The purpose of a first date is NOT to spend a bunch of money. NOT to take her to the movies. NOT to do something boring. NOT to make her wish she had never come our with you, or worse, ever met you.

You don't want to set the wrong direction for any further dates either, by handling the first date the wrong way. This is a crucial concept that you HAVE to get down. If you open the relationship up by spending a lot of money on her, or by doing the same old stuff that every other guy would do, or things like that, you will NOT get far with the girl. And, the hotter she is, physically and mentally, the more that line moves back even closer to you, to the point of her just saying to take her home because your date is so boring. So, you HAVE to watch what you're doing right at the start.

So, below are some starter ideas. We'll build from there.

Mini-golf: What's not to like about this first date idea? You have PLENTY of opportunity for kino AND for all around fun. You can neg her, joke with her, DHV yourself if you're good at it, and show her your confident and comfortable with yourself.

Shoot pool: Much the same advantages as the Mini-golf. Both are usually cheap as well.

Starbucks: If you order yourself a water, this one can be cheap as well, and gives you plenty of time to talk, tell stories, DHV yourself, get to know her.

Park: If the weather is warm, this is a beautiful option. Outdoors, green grass, trees, You can throw frisbees, play volleyball, play tennis or basketball if those courts are available. Plenty of opportunity for kino, again, and for joking around. You can bring an appetizer or some snack too. And, you can see her in a summer dress or shirt skirt. What more can you ask for?

Mall: Walking the mall is free. And you can bounce from store to store, getting to know her, what she likes and dislikes, neg her, DHV yourself, more opportunity for kino.

Bar: If you both are old enough to go to a bar, you can sit and have a couple of drinks. You can get to know each other a bit, if there's a dance floor, you have much room for kino.

Musuem: These are usually free, or by donation. There are plenty of topics to talk about. Plenty of opporunity for building kino, for having fun, negging her.

Zoo: Walking time. Picture opportunities. Kino opportunities, holding hands while walking. Make fun of each other around the animals, neg her. All kinds of cool stuff can happen here.

Walk on beach/river front: Walking, holding hands, talking about each other, watching the water, the sunset if walking at that time. Feeling the breeze coming off of the water. And free.

Bowling: Kino opps, neg opps, general joking around, and usually cheap.

Wine tasting: I personally don't know much about this one, but have been told it's a good one.

Skating: Cheap, especially if you have your own skates. Good excersice. GREAT opps for kino. For negging.

Ice Cream Shop: Who doesn't like going to get ice cream? Time for talking, some kino. Cheap.

Botanical Gardens: Again, I don't know anything about this one personally, but have been told it's good.

Board game: If you can make her feel comfortable enough to join you at your place for the first date, and you're not in seduction yet, break out a board game and have some fun, great EC, kino, negging. Free. Or, take the board game to the park.

Card game: Same as above with board game.

Hiking: Doesn't matter if you're an avid outdoors person or not, you can both go hiking on trails in parks. Great opps for kino, cheap if not free, time to talk, get to know each other, etc.

Volunteer: Volunteer for some local event, or for some local charity. You'll give your time for free, but have opps for kino and joking around, getting to know each other.

Ice Skating: Usually cheap, especially if you have your own skates, and as with the other skating, PLENTY of kino opps, negging opps, general fun times and getting to know each other.

Decorate together, for the season: Have her to help you put up some seasonal decorations. You'll have great fun together, you'll see her creativity and she'll see yours, and great opps for kino.

Fly kites together: Hmmm, windy days, warm weather, blue skies, kite's flying, kino opps . . . need I say more?

Dance in the street together: Taken directly from the movie "The Notebook". Take the girl out into the street, turn some music on in your car, and start dancing. Simple as that.

Create a scavenger hunt for her: How much cooler can you get than setting up your own personal scavenger hunt for her to complete, in order to get a prize at the end?

Feel free to add more ideas to this thread. That's what it's here for.

Just keep in mind the "guidelines" we're going by. CHEAP if not free, opps for fun, opps for kino, opps to get to know each other, and DIFFERENT things. Not the same old date stuff that every AFC does.

Those are some awesome ideas, im all about trying out the zoo i feel like that would work amazingly. I just figured i'd add one i like to use. I live by the beach and i find theres nothing better than taking a girl surfing on the first date. Its essentially free if ya got an extra board, the opportunity for Negs is basically endless especially if shes a beginner, and kino (i like using kino is the water by squirting some water at her or tipping her off the board). Good exercise and its always fun to lay on the beach afterward watch some clouds and get to know each other.

Excellent ideas L.A. Trip. In a city that has nothing but expensive dating locations it's good to have a list of cheap/free ones.

Thanks again.

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I have a few more of these types of dates that I use all of the time...

GoKarts - A great adrenaline rush, however you must time-bridge to a quieter place after the race to continue your game (relatively cheap)

Cooking Session - Many restaurants offer FREE cooking sessions with chefs as a promotion for the venue, just check local ads and papers...you both get to cook a gourmet meal together, meet other people (great oppurtunities for DHV), and enjoy conversation

The Gym - depending on the type of girl you are taking out obviously, I know many would stay away from this, athletic girls absolutely love the gym, especially if you are somewhat fit and can show them a thing or two, I took a girl and showed her how to do lightweight squats one time, we get a healthy lunch after and the next morning she was texting me how she couldn't feel her ass and how she needed a massage

A Nature Preserve - They are all over the place, very adventurous, perfect time to walk talk, direct her over streems (alpha DHV), etc. especially if you are the outdoors type


I am blanking on the other ones I had in mind, but also remember to use your friends and family members if you want to be money conscious. Ask connections for tickets to things that might be expensive that they may or may not be using, you can always get many free things or VERY cheap adventurous options this way.

I'm very much into tailoring my approach to the type of girl I'm focused on.
Assuming I've already gotten her to where I can ask her out and am sure she'll say yes...

Suppose I'm looking for a punk rokcer girl. Well the polo goes in the closet and the tight black tee comes out, and the first date is a cheap show where we can dance and mosh, aka mass kino ahoy. Plus I look better than a bunch of grungy ass teenagers but still appear to be a bucket of fun. Kiss her after a "love song" and play with the whole emotional memory mumbo jumbo of it. She'll be digging you.

Suppose I'm looking for an art house chick. i dress nicely, take her out for breakfast then a walk through a nice old seaside neighborhood full of classy architecture and shoot the shit. Walk her down by the water and kiss her on the dock.

Suppose I know an incredibly sarcastic and shallow girl. Total HB but she doesn't fit a big stereotype except that she has a filthy sense of humor. Take her to the pool hall down the road, grab some burgers from the place next door and eat them in the car, parked across the street from a scummy strip club. Here we have lots of opportunity. In the pool hall you can neg her, let her win, build emotional response, while you aren't breaking the bank on her with a big mac, and totally laugh your ass off with her shallow sense of humor as you watch AFCs come and go from sleezyville strip club. Bonus points, you can pounce in this situation if you got her going right... build her up and tease her, ask her how are strippers different than her... could she do any better? Use your imagination, and this one is easy.

Sledding is good and free if you have the Sled.

In the same sense, stealing a garbage can lid on the spot and using it is free and spontaneous. shows her that you're fun and edgy.

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Im so glad I saw this list of great ideas. I had no idea what I was going to do TOMORROW. I was starting to worry that I was going to pick something bad like movies. (i.e. which is a bad idea if you didnt know yet)

going to a theater or inviting her over your house for a movie???

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I've got a great one:

Stand up comedy night

classic!

Im pretty limited to what i can do in my town so i normally always take them to a bar. But iv always wanted to take a girl ice skating or bowling.
Although i come from the land of shakespeare, i could'nt think of a more boring first date than the theatre. Maybe when im older hey, aslong as we got to go to the pub afterwards.

All these are great ideas! Not only for a first date, but places to take your girlfriend or even group of friends. The old 'dinner and a move' seems so cliche these days. But at the same time, it is a formal way to ask a girl out I suppose.

I read something on here that was great (I can't remember where I got it though). Somebody mentioned, "Invite a girl to an invent you would have done otherwise" (roughly paraphrased) such as buying a birthday present for your 13 old sister (I believe this was the example that was used). To me, this is casual, sporadic, and fun. Plus, the girl feels as if she is making a large contribution to your effort. Lots and lots of DHV points colored all over it!

Exactly Jay, that's the whole point. DHV, kino, having fun, etc.

The cliche aspect of the dinner and a movie scenario isn't the real problem. It's deeper than that. Of course, there IS the aspect of "it's what every AFC out there does", but there's also the fact that there's no talking, little if any room for kino, no interaction between you two, therefore no DHV spikes or fun directly associated with you, etc.

movie and dinner is the biggest afc thing in the world, it reaks of low confidence relying on the movie to entertain her. mind you if she wants to come to your house for a movie after the date has concluded you are in " it is pretty much code for lets get it on"

one of the places i go is wall or rock climbing. it puts each others lives in each others hands and builds tons of trust, you get to see how she looks in short shorts and there is kino, neg, and the whole bit. highly recomended

I'm just throwing out some random ideas here. I would think cloth shopping (could be cheap, if you don't buy anything or only a few items of clothes) and going to out for ice cream would be fun. Everybody seems to love ice cream, and if you got a big one that shared between you, it would seem that would be a good way to kino.

yeah I like clothing shopping to but don't buy her anything just window shop, for yourself and for her. I actually did that on my date tonight and it was followed by a sharing of some dessert and a wine. good times were had