Hey,

I recently moved and manage to number close with a HB8.5 from a class. With smooth moves which allowed me to have lunch with her and walk her home, on the day we met. She also took my number instead of me asking, and she texted me first. Lots of interest from body language and conversations.

Mistake#1 - I hand-shaked at the end. - I am still hung up on being a gentleman.

Seeing my mistake of not acting, I called her the same evening asking to meet for a movie. I did not specify it was a date. She hesitated saying she has something up at night but manage to make time and meet me for it. She made herself free the following evening and met with me, though reminding me she had a party afterwards with her girls night out.

End of movie, she needed to rush back to her party. I manage to close with a hug.

Mistake#2 - Asking if she was seeing anyone (in a casual manner) and also constantly driving her home - since we were in same classes on certain days. (2 days in a week - gave me opportunity to talk )

Her response was "I am seeing someone sorta...it is not serious.. he is too young". Also she shared with me about her ex-boyfriend and says its completely over now. So I'm taking this as a hint.

Her text messages contains smiles. She replies within the hour. And she usually has made most of the outings I've planned - until recently with her excuse being "studies". It seems to be her common excuse to anything - but I do still manage to convince her to have a drink at least. ( since i drive her home, and a shop is near by )

So right now,

1) I have definitely DHV, as I drive a nice car, I do really well in classes (study-wise) and showed I was always positive no matter what the out come was. I was never shy and showed huge confidence. Also I am naturally chivalrous, and she seems to love the attention.

2) I have escalated kino, touching her hair, hand and hugging is easy. Her hugs, she goes for my neck not around my arms or anything. So it feels close and personal.

3) Her deep gazing is somewhat diminished - not as strong as the first day i met her. But conversations are still going strong. She plays with her hair a lot, and blushes to my flirt/compliments.

So, we meet constantly and are mostly alone

a) I have not met ANY of her friends ( besides classmates )
b) Her stories seems disjointed ( especially regarding parties and friends) - I cannot figure her out
c) sends me mixed signals of attraction
d) she seems demure but has a hidden(party/flirt) side

1) I want to avoid friend-zone
2) Am I being used for the free rides home? ( i've blown her off a couple of times - due to work)

How should I act to show her I like her (i think its obvious), should I just go for the kiss after the hug? Sometimes I feel she just wants to fuck, sometimes she just wants that free ride home at at times she just seems uninterested. Is this her trying to play hard-to-get? Tomorrow I will be meeting her for a 1-on-1 study and of course a ride home for her. Should I blow her off on the ride?

Ask me any questions for details.

*She is 21 and i'm 24
*Both in a University with 2 same classes
*Known her for 1-2 months now
*Not many friends (we share this in common )

Need help fellas. I am trying to not get ONEITIS! I still walk confident but this girl's got me thinking! Should I act (physically with a kiss) and get it over with? If I should act - how?

Thanks in advance my fellow men!

Problem: You think this girl you see quite often is using you for free car trips to and from work and such.

Solution:

TRY.

TO.

FUCK.

HER.

If she starts some bullshit "I didn't see you like that" then freeze-out and move on either:

a) she will come crawling back.

b) she won't and you can move on.

Guys gets friendzoned because they don't alpha/don't try to have sex with the girl. You can't blame a girl for not having sex with you if you aren't even trying to have sex with her.

what should I do?
I think I can feel the moment - but what course of action?

I have never tried entering someone else's space without consent, hence makes me a AFC. Hah!

Just get her round yours then kino then physically escalate then get her into bed then fuck her.

ill try... thanks for the advice.

I know I will make a move soon to avoid dipping into the friendzone. Using words to tell her might not do it I think. Actions will speak my words.

Any suggestions for car kino escalation to a kiss?

Like the previous poster said, escalate and calibrate your actions by her reactions to your escalation. If she stops you or says something "punish her" or freeze out. And take it from there.

Good luck! Cheers

Noooooooo! Do not punish her for LMR or saying No! Step back and adjust, then try again. Say things like "Yeah, we should totally stop!" Then 20-30 seconds later, start kissing her again and move forward. Until she gets up to leave the room, she is still on the table for sex!


Peace...

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Most of the advice is pretty accurate, I think it all comes down to your escalation sucking balls, the reason she's still interested (based on your story) is the constant confidence and your way of communicating, which makes you attractive to her.

It's pretty obvious that your next step should be to make a move brother, dont just focus on the sex part solely, go in for a kiss, a kiss will tell you alot about her state of mind, if it's deep and intense (french kissing) and booya, you're gonna get laid if you man up. If it's a slow, intense kiss, she's really into you, sex might happen, but atleast you've shown that you go for what you want.

You ever think she has lied to you about having a boyfriend?? she might be honest but perhaps she feels guilt or is hiding something from you?? sounds like she might have a change of feeling toward someone...mabey her ex, mabey the guy she was dating, perhaps she is honest.

Do you have her on facebook? this is an easy way to see how honest she has been with you...if she has it open to the public you can quickly see if she has a boyfriend or a man in her life, if not then add her.

I have been around women who told me "I talk to my ex but we are done" or "I am seeing someone but its not serious" and then come to find out they have been with that person for 3 years lol women can be sneaky like that!

thanks for the great advice guys!!!! really appreciate the support!!
But the FUCKING Problem lies with me!!!

I manage to get her to come my place after class (even though it was a 40 min drive!!!!!!!)

At my place we started studying. I did not escalate or anything, just really close proximity with the computer and discussion. Nothing intense, purely work. FUCK MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE for not escalating. I felt no connection but simply talking and work oriented. I did not get any vibes, nor did I create any. I also have an annoying cat that meows every 2 minutes, who is old and incapable of moving - so its quite a distraction.

After an hour, giving her advice on her paper, I asked to have dinner/lunch to wrap it up. But, she takes her phone and says her boyfriend wants to meet her soonish. At the end of the conversations, instead of eating out, i cooked her an meal. FUCK.....

She dropped hints of "if I were to leave anything here you'd be like a 2nd boyfriend.".... What the fuck??? I dropped her home feeling like shit.

This is the 2nd time that this has happen to me. I always have girls who are somehow attached, and I cannot make a move through some MORAL or FEAR of losing the friendship (which I shouldn't really care about).

She did mention to have me over next time and she will cook for me instead.

man i feel like a fag... but the reason was not only I saw very little attraction and sexual tension ( as i did not create any )

advice? or is this game over?

1) should i just cut my losses - tell her straight up to choose
2) since I know she has a boyfriend, I'll tell her I'm getting to close to her, so its time for me to step back ( this is the gentlemen response )
3) hang around till i sneak that kiss and be her dirty little secret?
4) kiss her straight up and see what happens and leave - if outcome is bad
(through some kino games)

Honestly, I have nothing to lose here - except maybe my pride of losing a HB8.5, who might potentially be available.

Man, I've heard some excuses in my time...

You've got to just bite the bullet brother! The worst she can say is "ew, get off me, you're disgusting" and is that so much worse than the constant frustration you're dealing with now? I'm pretty sure she won't say that either. I reckon she's testing you with the comments about her boyfriend, she wants to wound your pride so you'll man up and actually act!

Just kiss her! I don't care how awkward it feels, you owe it to yourself after all the effort you've put in!

Thanks shotgun,

I do feel at times she is waiting for me to act. But most of it seems like she just being really friendly - i always ask myself which girl would come to a guy's place to "study" when she has a boyfriend!!

I'll go with your advice, however, is there any approach to it? Or just simply after class (heading to my car - which is a definite), grab her and do it? Kino escalate with games and then do it? How?

I dunno man, when you're at a point of having good rapport, wait for a lull in the conversation and then say "actually I've just remembered there was something I forgot to give you" then lean in and kiss her!

Or if you're parked in the car and sitting side by side, wait till she's looking away and then gently pull her chin so she's looking towards you, hopefully she'll give you this look of anticipation, then go for it (if she looks at you like "what are you doing?" maybe don't).

Or...start a playfight with her, steal her book while she's trying to study and tell her she can't have it back, hold it out and get her to try and grab it off you, then hopefully she'll start trying to wrestle you for it, then you're suddenly holding each other at close proximity and it should just seem natural...

To be honest though, it doesn't matter how you do it as long as you do it. She knows you're a guy and that it's a possibility you'll try and make a move, so even if she isn't HOPING for it I doubt she'll be shocked...

Good luck man, get it done!

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How about, you put 1 goal in your head.

To touch her.
Talk to her, and so on...you hug?...where are your hands?

But aside from that, If a girl wants you, and you can have her come up put 1 goal in your head and just do it.

Touch her...hold her hand, hug her from behind, move your head right next to hers..your cheek touching hers...your hands on her stomach, talk slowly...kiss her on the neck once.

See how she reacts, continue if it's okay with her, whisper into her ear lightly, move your hands up her shirt a little, if she resists, slow down, keep your hands there but speak more, get her attention somewhere else, kiss her neck more, let her feel your warm breath on her neck tell her her hair smells nice, as you move a hand higher on in her shirt. If she's okay with it, just kiss her on her cheek...if you see she tilts her head a bit, its okay, just keep your head right next to her head, your cheeks should be touching.

Move hands up a bit more...see how she reacts and continue...then is there a bed near you? a couch? a chair? ...you're hold her, so why not just move yourselves and sit on the bed with her on your lap. continue as above...then just go in to kiss her.

Then continue kissing, move your hands around hear shirt and so on...now it'll get hotter for her. then basically go in to take her shirt off a bit, continue kissing and so on...then well....

THAT's it...you should know the rest...

To fix your problem...just do what I said above...& below
JUST TAKE ACTION...touch, hug from behind...speak, cheek close to hers...kiss neck, hand in shirt..kiss, whiper into ear...move hands higher, feel her beating her, tell her that her heart is beating perfectly in sync, feel the beating hear, take her hand and feel it with her...sit on a couch or bed and you know the rest...

you can get her in your room...THERE IS NOTHING WRONG THERE...WHEN SHE IS IN YOUR ROOM...that is when you should just do what I said above...


Have fun. Just do what I said somehow when you get her into your room...or you in her room....and thats all you need.

You know what you are supposed to do...but you don't...

Just make a move. She wants you to make a move. She needs you to make a move.
It is engraved in our genes to reproduce, and have sex. It is in her to want sex as much as men do. It is within her head that you're in if you can get her in your room.

And it's within her that she she'd like you to be because it is within them as a whole to have fun, to feel the blood rushing through themselves, to feel the excitement, who doesn't like rollercoaster rides? Who doesn't like the cresting peaks? Who doesn't want to get on forever and stay and then release what it is that is within them in a flood of excitement and enjoyment.

She wants to have fun, so do you.
She wants to feel special..make her feel special.
She wants x..you want it too.
She wants y...you can give it to her along with x.

Dude...we are people, guys and girls, young or old want to have sex...and need to have sex...so give the girl what she wants, escalate, make a move OR ELSE SHE WILL FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO GIVE HER WHAT MANKIND WANTS AS A WHOLE.

Gl...you don't need it, just need action buddy!... READ THIS POST AGAIN, get it through your head and take action on it !