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Hey Guys interesting read from askmen.com:



This week's letter comes from a good-looking man who wants to know why sexy ladies are choosing flabby guys over him and his muscles.
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Dear Doc,

I'm a good-looking, intelligent guy with a great body that I enjoy flaunting at the gym. Needless to say, I enjoy receiving attention and compliments from women without exerting any effort.

What irks me, however, is that I sometimes see couples at the gym in which the women are babes and the guys are "doughboys." I love the challenge of diverting these particular women's attention away from their doughboys.

So why would a great-looking woman date a lumpy guy with no class or obvious sex appeal? Is she insecure? Or is she intimidated by male beauty and therefore plays it safe? Why would a woman who takes care of herself want to risk having dumpy-looking kids?

Sometimes I flirt with such women while their men are elsewhere, but I always start to feel sorry for the guys when that happens. One time, a woman even necked with me on an airplane for two hours, and then, upon arrival, introduced me to her husband.

I would certainly consider pursuing such a woman from an attraction standpoint, but if she has the capacity to be disloyal like that, then I would rather not bother.

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Hi Bart,

Well, you've presented some interesting questions, but first I have to take you to task. Something about you seems a bit off kilter, namely: when you say you enjoy "flaunting" your body, you sound like a chick.

If I were to look up the definition of "narcissist" in the dictionary, I know I'd find something like this: 1) A person who is excessively fascinated with his or her own appearance, and 2) A picture of Bart.

Get over yourself and learn what it takes to succeed with women...
Dude, you seem to be quite taken with yourself. But your preoccupation with your looks is clouding your vision. You say you love the "challenge" of diverting a hot-looking woman's attention away from her "doughboy." Let me ask you this, Bart; is there any reason for such a sleazy move, other than for your own ego gratification?
wake up, man!
Your concept of the proper way to relate to your fellow human beings is rather, shall we say, immature and uncaring. This is where your mind goes when you're around your gym mates, getting off on trying to sabotage other people's relationships? You'd be better off spending your time either taking your workout seriously, or at least hitting on women who aren't attached.

I'm not done yet. Let me give you a quote from one of the best-selling books in history: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." Or, as my acupuncturist Dr. Lao would say, "This kind of action make much bad karma!"

Why do these women choose a guy who isn't buff like someone such as yourself? Well Bart, although to you, looks are everything, to a lot of people, they're not. They're only part of the equation. What you fail to see is that Mr. Pie Man with the babe has other qualities that outweigh his lack of physical attractiveness. He may be incredibly talented, funny and fun to be with. Maybe he's extra confident with super high self-esteem and his woman finds those qualities more irresistible than anything. Maybe he's the best lover she's ever had.

And you know, just because a woman is super hot, it doesn't mean that she's also super intelligent. Maybe Mr. Lumpy is extra brainy and she looks up to him because she has the brains of a ping-pong ball. Maybe she's in love and isn't thinking that her kids will turn out lumpy too, but rather that they'll have his brains and her good looks. Or, possibly, he's her father figure and makes her feel safe and secure, and feeling that way is her highest priority.
looks aren't everything
A less noble reason that a woman might be with a flabby guy is that she could be a mercenary who is just using him for his money and she cheats on him with guys she meets on airplanes. Or, she could be insecure or intimidated by male beauty, two things that you mentioned Bart, and that would put her in the low self-esteem category.

The Bottom Line Factor says that there are a variety of reasons why any one woman might be with a particular guy. You never know until you give her the intensive, comprehensive interview.

But before I finish, Bart, allow me to remind you that eventually, your perfect body might no longer be so perfect and you'll find yourself wishing that you had found a woman who doesn't make physical appearance her highest priority. Take that idea as a jawbreaker and suck on it for a while.

And if you don't want to wind up in a relationship with a woman who would be disloyal to you, then don't go around enabling women who have tendencies to be disloyal. To you Psych majors, what goes around comes around.

Remember guys; looks might get it going, but personality and attitude keep it going.

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As a personal anecdote one of the hottest chicks I ever dated previous long-term ex boyfriend was a 320lbs fatty, he also had a small penis. She was intelligent and had her shit together. When I asked her why she dated him she said, "He was cool and had good game."

So again we see the paramount advantage of social value trumping looks where woman are concerned. Which is why I always tell new guys to focus on their game before making the focus of their PUA life "Hitting the gym."


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As a personal anecdote one of the hottest chicks I ever dated previous long-term ex boyfriend was a 320lbs fatty, he also had a small penis. She was intelligent and had her shit together. When I asked her why she dated him she said, "He was cool and had good game." "
This post is so true. It all comes down to whether or not a guy has game.
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So again we see the paramount advantage of social value trumping looks where woman are concerned. Which is why I always tell new guys to focus on their game before making the focus of their PUA life "Hitting the gym."
Getting big muscles is a healthy thing to do but it won't get you muscles in and of itself.You still need to be approaching women and attracting them

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I agree with your philosophy on it detox, but if someone is heavily depressed I think the first thing they need to jump start is their work out regime. Working out will help them get out of their funk, and get them moving(literally) vs. staying home and feeling sorry for themselves.

For heavy set guys it should be a part of their lifestyle change for their health and for them, not for anyone else or PUA, not for that hot girl, but for them so that you can be a better for themselves.

Working out helps you gain a more alpha behavior because you get the same chemicals going in your body as an alpha would during a hunt. It also helps loosen you up which is another sign of alpha(stress free attitude). Working out makes you feel better and thus grants a bit more confidence.

So while I agree with your concept I think SOME guys should as soon as they get into the game start working out, but they shouldn't work out for PUA reasons.

My main reason is confidence is linked to your well-being: Emotional, Physical, Mental, and Spiritual. As well as the relationships you hold with people. Game centers on confidence, with experience and knowledge being the road to easiest success.

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Self confidence and self perception is fundamental for having game. Game does not exist without a certain level of confidence, sure you can have the right things to say, but if you are not cognitively and unconsciously confident, all the game in the world is not going to matter. It will just come off as dry and over effort.

The more one can develop self confidence ( through working out/ bettering themselves in every way) the better suited his game will be.

As poeticlyskuac was saying, there is also a lot of physiological aspects of working out and general self grooming. If you can look yourself in the mirror and say " damn!! your sexy" it is a good thing. Self perception is key to becoming an ultimate pick up artist.

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I can see a difference in the attention i get when i lose 10-20 pounds my game skyrockets...I think everything matter specially looks, specially for cold approach game..Now i notice must women hook up( studs), and settle(marriage)with the ok to ugly looking dude...

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Looks matter....

It's a complex subject I discussed in my other topic. But at its core, a lot of guys relate looks to EGO and finally to ENTITLEMENT.

The guy feels like he's so good looking, he's entitled to the hot girls, not the ugly guys. The problem is, if this guy ever lost his perfect physique, naturally he would be in the mud but worst off he'd be a person crying about lost youth.

Me personally, I realize age is precious....we have a finite life on this earth. Of course logistically, you'll meet a lot of girls that only want a certain physique of man, or you'll meet a woman that wants an archetype of a guy that's a tall dark and handsome doctor.

If you believe "looks matter" a lot, then you are more than likely one of those guys that also believe "I need to have a 6 figure salary or at least be able to manage a lot of money"

The problem is, looks and money are long term value bonuses in a Long term committed relationship...but for short-term sex...you just need to be a guy with charisma and realistically good emotions to bring out in a woman.

You know the type of fat dudes that get laid that never give a fuck and you go thinking "How the fuck did that happen?" Welcome to giving yourself permission.


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If they hook up with fat guys, it's not because they are fat, fat is not beautiful.

But because the guy does something else for her.

Lets not all go out and get fat thinking hot women like fat guys.


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The secret is these guys aren't really fat.... they just wrap their humongous dicks around their waists.


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Men judge the attractiveness of a female 80% on looks, we're looking for healthy genes to bear our children. Women are about 20-30% oriented towards a mans looks the rest is on social value, intelligence and creativity all traits which would increase the survivability off her offspring by the mans access to resources, ability as a provider and ability to protect her and her children in the ancestral environment our brains are still hardwired for.

Look at some of the HB's you see with really rich guys or politicians, it make the mind boggle but these women are genuinly attracted to these guys-as David De Angelo points out "attraction is not a choice".


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Men judge the attractiveness of a female 80% on looks, we're looking for healthy genes to bear our children. Women are about 20-30% oriented towards a mans looks the rest is on social value, intelligence and creativity all traits which would increase the survivability off her offspring by the mans access to resources, ability as a provider and ability to protect her and her children in the ancestral environment our brains are still hardwired for.

Look at some of the HB's you see with really rich guys or politicians, it make the mind boggle but these women are genuinly attracted to these guys-as David De Angelo points out "attraction is not a choice".

^+ 1, with that being said everything counts! But yes i just saw this weekend at a club a dude 10 getting rejected, he was confident and everything, looks is very subjective, there are some women do not like for example a 6 pack, in their opinion the guy is try hard, and she may worry to compete with him for looks(this is what i heard from a lot of women). there are some women that are chubby chasers... Also looks change from women stage of life... One night stand they may want a hot stud, to settle they may want other qualities, not necessarily the hot stud...With that being said i am an advocate of looking the best possible way... and like tylor Durden says " i rather die than miss a day at the gym" or some shit like that.

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good points made here.
I am definitely on the chubby side. and my GF has dated guys who are much more "hot-looking" than I am (I have had the pleasure to be shown the gallery of former dates and ONSs..it seems like it's her favorite shit test)
interestingly enough, though, her (one and only) exBF is also chubby (and vaguely looks like me :roll: )
point I am trying to make is that maybe some of these girls are somehow subconsciously attracted to a specific male model for the stable partner role, a model that would not cut the bill for short-term dating or a one-nighter.

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Men judge the attractiveness of a female 80% on looks, we're looking for healthy genes to bear our children. Women are about 20-30% oriented towards a mans looks the rest is on social value, intelligence and creativity all traits which would increase the survivability off her offspring by the mans access to resources, ability as a provider and ability to protect her and her children in the ancestral environment our brains are still hardwired for.

Look at some of the HB's you see with really rich guys or politicians, it make the mind boggle but these women are genuinly attracted to these guys-as David De Angelo points out "attraction is not a choice".
So women are not interested in having healthy genes for her children?

Errrrrrr, Sorry, but we do have some lovely parting gifts for playing today.

Women want it all for her offspring, and herself.

The secret is to be extremely attractive and wealthy at the same time :lol:


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good points made here.
I am definitely on the chubby side. and my GF has dated guys who are much more "hot-looking" than I am (I have had the pleasure to be shown the gallery of former dates and ONSs..it seems like it's her favorite shit test)
interestingly enough, though, her (one and only) exBF is also chubby (and vaguely looks like me :roll: )
point I am trying to make is that maybe some of these girls are somehow subconsciously attracted to a specific male model for the stable partner role, a model that would not cut the bill for short-term dating or a one-nighter.

hahahhhhahahahaha! i been there dude! to that shit text, the answer is to magnify the other dude hotness... "damm he looks good there", but do not show a hint of you being bother or jealous..


Let me add that lets say at a young age, she got divirginized or fell in love with a latin, black, fat, chubby etc... Chances are that for the rest of her life, that most likely be her type...

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hahahhhhahahahaha! i been there dude! to that shit text, the answer is to magnify the other dude hotness... "damm he looks good there", but do not show a hint of you being bother or jealous..
yeah. I handled a few of those sub optimally in the initial stages (and had one beta backsliding moment about the exBF*), but have been making progress since.

* can't help it - exBFs are my personal taboo

her latest was having a crush on a soccer player (long live Euro2012) to which I laughed along with her and said at least we have an excuse to watch the matches. in the end, she googled up the guy and turned out he was half-German. her crush was over the moment I suggested they could sit up by the fire at night and he could read her the Mein Kampf :lol: (hint to get the joke: my GF is Jewish)

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