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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:07 pm 
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Hey Zip!

I have a friend PARTYGAL5 which parties; drinks and does weed, and fucks. The fucking is my type but the smoking weed and drinking (I use to drink but can't because of health reasons). Anyways, I really should stop gaming her because she's only 17 and I don't know when she's turning 18 but still she's really not my type.

I'm very picky with women and have poor tastes. As you can tell!

There's not alot of good women out there that isn't pregnant, doing drugs, drinking, partying, bitches.

I'm the kind that's intelligent but always get snubbed by HB's. Why? At first I thought it was because my looks but when I read it dawned to me that women base their attraction on a man whose confident, strong, charasma, fun and sociable, also challagening. This is why I wanted to know about the GAME because I wanted an edge of attracting women.

You know what's messed up is that when I was younger, I had game. I was making out with college girls not even my age, having oral sex with my cousin's wife, having flings with clients here at Trinity. Now I got brainwashed by ther-a-rapists I totally lost my game. I've turned into thier Model Son of being a goody-to-shoe!

Here's another weird thing: At trinitiy I have great game, however when I go out in public I don't. Why? Probably because I'm comfortable and safe. While in public I think every women's a threat; as if they're gonna hurt me. Stupid huh? Yeah I know! But all well!

I know about the crashed FRAME. I've just identified it last night at work that I was afraid of being alone for my rest. I would die alone.

Like LA Tripp said be comfortable with myself; how can I when all I do is scare people away? I feel like this evil person that's lurking deep within with sinister thoughts of maiming. However there's a part of me that love women so much that I'm protective and will do anything to protect them. I hate the thought of women getting hurt physically or raped. I've seen that in my past to much and it makes me wanna destroy men who hurt women like that.

I know I have trust and alot of anger issues. 'm sick of my counselor because of his bullshit! Since sometimes I don't go to program, he threatens me and tells me I'm gonna lose apartment. That's another thing I hate is being controlled. I'm outraged and furious when I'm controlled. It's like a animal trapped in a corner; he either has a response to fight/flight.

I need some help here and I know you and the other PUA's can help me.

"JUST ANOTHER AFC"

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Hey everyone! Thanks for bearing with me... some really exciting stuff happening that I'll let you in on soon. I'm going to be answering these later today, so check back later :)

EDIT: alright guys, some crazy stuff is going on, but I'm not forgetting about you! Just letting you know these are going to have to wait just a bit longer. You guys are the greatest! Didn't want to leave you hanging.

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Thanks Zip for the advice.

I have another if you can help me out on this.

So my target mentioned that she is a good cook, so I have invited her over to my place to cook something for us to eat. Also she is living in the dorm and is missing cooking. I also mentioned that she can bring her friends over as well, I do this so the thought of being over at my place alone does not scare her away.

Ok, let say she brought a friend, what is a good thing to do after dinner? I don't want them to be bored and leave to a party, or simply go back to their dorm room and watch TV. My apartment is quite simple, no TV, and things are neat.

The only thing I can think of is drinking and talking after dinner about random stuff, or play truth and dare (is this still allowed at this age?). I really need some good advice on entertaining them, and seducing the target at the same time while having her friend accept the fact that I like this girl, and is not blocking.

What would you like expect from a guy if he invited you over for dinner with your friends, and hang out after?


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Zip:

Is it (bigtime) DLV when someone you're texting doesn't seem to have a firm grasp on 5th grade grammar?

I'm not talking about using a comma where a semi-colon should be..

No. I'm talking:

Your funny.
We had to many shots.
There going to be here.

At least when I text a girl, and her grammar is this miserable, it is a DLV in my opinion. Guys seem to be more tolerant of dumb girls than girls are tolerant of dumb guys. So is grammar a big deal to you?


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Is it (bigtime) DLV when someone you're texting doesn't seem to have a firm grasp on 5th grade grammar?

I'm not talking about using a comma where a semi-colon should be..

No. I'm talking:

Your funny.
We had to many shots.
There going to be here.

At least when I text a girl, and her grammar is this miserable, it is a DLV in my opinion. Guys seem to be more tolerant of dumb girls than girls are tolerant of dumb guys. So is grammar a big deal to you?
ABSOLUTELY. Guys, you're all into this stuff not just to get ANY woman, we're going for high quality women. Hopefully, to you, high quality means intelligent.

I will not talk to someone who does not speak properly. However, there is a difference between casual conversation and writing a thesis for your masters. I'll forgive the occasional non-possessive before a gerund, but only if he's super cute :)

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ABSOLUTELY. Guys, you're all into this stuff not just to get ANY woman, we're going for high quality women. Hopefully, to you, high quality means intelligent.

I will not talk to someone who does not speak properly.
I complain here a little bit - this should only apply for native speakers. I know a lot of foreign womans and I would not say, they are less intelligent, because they doesn't speak 100% correct German. It's the same for my English ;-)


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ABSOLUTELY. Guys, you're all into this stuff not just to get ANY woman, we're going for high quality women. Hopefully, to you, high quality means intelligent.

I will not talk to someone who does not speak properly.
I complain here a little bit - this should only apply for native speakers. I know a lot of foreign womans and I would not say, they are less intelligent, because they doesn't speak 100% correct German. It's the same for my English ;-)
You are absolutely right. This does only apply for native speakers.

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I think I'm being fucked around with here! FALLON5 keeps on telling she's busy when I call her. BLOWING ME OFF! Giving me IOD's! Now, tonight I saw her at work. I was bring to the Customer Service desk a package of soap when I saw her. I was trying to ignore her but she looked in my eyes and gave a big smile. I'm a idiot for when people give me attention I go for it! Slap me please!

ME: Thanks for not calling me back! [Laughed]
HER: I didn't call you back?
ME: Uh, no! "I'll call you back!" (I mimic her).
HER: [Laughs] I'm sorry!
ME: Shut up-no your not!
HER: I am! [Laughs]
ME: Yeah, whatever!
HER: [Laughs]

She knew what she was doing and she knew it bothered me. I'm not that dumb com'on! But dumb enough to be puddy in women's hands.

Tonight I saw her smoking when I was pushing carts into the enterence. I was trying to ignore her but she stared at me and gave a big smile again.

ME: What are you looking at? [Smile]
HER: I'm just looking.
ME: I'm just fucking around with ya.
HER: I know!
ME: You think you know!
HER: I know, you just told me! [Smiles and a giggle]
ME: I know I'm just messing.
HER: [Laughs} I know!
ME: So why did you keep on letting me go?
HER: I went to a liquor store and bought some alcohol.
ME: Ohhhh...that's nice. [Left to do work]

ZIp-slap me the hardest you can for being a idiot! PLEASE! LOL! I need a good smack to wake up and smell the coffee! I'm not into abuse but when I deserve it I do! If I pissed a woman off and she slapped me I'll back down instead of engage. I don't believe in hitting women it's one of my moral codes that is prohibited. I've stood eye to eye but never intended to harm her. I have racing thoughts but I shut down then disengage (back down by walking away).

I just have high morals that's all!

Later! Peace out!

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Hey everyone! Thanks for bearing with me... some really exciting stuff happening that I'll let you in on soon. I'm going to be answering these later today, so check back later :)

EDIT: alright guys, some crazy stuff is going on, but I'm not forgetting about you! Just letting you know these are going to have to wait just a bit longer. You guys are the greatest! Didn't want to leave you hanging.

aww your too kind zipboo :) Dont tell anyone that i told you this but i think your great too 8)


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Hi Zip,

I think you talked about this before

Telling a Hb that In 15 mins shes gonna be over in that corner getting all hot an heavy with you,

what stage do you think it would be good to throw that out there?

Thanks
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Hi Zip,

I think you talked about this before

Telling a Hb that In 15 mins shes gonna be over in that corner getting all hot an heavy with you,

what stage do you think it would be good to throw that out there?

Thanks
love you
I've been playing with the "called shot technique." Right now, I'm feeling that it belongs right at the end of A3. Then, either eject for a minute, come back, and go into C1 or isolate and go into C1, completely breaking apart from your "Called Shot."

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Zip what do you do when a girl is not playful?

okay first of all this is online sarging. Every other girl i talk to are playful and take things well meaning negs/cocky-funny/jokes etc..

There is this one girl that i know for some time. i used to talk to her and she was cool, she would answer joke around but now that is all changed!! Here is a few things i have noticed bout her. She doesnt get any comments from anyone meaning guys lol thats sad.. she is a 8 i would say, she has a big bitch shield, she think too highly of herself but ofcourse she doesnt mention it but i notice this from the way she talks and her pics/places she has been too with certun people.

One thing that realy makes her talk is when you trough a little compliment at her. She loves it when you talk about herself/ what she wears and how nice it is. She instently answers with a big smile loll.. Im not the type to cpmliment very often unless i feel she earned it or if its time and since that is the only way to comunicate, what do you think i should do??..

How do you go by deepening this relationship? maybe hang out/# close etc.. I have talked and tried to open here and once in a while she does but she usualy answers short, some times she answers long if yours asking like an opinion type question, but after she stats her opinion and the its my turn to do so, it seems she doesnt care or want me too i dont know its weired. I want to make her qualify herself to me :P.. i know most people would say drop it she is not interested, i know i want to learn how to overcome this issue, and i know its not because of my looks, she dates guys with my style ;) plus I mean look at me loll Now watch out im like a P**** magnet....you'll fall in love with me quick, some call it lucky, some call it americal but im know as "The irresistible man" 8) lol

a little help would be appreciated :mrgreen:

excuse the language :roll:
Okay,

This girl is screening herself out. This is why we do what we do... we're going for high quality women. This girl is not behaving like a high quality woman, and you're not going to be able to change her. This is like reversed-bad-boy-syndrome. You want to be the one to change her. Watch yourself.

If a girl is not playful, you can't make her playful. She's feeding off of your positive attention, and she's not earning it.

Dude, one thing you can do is call her out on it. Point blank. Call her out on not caring when it's your turn to give an opinion, the fact she vibes only off compliments, etc.

Then, give her a compliment. Then try bringing playful banter back into the mix. If she doesn't respond here after you've just thrown her a flip (which is designed to cut through her bullshit and make her vulnerable in a good, open way) then LET HER GO. You can cook a bad egg, but it won't make it any better.

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Impressive breakdown though (is that a smile on your face right now?), thank you very much. I asked you this same question in another thread, but I realised the answer actually belongs here - what literature, other than what you've already written on the subject, would you recommend for guys struggling with comfort? Could you provide your own perspective on what it actually is and how to achieve it?
Okay, Pickup 101. The stuff they put out is incredible. Also, the guys from the pickuppodcast are great. Just go to Pickuppodcast.com and download them for free.

Comfort is where I diverge from the Mystery Method completely. He's got the idea, but the real thing here is building rapport and moving into deep rapport. That's what makes her comfortable and interested without moving anywhere close to the friend zone.

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How to "keep in touch" with a girl with a boyfriend..

I dated this girl for a little bit (when I was AFC). We stopped dating and then a month or so later I began talking to her again. We got together once or twice, but I didn't pursue her that aggressively... A month or so later I asked her if she wanted to go to dinner.

She said:
"I would feel funny doing that because I've been dating someone for a few weeks"


I texted back to her (bigtime AFC):
"Call me if it doesn't work out and maybe we'll get together and see how it goes"

She says:
"Ok! Sounds good!"

Anyway, we text back and forth fairly regularly. (I mainly send her c/F texts.) She told me her relationship is already on the rocks-- She says her BF is depressed a lot and she has to cheer him up all the time .

I've persisted some in asking her out.. It's more like:
"I'm going to get some lunch. Want to come with me?"

But she won't budge as long as she has a BF, even though I drop "as friends" and "i'm glad we can be friends" periodically.

I feel like I could have had her back had I pursued her more when she was single.. You snooze, you lose, I guess. My question is, how do I keep in touch with her and periodically probe to see if she is still with him without sounding like a total chump? I think that she does still like me, but she's the shy type and it is highly doubtful she'll actually text me when they break up.

I understand "moving on," but I want to win this girl over because last time she knew me, I was AFC. Call it unfinished business.
Zip: I'd appreciate you perspective on this..

Just yesterday she texts me:

"Can I ask you a question? I need guy's opinion on something"

"What's up with a guy that is really affectionate at first and says he could see himself marrying me and then be distant and non affectionate the next week?

(she's been with him for about a month, I think)

I respond (AFC, I guess)

"Awful early for this, isn't it? You guys should still be honeymooning."

Then I say (AFC):

"I don't know this guy, so I cannot say anything definitive. However, you shouldn't blame yourself. It could be stress, family problems, or another woman, but it is not your fault."

She is shy and naive, and it sounds as though she has been played. How do I probe to find out when it is over, over and then gracefully swoop in to save the day without looking like a chump on standby for her

Thanks, Zip
Fuck waiting. Swoop in now. Tell her you're going out bowling/to a coffeeshop/whatever to get your mind off things. You know she needs to blow off a little steam too. She can tag along if she wants. Be aggressive but kind. However, act like your going out is completely independent of her joining you or not.

Don't be the guy who she can complain to, unless you're sharing some deep rapport. Just start your own game, or pick up with whatever stage you're at right now. Don't wait on this other guy, he's not worth your time.

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How Alpha of me would it be if I said

" I dont have a lot of time right now, im going on break but may i call you later"

vs

"Since you made me laugh today, You have the honor of calling me later"
The more alpha option would be the latter, however, whichever one you feel works best at the time is what you do. Just being "The Most Alpha Guy Ever" does not make you a PUA.

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