I know its long but please read!

Well, the night started with me alone going to meet up with a friend who was out with a group of people I didn't know at a nightclub, so I knew it would be awkward for me because once I'm in a conversation with someone I'm usually fine but I'm a bit shy and starting a conversation is a difficult (something I need to improve, any tips?). My friend I was going to see (kate) has been trying to hook me up with her friend (becca) for a while now as Becca apparently likes me but lately me and Kate has been getting on really well and I thought that kate liked me which has gotten me confused as to why she introduced me to Becca again.

But the main thing I'm writing about is to try and decode how I somehow managed to get Becca attracted to me. We've awkwardly met before when thrown together and introduced by Kate but never got in the swing of things. So tonight as Kate disappeared and I was left with Becca and the rest of the people I've never met before, I felt I had to cling on to Becca so i wasn't standing around silently like a creep (i did start to talk to a few people as the night went on). After we started talking I made her laugh a bit (I can be pretty funny when relaxed) and we got on well except her friend gradually joined our conversations and we sort of became a group of 3 for the night and we all got on well.

This is where I got really confused, throughout the night there were a few things that I thought would put her off me and they didn't. I got her (becca's) number and later on i got her friends (has a boyfriend) but they asked me for myn and I was surprised and unsure and got clearly uncomfortable and didnt give her it straight away which I thought would make me look unconfident, out of control and weird. At one point her friend was sort of unwantingly getting hit and the 2 of them just seemed to automatically think I was incapable of defending them (it was very very brief, I didn't have time to tell him to leave) and they said they wanted the friends boyfriend there despite him being thin and a bit feminine physiqued (although he is apparently 6ft3-ish), but I'm 6ft1 and broard and a balanced combo of muscle and fat and they just didn't seem to think of me as capable to tell any threats to fuck off. The last thing is just generally throughout the night, we got on well but just sort of had general chat and I didn't do too much gaming and just stuck to basics such as trying to have confident body language and being the alpha male of the group if another guy joined in with us and didn't use any routines.
Thankfully we went to a club where a few people I knew either worked or went there so a couple of times in the night a friend would come over to me which would DHV me so this might be one attractive quality.

Any advice, guidance, help decoding this confusing attraction or even general input would be great!
Thanks guys

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Untill with two L's, excellent.

Anyway - you're such a wimp man. All this time "I don't know what this girl thinks of me . . . What if I . . . Maybe I should give her my number . . . Maybe I look uncontrolled if I do . . . Maybe I should have stood up for this girl . . . But then this only happened for a few seconds so what could I reasonably have done? . . . What if . . . What if they secretly want her boyfriend to come . . . But then, he's got a feminine physique . . . Oh God . . . GOD!! What must I do??? Maybe I left her alone . . . Maybe I shouldn't have talked to other people around here, maybe I made them feel ignored . . . But maybe, maybe I should have . . ."

You are such a pussy man. All this time wondering about what you should do while you already gave the answers yourself.

1. This shit happened in the blink of an eye, some guy bumping up to her. Who could have anticipated it? And in one flash it was over again.

2. If you talk to people it will make you seem more interesting for the girls.

3. One girl gets your attention, now the other wants your number. Basic girl-envy at work here. Wants to show her that you are not good boyfriend material.

What she does is this; wanting to make her friend feel inadequate. On the one hand playing with the unspoken thought you could be her friends new boyfriend. At the same time pointing out how her own status is much better because she can also get your number and her boyfriend would actually defend her . . . ETC.

This chick is on one big status trip with her friend and you as scapegoats.

Thanks dude.
I meant to say "hit on" instead of hit, basically a guy came up to her and smiled, awkwardly said hi, laughed then wondered off.
I guess your right I did sort of over think some parts and sometimes I was a bit of a pussy instead of manning up and going with basic instinct and thinking "who gives a fuck, i'll do what I want" instead of over thinking what would a PUA do in this scenario.
The strange thing is about the phone number is that her friends said I should give it to Becca which shocked me and led to my uncomfortable looking pussyness and I gave her it. Then later in the night when I was texting Kate wondering where she went, her friend sort of grabbed my phone and entered her number in her self with a bit of help from me showing her what buttons to press.
I also forgot to mention about this one guy that came over who was a better looking than me. Now I done the usual of not making my body smaller so he could fit in the group and instead taken up as much space as I pleased, I also tried to sort of keep in control of the group and make him sort of work for my respect but we just went head to head, I didn't want to look threatened by him so I stood my ground then BAM! "Are you gay?" He asked me (he was with a few gay friends and has suspicions about me which is why he asked, he is definitely straight and actually hooked up with 3 girls that night. One of which (a generous 5) was right in front of us) yet again I was surprised and unsure how I should react after a few seconds of shocked expression I think I deflected it ok-ish (without much style). But did this guy completely AMOG me?

What's your opinions guys? Thanks again Mr Marville

PS: Becca is probably a 6 or 7 with a naturally pretty face and ok body and hasn't stopped texting me since last night which is a bit clingy and I'm not sure if Im attracted to her or not

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Mr. Marville is your guide. If you listen to Mr. Marville, your soul might eventually survive the rapture. Or you'll go straight to hell, but at least had a great ride on your way there.

Okay, first of all, NO. Not "what should a PUA do?" what would YOU do. You have to act in accordance to your own character. That is the only way you can live Epically. If your character is that of a wimp, you have to accept it and make place for those people more qualified to take up the influential places within communities.

That is part of living Epically too. Not everyone can be a writer - we need readers, too.

Superficial flaky "what would society's politically correct social perception want me to do?" behaviour will only further diffuse our declining civilization.

So to get back to the bottom line: this chick voluntarily punched in her number on your cell. This means you will call her ASAP. And ask her to go get a drink or do whatever. How much trust with her did you build yet? If it's a lot you can ask her to come watch a DVD in your place and kino her. And order pizzas and make it nice. But big chance she'll flake so if it happens don't fret too much about it. Girls just flake because they do no longer need men. They are left to the whimsicalness of their own devices, as a result of society deconstructing institutions such as marriage.

This guy asks "are you gay?" -- "sorry to disappoint you buddy; how about me getting a drink to get you over it."

Make love to this clingly chick. Often. My advice - I am not shitting you - put her on her belly while doing so if you are not sure about how attracted you feel to her. Making love to her you will not regret. Being infatuated with sex gives you the power to be un-clingy and more resistant to losing yourself to emotions. This will improve your game.

Haha your one fucking weird guide.

I'm not really a wimp. I'm capable of taking charge and do it when directing scenes in college and when getting my points across in arguments. Im just usually relaxed and sort of happy go lucky and was caught off guard by getting asked for my number and if I was gay cause it doesn't happen much.

Loving your response to "are you gay?" Haha. Wish I could think of that at the time, I'll remember it incase I need it in the future.

Any other advice you can think of
Thanks again

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Advice? Yeah sure. Read a lot of literature. Like good books that were written 100 years ago. The classics. Those works have such powerful vocabulary and rich colourful descriptions that it will upgrade your thinking and speaking a lot. For instance reading a lot of literature will enable you to chat with girls more effectively because you can for instance describe a scene of love-making in a way that will turn her on. In general you come across as a highly intelligent person and not someone that can be pushed over. Some women are attracted to that, but especially being intellectual gives you the edge in any discussion, debate, etc, you become a higher quality person to converse with.

Make love to these chicks that offer themselves like this Becca chick. Seriously I can't stress that enough. You can always keep hunting. Women would do the same we all know it. If you have a steady sex partner, or simply just had sex recently you will be more confident, come across as more in control of your lot, and less needy. This makes you more immune to women's mind games.

Don't worry too much about what other people might think of you. Make friends. And then I mean people that you can rely on, and not just beer drinking sitcom buddies. Genuine friendships add quality to life more so than random pussy hunting.

Thanks for the great advice man.
I only really read educational pick up books, currently I'm reading The art of seduction by Robert Greene. Although I am interested in expanding my vocabulary and improving my writing as I do want to become a playwright so reading some great literature is probably something that will benefit me in both my game and career prospects.
Well, I'm still unsure about having sex with Becca. I think mostly due to nerves (and possibly her telling Kate, then Kate telling our Drama class) even though I'm sure she's a virgin and I am also pretty much a virgin after only reaching oral with my previous girlfriend (2 years ago) 'cause trying full sex was too painful for her so I think after 2 years of nothing I should really just man up and enjoy myself, especially as I'm 18 and will be leaving for Uni soon and even if I did fuck up then I may not see her in a few month anyway.
I've been thinking about asking her to go for a drive one night as she can drive and we can have a laugh and possibly go somewhere quiet and picturesque after somewhere else (any suggestions where?).

Thanks for the advice again, On behalf of me and everyone you've helped whilst becoming a dedicated member.
If you have any further advice that would be awesome haha just going to keep pushing my luck till your dry of advice I think.

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Even if it takes until the day I die, I will be able to pick up girls.

"Probably", he says; probably . . . !

All that suffices here is a deafening silence of Captain Obvious.

I am never dry of advice because - if everyone did exactly as I said, the world would be a much prettier place. However I find that most humans unfortunately cling to the concept of the autonomous self and are quite reluctant to give it up to me, much to their inefficiency.

Anyway, if you do it right it won't be painful for the Becca chick. Make sure to do the appropriate foreplay (kissing and caressing her everyone on her body), possibly lube her up, and don't go in all the way at once but take breaks of let's say 30 seconds as you go in so that her body can adjust to your presence. If you do it with tenderness yet insistence she will enjoy the experience. Make sure to give her some orgasms either through using your fingers or what else or else she will be reluctant about the sex in the future. She must learn this is something to be enjoyed.

Who cares if this shit leaks to your drama class! If people comment about it, just say nothing and stand in a self-assured and unmoved pose. And continue doing that which you think of importance.

Fair enough. What books do you recommend?

I used to use foreplay with my ex-girlfriend and gradually warm her up and it still hurt her too much and I had to try pleasing her without inserting anything (which assuming from her reactions, I done an ok job ). Is there anything else I can try?

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Even if it takes until the day I die, I will be able to pick up girls.

If you give her what she desires, without letting you in . . . Then you'll never get what you need. And you condition her in a certain way that does not benefit you.

Some good books:
Plato, The Republic, (for more info see the thread "learning philosophy").
Aristotle, Ethica Nicomacheia (best inner game book ever)
Frankenstein, by Mary Shelly, Very eruditely written,
Edgar Allan Poe, The Pit and the Pendulum, Berenice, Eleonora, a morning on the Wissahicon (some pretty good stories I recall)
Fantastic Four, books of Doom (if comics are your thing)
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged (if you lean libertarian)
Christopher Lasch, The Revolt of the Elites and the Betrayal of Democracy, (if you do not)

Machiavelli and John Stuart Mill are also worth reading.

Haha By the time I read them I'll be dead. Thanks for all the recommendations, I'll get started on reading them.
So what do you suppose I do?
(Ps. Still haven't seen her yet since the night out, I asked her one night I was free and she happened to be busy that night which sucked haha. Might see if she's busy tonight. Any first date suggestions? I prefer to stay away from the cinema because you can't interact when a films on and don't have too much money for an expensive meal, any ideas?)

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Even if it takes until the day I die, I will be able to pick up girls.

Just take her for a drink and then suggest doing a DVD night at her place or yours. If you build sufficient report during the drink you can kino later.

however this stuff is so basic.

Basically be perceptive if there's a green light, if so, don't mess up. And remember to keep reading. For instance tell her of the things you read in those books. I read 100 books at least and those books are really on the top of my list.

Neither of us have our own place at the moment and live with parents so I doubt we could just stroll up at hers and there's no way we're coming back to myn haha. But I would definitely do a film night later on as I've done one before and it's just perfect for kino. We're going our in a couple of days to stroll around, if the weathers good I'm considering a walk down the beach and maybe grabbing a drink somewhere, any good?

I'll definitely give them a read. Are they all about seduction? I'm currently trying to read monsters and magical sticks that I got from another post. My only problem is I run out of interest in books so quickly and never finish them. Think it took me several months just to finish the game and I even liked the way it was written as a story.

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Even if it takes until the day I die, I will be able to pick up girls.

The books are listed are not about seduction. They are about development of human organization, of virtue, knowledge and the workings of power, the rise and the fall of a civilization. If you can't finish a story you like, you probably won't finish any of these works.

But the point is that by reading them, you become a superior person, and thus all aspects of your life will be more interesting. The books I listed are one big push-back against the superficiality of our era.

Hey Marville,
Sorry about delayed reply, been busy.
I'm interested in sort of human psychology and social behaviour and anything that can improve the social/ game side of my life or anything that can benefit my life in general. Are any of these books wrote in a fun way or are not too long?

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Even if it takes until the day I die, I will be able to pick up girls.