lol..

Interest isn't determined by what a girl says or does. Interested is determined by the feeling you have in your gut about the girl. When a girl is interested your gut tells you so. Its clear cut and obvious. When you have to look to her actions and analyze her text messages to figure out whether she's interested or not; its because she probably isn't as invested as her action make her appear.

This is a simple case of you getting needy. She wanted you when you didn't want her as much and then once you started wanting her again she didn't want you as much. You have to develop more control over your emotions and this experience will be something that teaches you how to do that.

I'd cut my losses her and take the lesson. You have to build yourself up emotionally by letting go, because you understand that there is abundance out there. Let go. completely. Even if she hits you up asking you to come fuck her, ignore it and move on. You have to build your emotional tolerance up. Hers is currently at a higher level. Take the experience and move on.

The benefits that come from doing so will be more worth it than this girl could ever be.

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That's not flaking. Flaking is when you say you will do something and then don't.

Excellent post, Eddie. It really makes a lot of sense for me right now...

I ended up going out with her. Made out with her all night, she was clinging onto me, hugging me, telling everyone she was kissing me and kissing me on the cheek every now and then for everyone to see. I got drunk, told her friend I liked her then the club ended and we went back to hers. She got weird, wouldn't kiss me and another guy started hitting on her. I didn't do anything because I didn't want to come off as needy or insecure but that didn't pan out too well and I guess I just looked weak by not standing up for her/myself.

Anyway, I left in the morning with the guy who was hitting on her still there. I tried to kiss her but she wouldn't so I said "You like him? I guess i'll leave." She just looked at me and didn't say anything. Called her in the afternoon and asked what happened last night(Why she was weird) and she just said we shouldn't meet up any more.

I'm guessing I was needy. I got that gut feeling that she was interested all night until the point she left after I told her friend how I felt about her(Dunno if anything was said to her but I could guess as much). On the way to hers she was distant, didn't really come to me or anything. Either she fell for the guy who was hitting on her(Although she pushed him away and and walked away from him deliberately) or I totally failed by not stepping up and telling the guy to fuck off or she heard how I felt and decided to cut her losses because it was getting complicated. I specifically got that gut feeling she was off when we exited the club.

I'm going to take from this the lesson and work on myself. After her ending it abruptly and acting so randomly I just wanted to know what the reason was so I could learn from it in the future but I guess it's apparent the problem is I was just needy and too into her. If she calls or texts i'm just going to ignore her.

Ignore IOI's. Nothing is real until your dick has been in her mouth or pussy.

Tough break, GamesSN...

I still think she just sounds like a crazy person. Better you found out now than a few months down the road!

Ah, dodged bullet really.

The only really odd thing is I didn't drink much but I can hardly remember a thing from that night. Two days later and some of the stuff is coming back to me. It's very fucking odd.

I think what got to her was telling her friend I was probably going to end it because I liked her(Girl is married, can't be falling for a chick like that!). The friend said something to her then she made herself scarce for the rest of the night. Could have been other things but whatever, i'm done with it now.

Married chick.... Nothing is certain with them.

The only thing certain about married chicks is how cock-starved they are and how pussy-whipped their husbands are.

This story reminded me of one of my own:

I approached this young girl (22) in a sporting goods store. Started small talking about shoes and eventually talked about our backgrounds. Spend a good 5-8 minutes talking with her, being genuinely interested in learing about her. She said to my face, she was very happy and glad to meet me, and when I asked for her # she acted as if she was about to ask for mine...

MASSIVE interest! We texts walls of text all day (both of us) for weeks. Then all of a sudden she stops responding. I think I sent 1-2 messages that she didn't respond to for days. weeks.

Months go by....

I realize I still have her number, and figure hey what's to lose. Shoot her a message. We start tetxing again. Again walls of text for weeks. Guess what? Now she hasn't responded to 2 of my messages for a couple weeks.

After so long you see a pattern. Besides the no response, I have learned enough about her that helped convince me to completely let go. Difficult women rarely become easier.

I did cringe when I heard you were talking to her friend about the relationship. That's cruisuing for a bruising!

Haha. Yeah, I think that was the killer here. The guy hiting on her was to make me jealous and get at me after basically all but ending it. She'll end up getting in touch.

I don't see the mystery here... Don't text for weeks without meeting up.

Texting should only be used to arrange a date.

Walls of texts sounds like a dude too afraid to ask her out.

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but I got her out on a date 2 nights ago and we kissed....

I agree about the walls of text. It's best not to, but if the girl is I at least give 2/3rds.

So did we determine that the best thing to do when girls are intimidated or so attracted it makes them nervous is just make a fool of ourselves? I've had this issue.

Yes, if you are a man of high value, you will make a woman nervous. If you act like a goof, then it can help alleviate "pressure." The best relationships I've had with women is when I just act aloof and goofy and really don't care where it goes (LTR), because the girl isn't pressured one way or another.

Tyler talks about this in the Blueprint.