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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:14 pm 
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So I met this American girl last Saturday whilst I was on a night out with friends. I was introduced to her through a mutual friend. We got chatting, everything was going great so we decided to exchangenumbers and we would meet up.

I tx her that evening, and started having a good tx convo with her. We arranged to meet up on Friday but she then asked if we could change it to Saturday and asked if we could go for dinner then back to hers for a few drinks as she was having a house warming party and then to also head into to town after. I agreed to it and thought wow...quite forwardon her part but she seems keen :)

So as the week goes on I call her so we can get to know each other a bit more before meeting, she loved it and said how she thought it was old school and how nobody talks on the phone anymore.

Saturday comes round we go out for a great meal, I was all gentlemanly as I had a tip off that that is what she was after in a man. (I also was aware that she didnt believe in sex before maariage but she didn't really hide this.) I paid for the bill........didnt get a thankyou....drove back to hers still...no thanks at any point for taking her to dinner!
House gathering was great, chatted to all her friends, they loved me. She occasionally was complementing me saying how cute she thought I was. Ended up going to town, she was linking my arm when walking round the bars, had=nd holding through crowds...it was all going great.....Now this is when it went kinda weird

I told her that I had a place to stay so she didnt think Iwas assuming I was going to stay at hers. I walked her back home and went inside, she said I can sleep in the lounge but not in her room. So I tuck her into bed talk with her in her room, she then started looking really distant telling me she needs to clear a few things up in her head. She then tells me that she had been on a date with another guy she had met on the Friday when she originally was seeing me. She looked guilty as hell but told me she wanted to be honest. I said it wasno biggy as she was single so she could do what she wants and I told her that I too don't rule out meeting other people when not in a relationship. I then gave her kiss on the head and told her sheneeded to go to sleep asshe had work early...I leave the room.
Next thing her housemate tells me that she is calling me back into her room... So i go in we talk some more, again I excuse myself early enough trying not tolook like I want to hang around in her room. I kiss her on the head again and she says is that all I'm getting...pulls me in for kiss. So we lay there hugging and kissing a bit. I eventually tell her goodnight and sleep in her lounge.

Next morning I go wake her up for work. She insists that I stay at hers for a bit as she thinks I'm too tired to drive. She tells me that I can stay in her room and she will go to work.

Now she has gone cold, I tx her later that day saying what a nice evening it was she agreed and said she was defintly up for 'hanging out again' we havent really spoke much since over tx yet before she was really enthusiastic. I said I was going to call her today which she said was fine but she didnt pick uo!!

WTF!!!! Sorry this was so long winded but wanted to get evey fact down so anyone who is kind enough to reply gets the full picture.

What went wrong?? what should be my next step???

Thanks for reading


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:39 pm 
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Hi.

Man i'm tired just reading your super-long-text! :-D

Ok... some important quotes i noticed:

1-"...I tx her that evening, and started having a good tx convo with her..."

2-"...We arranged to meet up on Friday but she then asked if we could change
it to Saturday and asked if we could go for dinner then back to hers for a
few drinks as she was having a house warming party and then to also head into to town after.
I agreed to it and thought wow..."

3-"...So as the week goes on I call her so we can get to know each other a bit more before
meeting, she loved it and said how she thought it was old school and how nobody talks on
the phone anymore..."


4-"...Saturday comes round we go out for a great meal, I was all gentlemanly as I had a tip off
that that is what she was after in a man. (I also was aware that she didnt believe in sex before
maariage but she didn't really hide this.) I paid for the bill........didnt get a thankyou....
drove back to hers still...no thanks at any point for taking her to dinner..."


5-"...She occasionally was complementing me saying how cute she thought I was..."


6-"...I kiss her on the head again and she says is that all I'm getting...pulls me in for kiss.
So we lay there hugging and kissing a bit. I eventually tell her goodnight and sleep in her lounge..."


1-Why man? Take time, don't try to meet her right away. Let some time roll and show her that you have a life.

2-Again? She rearranges the date and you say right away that's ok? Like you dont't have a life and she's more
important?

3-Again? Still after her... calling her... trying to be with her all the time... ugh... sorry for my honesty...

4-"gentlemanky"? "Paid for the bill" ? I won't say anything, just an audible "ugh!!!". I let this one for others to reply.


5-"cute"? Cute is my bird! Or my girlfriend's dog! Ugh number 3!

6-"on the head"? That's how you would kiss your sister or... or a female friend!


Sorry, but you did several errors in my humble opinion. You showed too much interest in her and attraction doesn't
work by those rules. Affection maybe, but not attraction.

Rules? Did i say rules? Hum, to be simple i would recommend you to search in youtube for this words: "The Tao of Steve, 1st rule" (then go after the other two...)

See what i mean?
,-)


Hasta.


May the force be with you.





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So I met this American girl last Saturday whilst I was on a night out with friends. I was introduced to her through a mutual friend. We got chatting, everything was going great so we decided to exchangenumbers and we would meet up.

I tx her that evening, and started having a good tx convo with her. We arranged to meet up on Friday but she then asked if we could change it to Saturday and asked if we could go for dinner then back to hers for a few drinks as she was having a house warming party and then to also head into to town after. I agreed to it and thought wow...quite forwardon her part but she seems keen :)

So as the week goes on I call her so we can get to know each other a bit more before meeting, she loved it and said how she thought it was old school and how nobody talks on the phone anymore.

Saturday comes round we go out for a great meal, I was all gentlemanly as I had a tip off that that is what she was after in a man. (I also was aware that she didnt believe in sex before maariage but she didn't really hide this.) I paid for the bill........didnt get a thankyou....drove back to hers still...no thanks at any point for taking her to dinner!
House gathering was great, chatted to all her friends, they loved me. She occasionally was complementing me saying how cute she thought I was. Ended up going to town, she was linking my arm when walking round the bars, had=nd holding through crowds...it was all going great.....Now this is when it went kinda weird

I told her that I had a place to stay so she didnt think Iwas assuming I was going to stay at hers. I walked her back home and went inside, she said I can sleep in the lounge but not in her room. So I tuck her into bed talk with her in her room, she then started looking really distant telling me she needs to clear a few things up in her head. She then tells me that she had been on a date with another guy she had met on the Friday when she originally was seeing me. She looked guilty as hell but told me she wanted to be honest. I said it wasno biggy as she was single so she could do what she wants and I told her that I too don't rule out meeting other people when not in a relationship. I then gave her kiss on the head and told her sheneeded to go to sleep asshe had work early...I leave the room.
Next thing her housemate tells me that she is calling me back into her room... So i go in we talk some more, again I excuse myself early enough trying not tolook like I want to hang around in her room. I kiss her on the head again and she says is that all I'm getting...pulls me in for kiss. So we lay there hugging and kissing a bit. I eventually tell her goodnight and sleep in her lounge.

Next morning I go wake her up for work. She insists that I stay at hers for a bit as she thinks I'm too tired to drive. She tells me that I can stay in her room and she will go to work.

Now she has gone cold, I tx her later that day saying what a nice evening it was she agreed and said she was defintly up for 'hanging out again' we havent really spoke much since over tx yet before she was really enthusiastic. I said I was going to call her today which she said was fine but she didnt pick uo!!

WTF!!!! Sorry this was so long winded but wanted to get evey fact down so anyone who is kind enough to reply gets the full picture.

What went wrong?? what should be my next step???

Thanks for reading


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:02 am 
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i think kissing a girl on the head is pretty cool

it's like a different feeling that you get, kinda a tingle for her

what your mistake was when you were kissing her why didnt you try and take it to the next step

maybe kiss her on the neck and work your way down to ..... :D

i think that was your fault

also absolutely nothing wrong with being a gentlemen!

Soncheese x


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:01 pm 
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Hi,
:-)

Don't get me wrong but i don't mean to be rude to women. Not that, hei, like someone else said it before "i love women. i have all their albuns".

I think it's ok SOMETIMES to do some "gentlemany" actions but on your terms, when you want it. Nothing against that.

I just think that he did too much for her and maybe that was the problem.


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i think kissing a girl on the head is pretty cool

it's like a different feeling that you get, kinda a tingle for her

what your mistake was when you were kissing her why didnt you try and take it to the next step

maybe kiss her on the neck and work your way down to ..... :D

i think that was your fault

also absolutely nothing wrong with being a gentlemen!

Soncheese x

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:43 am 
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I wouldn't stress about it,
There are very few women these days who want to delay sex till marriage and those that do tend to have such strong beliefs that it's unlikely you'll change her mind even with good game. I'm assuming your in your mid to late 20's or older, so would you really want to be in a sexless relationship?
As for your game. It seems there wasn't enough push pull with the kino, instead of taking the kino very slowly. take one step forward and two steps back.
For example. Instead of kissing her on the head, go for the lips, but make sure you're the one to push her away shortly after saying something like "Whoa, slow down speed racer" The discomfort you caused her to feel when you stopped kissing will be greater than the discomfort she felt when you were kissing, if there was any, which will make her want to kiss you again, as it creates more comfort.
But as I said, people who want to delay sex till marriage, bad idea and a waist of time. I think you dodged a bullet there

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Cheers guys for all the responses. I will take all your opinions on board!


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