have not had a wank in nearly two weeks. i have felt alot better and my game improves drastically. i think it's just more natural desire to game women if you keep the testosterone in. i have more energy and have am alot more confident and chatty around girls after a few days without wanking. the only problem is that it's only been 2 weeks and in them 2 weeks i have already had 2 wet dreams.

this may sound like a stupid question but does having a wet dream lower your testosterone levels much. because i find i can easily get hard straight after a wet dream which i can't do straight after wanking???

I don't know about the testosterone levels, and I don't think your ability to have a boner is linked to your level of testosterone... Having that said, wet dreams don't affect me as masturbation does. Still a mystery to me...

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I agree .

You don't see alpha lions or tigers wanking off do you. or any animal i think of actually. humans are the only animal to masterbate. so you could say that looking at the bigger picture that masterbation is un-natural and we are the odd ones out. so cut out masterbation to get back in touch with your basic animal instinct, HUNTING GASH!!!

But If you get laid you will lose the testosterone as well so if your game is not good don't wank but if you have no problems essentially its like you just get laid alot....

Totally agree. Plus not wanking actually improves my game tenfold

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I definately feel much better since giving up porn and masturbation. It definately causes you to be too anxious if you do it all the time.

Though it's a good idea to do stuff such as kegels or the 'deer exercise' at the same time.

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Yeah, I definitely agree with with the kegels quote.Still practicing kegels, but I feel that I last much longer when I do them regularly.The best way to keep up with kegels are making it a habit to do them while waiting at stop lights-if you drive.What are deer exercises?

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Amen Incubus. I completely agree.

It's nearly been two months since I've done either one, and I now feel so confident, relaxed and comfortable in my own skin. I feel like a KING!

I've done some research on the whole porn/masturbation issue and I found 8 reasons to stop masturbating to internet porn:

1) Internet porn saps you of precious energy – When you give up the porn and the endless masturbation sessions you have a lot more energy and drive. You’ll want to get out and take care of business. You’ll want to make money, you’ll want to hit the weights, and you’ll want to go and talk to that cute little blonde in the cereal aisle – and you just may have blue balls enough to do it.

2) Internet porn can lead to erectile dysfunction – Keep at it and eventually you will only be aroused by internet porn. Right now guys in their TWENTIES and even guys in their TEENS are having trouble getting hard without porn. They have to keep finding more and more disgusting and outrageous porn scenes to satisfy their hunger. Eventually nothing will do it but seeing a naked Asian guy butt fucking a dog. That’s serious business. Keep up with the porn and it will happen to you too.

3) Internet porn will make you will want to stop having sex – Why bother with sex when you have every fantasy in the world available at one of your hands? Japan is a notoriously porn friendly country. Japan is saturated with porn. In Japan there is an entire culture of young guys called “Herbivores”. These herbivores have no desire for sex. All this porn and now the guys don’t want girls; they want sex with their hand, or sex with robots or nothing at all. Japan now has the lowest birthrate in the world. Can you see the connection?

4) After you stop masturbating to internet porn your voice may become deeper – Straight from the horse’s mouth, this is what guys who have stopped masturbating are saying happens.

5) After you stop masturbating to internet porn you will have more self control and will power – I’m telling you from personal experience you just plain feel better and stronger and more masculine. It’s the opposite feeling after masturbating to internet porn.

6) After you stop masturbating to internet porn your Testosterone will raise – Testosterone is slightly higher when abstaining from orgasm. And it does rise slightly during sexual activity—before dropping back down to normal. Having sex with a real life girl increases your testosterone while having sex with your hand and sitting in front of a computer with 5 different pages open decreases it. I know this to be true from experience. Maybe you have too.

7) After you stop masturbating to internet porn you will become calmer, more rational, and less anxious.

You will become more attractive to women - Let’s assess the situation. Who do you think women find more attractive?

A) Guys who spend their time in the dark, jacking off to endless streams of porn, finish after about an hour, take a nap, finally make it out in the sunlight (or not) and can’t even look them in the eye or…

B) Guys who don’t spend their time playing with themselves for hours are full of testosterone, not having spilled their precious seed twice that day, have a deeper voice, and have the ability to make eye contact.
You see where I’m heading with this, right?

TIP: The first 7 days abstaining from masturbation & porn will be the hardest. Especially
day 5, 6 and 7. But once you’ve reached day 7, you’ll be so horny and oozing with
animal magnetism that either women will start to check you out and approach you
or you’ll have the balls to go talk to them. Possibly both!

- Drummer.boy

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Yep I definately agree with all of those reasons Drummer Boy. If you've been looking at it so long it's hard to notice until you give up.
At first when I gave up I lasted way longer, but then after a while I didn't at all which was annoying, but that's improved after doing these exercises.

The deer exercise is a taoist thing. I learnt it from this ebook http://www.yangtown.com/ebooks/revive-y ... book/#read

It just adds on a bit more to kegels to make it more effective.

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Thanks!

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Well, I think that if u masturbate and then approach a girl its much better because u just had pleasure and ur mind wouldn't be desperate to fuck her.....
So, its good not make masturbation a habit but its good to release the stress sometimes doing it....

I agree on the fact that for some people work and for some just don't.

I personally tried both methods, and chose to wank only one day a week, which is saturday night in the case i don't get any chick. For me it just works because i feel powerful and full of energy and sexual energy all week and i feel waaay more motivated to be social, it just works, the only disadvantage of this technique is that its not always easy to not wank, practice, practice, practice, you're doing this for some higher target and for me means enjoying more life

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I totally agree

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