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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:50 am 
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Okay so I work Saturday nights as a photographer and I seem to get much more attention doing this than I do in my normal outings in public - I've put it down to me having to be smiley, chatty and friendly but also cause I have a sort of authority position in the club.

I obviously have an easy opener with anyone "Can I take your picture?" but I'd like to move it on so I can get them to see me as more than the guy with the camera. Any ideas for lines or moves I could use while I'm working.

My work are pretty relaxed they don't have a problem with me spending half an hour chatting to customers as long as they have enough photos up on facebook the next day etc.


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Well with you having a presence of authority you're kinda DVH the place as you move around.

But on the other hand, I think if you start out with your business frame could prove to be tricky to transition.
(Depending on if your selling them stuff, or just uploading the pics to Facebook for free as promo - People generally have their guard up when it comes to parting with their cash).

Personally, when I'm on a night out, the shooter girls can start to annoy me even though they are obviously attractive.

The other thing to ask yourself is, are you willing to mix business with pleasure although I know it is a little different.


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I just sarged with my buddy who is a photographer. The camera makes for a great prop/wingman. Girls will see you snapping photos and come to you to pose, or let you come up to them and take some pictures. But they'll just think you work there and treat you like an employee of sorts.

If you really want to game these girls and number close, you need to put the camera down, or let it hang around your neck. Keep your hands off of it or in your pockets. Use your body language to say "Ok, I'm done taking pictures for the time being and now we are just talking like people."

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:05 pm 
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I am selling but I'm pretty laid back about it I have another job so this is more of a hobby. I'm never push for sales although people often don't realise that and look quite confused when I just stroll off and move on cause I know some camera guys can be pushy when they need the sales.

Like the advice about putting the camera down or round my neck as a way of them seeing me as more than an employee. I often get asked by people if they can photograph me (which I hate cause it means handing my camera over to a drunk person) but I like having my photo taken with all the girls I meet in town haha.

Anyone think of a line I can use when someone says "Can I have a photo with you?" or "Can I take a picture of you?" (I don't get the ones where they want a photo of just me but hey :L )


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Like the advice about putting the camera down or round my neck as a way of them seeing me as more than an employee. I often get asked by people if they can photograph me (which I hate cause it means handing my camera over to a drunk person) but I like having my photo taken with all the girls I meet in town haha.
It has to be said if you can get your pic taken with you being the only male in a HB group then you'll be leaps and bounds ahead of some guys in online game (Instant social proof) :P

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I've had a little bit of a ponder, to pull together a line or two - I've never been in this situation before so I don't know how this would go down in field, but its food for thought:

Just proceed with your normal opener like you're just doing your job, then if they don't want the photo its cool with you - If they do want a photo then do what you have to do and give them their photo/key ring then start to end the 'business' interaction.
Start to disengage the target/group (turn 45° angle, like you're just about to leave) take one small step away, then do a double take and re-engage your target with something like:-

"You know what... I don't normally do this, but there's something about you I can't quite place..."

HB: "Oh? What's that?" (Or another generic response)

Then don't tell her why directly, but tell her that there's something you noticed about her, such as her dress or jewellery, but try pick something that will normally be overlooked, so feel free to be creative, just ensure you are not over-compliment her - It should come across congruent as you most likely have good attention to detail and you're dealing with lots of people.

See how it fluffs out from there, if you want to stay, drop a 'false time constraint' - you have to get back to work soon (its genuine but still a FTC), but continue the interaction.

That will give you a easy transition into another topic of conversation.

When you're ready to leave, recall your FTC "It's been great talking to you, but I have to get back to work... I tell you what... *go for your phone* Give me your number and we can hang out sometime"

*Assume the close and give her your phone in her hand*

Just be selective when using this, you don't want a previous target seeing you using this exact same routine on someone else.
Also as puaninja mentioned before, keep those hands off that camera ;)


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I was thinking you could go the model route. Tell them they are very photogenic and asked if they've ever modeled. Every girl wants to be a model and will be flattered. Tell them that you do some modeling portfolio work on the side, or you have a colleague that might be interested in girls with her unique look. Then that gives you an excuse to continue on and pepper her with compliments about how pretty she is, how nice her hair is, how beautiful her body is. She'll be taken in by all of that. There are so many photographers that have ended up with real models for this very reason.

Just make sure to be building attraction while you do this, and put more emphasis on the "you and her" interaction rather than getting into the specifics of whatever modeling aspirations you are alluding to. Then if she ever asks later about the modeling stuff, just tell her you called your buddy and he doesn't have any open gigs for her but you'll let her know. Hopefully you will have already smashed by this point.

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I was thinking you could go the model route.
I'm glad you mentioned this one as it did cross my mind but it's not my style as I try to run more natural game, but this would certainly work on certain women.
The only personal flaw I have with that, is getting her hopes up and not being able to deliver, but that's just my morality.


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Ye I think i'd feel a little bad leading them on with a false promise, although I do have mates doing photography at uni who need models but they wouldn't get paid haha :L

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You don't have to tell them you are a photographer for Wilhelmina or anything like that. The main thing you are trying to do is make them feel special compared to the other girls around them, like you see something in her you don't see in others. You definitely don't want to give her the impression that you'll make her the next Cindy Crawford. That's why you might want to say you have a friend who "might" be interested so it comes across as very up in the air. Remember, it's just a ruse, and you don't want to make it into some big, complex lie. It's just a clever way to get the girls attention so that you can flatter her with compliments so that you can eventually get into her pants. Yes, it is a little underhanded, I realize that.

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