.", and she said, "Oh... okay.", then walked away. She basically worked up the nerve to come and talk to me in hopes that I would keep the conversation going but since I didn't create something from her opener, she felt shot down.

The point I'm getting at is, for all we know, asking OP to help her with the laptop was her opener and she was hoping he would get a banter going. But yeah, it is possible she just wanted someone this ugmo to plug it in and leave her alone. :lol:

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You can never know for sure if a girl's opener is actually an opener but for god's sake assume it is like Mr. International is saying. Assume attraction. It can pull a girl who never thought about sex (i.e. she actually just wanted help with finding the outlets) into being into you. Think about it. WOMEN ARE MIRRORS - ASSUME ATTRACTION GENTS.


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Of course, she has to somewhat think you're at least cute in order for something to come about the situation, but I think that's the point of what the OP is attempting... to create a situation.
I wanted to clarify to OP. Which, as he said, he thought otherwise. That you can take a girl who thinks you're highly unattractive and overcome that with confidence. I know a lot of people are aware of this, but a lot of people are not(both inside and outside of the community). Most of the pictures or videos I see posted by guys on pick up forums, are guys who are either skinny, or fat, and they're almost universally wearing clothing that doesn't maximize their looks.
Probably %90+ of men are capable of making themselves at least a 6/10 if not closer to an 8/10. That alone, will not assure you can attract and seduce attractive women, but it gives you the base you need for success. Tack good social skills onto that, and you have a great combination that will almost certainly result in success.

I've seen a lot of guys struggle at pick up for years. They all have one thing in common; they never worked to improve their looks. Some of them have approached thousands of women, but they aren't having much success. I always see the same thing. The guy is either skinny or overweight and he's usually not wearing clothes that suit him.

"Looks don't matter" and "What do I say to generate attraction in X situation" go hand-in-hand. When I see someone express one of these things, I know they believe the other.
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The point I'm getting at is, for all we know, asking OP to help her with the laptop was her opener and she was hoping he would get a banter going. But yeah, it is possible she just wanted someone this ugmo to plug it in and leave her alone. :lol:
Absolutely. I wasn't suggesting he not talk to her. If she picks him to ask, there is a good chance that's exactly why. My point was mostly that there is no "right thing to say". If she's asking where a plug is, because she wants to talk to you, just engaging her with good energy and vibing is all that matters. You don't need the perfect reply.

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