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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:10 pm 
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Let me just start with saying this forum is excellent! I've been a long time lurker and am very VERY thankful for stumbling upon this gold mine of PU. Anyway, I don't consider myself newbie or an AFC because when it comes to girls I will approach ANY one I want too, but I'm still not that skilled. I've been told I'm good looking but come off as weird, and trust me this forum helped that change.

Anyway, that was just a background to get to what I'm really asking for. I have this one-itis, and let me tell you, this isn't your average HB10. She has the whole package in terms of looks AND personality, literally I have guys that I know in school be like "GOD DAM" and "SHES CHILL AS FUCK TOO YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW." Thing is I went out with her about a year ago, but it was VERY short lived (as in a week) because a jealous ex of mine told her all this bullshit to keep me away and she believed it. She is a shy girl, with a small inner circle and a small outer circle who is actually prude. She is the awkward one that, once you get to know her, she is actually an awesome person! Long story short, she told me she liked me but she would rather have me as a friend, and I find out about my ex lying 3 months later when it was too late.

So in those three months she would not even look at me, and I was like :? :?:. One night I call her out on it, and she BLEW up on me to the point where I couldn't stand her insults any longer and insulted back. I didn't say anything that would completely end all things between us, the worst thing I said (she told me this btw) was that she is a beautiful girl but was also very stupid. She took that personally.

Anyway fast forward to February of this year. She had a boyfriend for 3 months over the course of the summer, and we made up and all that shit. Now she texted me everyday, from sunrise to sunset and started 90% of the convos. She even flirted with me and I shit you not, once set me 100 messages over night to try and wake me up. She apologizes for all that, she said she didn't mean it. But sometimes our convos ended with us talking about us being together, and she always replied "we should be friends." Then one of those times she tells me things like: "there were times when I had these impulses, that I liked you again" and "but your going to college" and finally "yea some of my friends don't like you [because of the fight] but that doesn't mean I'll stop talking to you." This was our last conversation and honestly I can't remember how I ended that convo, well because I've been getting wasted lately.

Now we finally fast forward to present time. Now she went back to not even looking at me. I see her everyday, and everyday I get some douschebag saying something like "she is so fucken hot" not knowing that I could've been all over that like white on rice. I've talked to all my friends that are girls and they are literally perplexed themselves. So should I go for it or forget it, and if I do go for it what on earth should I do.

ps. thanks for reading this much, I live in a small town and everyone grows up with eachother (we are the class of 2013, and all 100 of us have been together since kindergarden), so I don't have many options. I have gotten with plenty other girls so don't take this as the typical post for "get me this girl" bullshit. I just wanna know what the experts think because I genuinely still care and because some friends of mine say she must still like me. Thanks for reading this far!


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:01 am 
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i have friends like that, like they are good looking but they come off as wierd. my tip for them is that they need to slow down. maybe that helps you.

regarding the girl i think the only way you might have a chance is if you do the following.

so with this types of situations, the only way to make it happen is for it to feel like it just happened to the girl.
you have the first half done already by having hooked up with her and by having a drama filled relationship. the last thing is good cuz it helps you avoiding to get really deep in the friendzone. what you need to do now is two things:

1) change the image she has of you.
2) set the enviroment for it to happend naturally.

1) now im not sure how this relationship really went, how the girl is, or what your ex actually toled her. for this to be acurate i would need that info.
what i can suggest you do is to run the cube rutine on her, as its intimate and also you should pay very close attention to her description of the hourse. pay really close attention to its attitude, to its mood, to its relationship with the ladder and with the cube itself. learn who her ideal men is. this will help you to fulfill your first objective: her image of you is broken. you need to surprice her with a side of you she's never seen.

this is when i would need more info, you can pm me if you want to discuss this further, but depending on what your ex toled her, you should show her something that either proves she was lying or something that makes up for that.
for example if your ex toled her you are a player, you can show her how close you are to your family and how well you treat your people. this way you are showing her that you are not selfish, that even though it might be true that you slept with other woman it was because of something sircumstancial and that your identity is not defined by that, that you are a very caring person, etc.
see how this is sutile? you are not attacking directly what your ex said, you are showing her something she didnt know about you and letting her get to her own conclutions.
when you do this its important that you dont mention either what your ex said or the fight. dont make it obvious that what you are doing is to change her view of you. make is casual!

2) this is the only practical way i think you can make it truely happen. so you have showed her a side of yourself that she didnt know. you gave her a little time to digest the new info and start to wonder if what she thought you were truely is the deeper you. she wants you but she's not sure. she still is more confortable to be your friend.

just as a side note: before you can do any of this things you need to befriend the peergroup. in social circle this is not an option: if her friends dont like you you have a million points against you. it doesnt mean its absolutely imposible, and it depends on the girl but if her friends dont aprove, you make it a million times harder for it to happen. if you are that serioud about this girl you will have to do step 1 with her friends too.
again, depending on what your ex toled her, it might be better for you to do this with them individualy, or you might be able to do it to them all at the same time.

so you need to make it so it happends naturally. it could be set in a small party, or a club, depending on you, and you need to do this very sutely.
it would be great if at the begining of the party you were with her, chatting a bit, and then left and talked to your friends for a while. when you are with her be cool, and when you leave let other AFCs crush and burn trying to get her.
ideally, after she regects one of them, you come and "rescue her" from that guy. say something like come, lets dance, or come with my friends or if its calibrated take her for a walk. there be cool, let her talk and joke arround. then from there on i guess you have enough experience hooking up, from what you toled us.
at one point stop if you went for a walk, and get closer to her. she will but up resistance and say we should just be friends, as you get to the "im about to kiss you" position. great line to use here is "im not going to kiss you". build up that tension, dance with her a little, and go for it. say the line a few times if the resistance continues.

hope this helps bro.

Jason.

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:10 am 
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and when i ment change her image of you, i ment not throw stories, she has to widness the real you in motion. in the example of the family, you need her to see how you interact with your family. maybe inviting a couple of your friends and her to a barbecue at your please, and asking her to help you make the salads with your mom or anything of that kind would be good.

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