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Challenge Status Update:

1.) Approach 30 women directly and in front of them with confidence (done)

2.) 30 Conversations with random people (done)

3.) Escalate with women by holding their hands rub them, and stare them in the eyes, do this with 10 women (in progress)

4.) Give 10 women frontal hugs (done)

5.) Have conservations with 10 different women about sex (in progress)

6.) The 20 Kiss Challenge (currently in progress)


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Day 43:*20 Kiss Attempt 1*

Intro:

Well today I went to the mall to try out the 20 kiss challenge. I didn't quite talk to 20 women because of an unfortunate incident that occurred. I'll start by saying that I've had a great time, but that I might need to plan things out a little bit better.

I went back to the mall to have some fun with a friend. I and he drove a few hours earlier today. I was anxious, yet I was pumped. I knew that today as any day would be a fun and lesson learning day. So we basically cruise up to the mall listening to some good Lloyd Banks and Dipset to chill me out.

When I went to the mall I got an idea. I told a friend, "how about you film me picking up women, that outta be fun right?" My boy agreed and I knew we'd have some fun doing this. We made it to the parking lot and not much happened. I could've approached a 3 set, but I didn't complain or waste too much energy focusing on what I didn't do.

Instead, I went into the mall and the first girl that I saw I said "hello" to in order to warm up and prepare to approach some more women in the near future. We go in through an appliance store and this is where the fun begins.

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The Story Begins...

We were not too far from a kiosk that I was near before and there were a few sets of girls that I talked to. The first of which was a two set of blondes. I said "hello," to them from a distance with my hands raised high. They walked passed me but I wasn't too deterred. I said hello a few more times and finally they walked around. I forgot that my friend was filming. And they asked "is he filming?" jokingly. I said, "I dunno." I didn’t really know how to respond. My friend was so damn close and he wasn't listening to me. I told him to film me from further away so it wouldn’t be so easy to be spotted. My friend is a cool and chill guy who is in his own reality. And I respect that about him, but the way I told him, "if I tell you something bro do it." Because I got caught at the mall filming before.

Anyway, I talked to these girls and went for a hug. They were reluctant. I'll admit I don't establish much comfort before I escalate with women and I might be uncalibrated, but hey I went to the mall to do. That set blew out fairly quickly.

Afterward I went up to the kiosk and did the same thing I had done before, I asked if she would be fired if we had made out. She sounded ticked; she responded "no I'd get a million dollars, why don't you kiss your friend." And I'm not completely sure whether or not he was filming her, but I'm pretty sure that it was her that eventually lead to what happened later with security.

No matter, I picked up the pieces and moved on to the next set that walked up the stairs from the food court, two Hispanic girls. I said hello and what not. I asked them if I looked like a black version of the head doctor on Grey's Anatomy, they didn't know who he was until I described the show and they said, "oh yeah!"

Afterwards we talked for a bit, not for long mind you, and then I went for the hug. At first I hugged one of them, but then they started to walk away and then they went into a store. I wasn't that deterred as usual, I followed and keep talking but they ran into some friends. Afterward I introduced my self to the friends and just left because I just didn't feel like staying around.

There were women at the one kiosk really close to the water fountain that noticed that I kept hitting on women. I saw them chattering, but at the time I paid no attention to them at the time. Me and my buddy went up stairs to a lobby and there he filmed me doing a couple more approaches.

While at the lounge or waiting area, whichever, I made a few approaches. The first of which was an older blonde from Europe. I talked to her for a bit, but she wasn't a good set. I used the same phrase as before with the girls who entered the store. "Don't I look like a black version of so and so." And she responded, "race does not matter, my bf's black, blah blah blah." And I responded, " I didn't ask that, I asked if I looked like a black version of so and so." And she giggled and chuckled, and then I went in for a hug and she responded, "I'm from Europe we're different we don't do that." I kept going in and getting the same response. After awhile I just figured the set wasn't going forward so I just ejected and sat down with my buddy.

The whole entire time he was filming two girls from a different kiosk upstairs were watching him. One was puffing on an electronic cig, and the other I had noticed from my school.

After a few minutes had passed another older woman with red hair had approached the mall map and I just figured I'd walk up to her.

I just said hey and responded from a corny line and said, "You probably don't get this much." And afterward she was like, "no every place I go I get this!" She wasn't dumb, she was a smart cookie, and she knew my friend was over there filming, but I paid no mind. I told her, "I know you need a black young bull in your life, lemme be the one." :lol:

She giggles playfully and then directs the conversation towards my buddy and then my friend keeps filming (damn him lol) and after that she says, "He’s taking pictures of me." And I played it cool this time and responded, "Hey then why don't we make the most of this and have a kiss." She responds, "I don't wanna go to jail for raping a kid, I have kids your age."

And I told her, "look I'm old enough to take you to a bar, you got nothing to worry about."

After going back for a few minutes she left, and I went back to my buddy. That's when my buddy noticed the girls at the kiosk looking at him. He went up to the Kiosk and talked for a bit. The girls were cool. The girl asked me, "You must have a lot of balls to just approach girls like that with out fearing rejection." My boy stepped up and said, "Hey, he doesn't take it to heart." Most don't know the two years of hard work that went into being able to approach like that, but that's another story.

So one thing I notice about my boy is that he's a really chill ass guy, when he's having a conversation with anyone or a girl he is planted there in the moment and focused on her. And this girl was going on and on to him. I can tell she was interested in him so I mainly sat this one back and let my boy at in and I approached two more girls before I gave it a rest.

Not long before I left a set, a fat mall cop came around that kiosk. I knew that he was looking for me. My boy didn't get caught that time. But afterwards I figured that it was time to head out and try doing something elsewhere.

I told my boy that it was time to go, and he was so planted there with the girl that he would not listen to me. I figured, maybe he's right, but something in my gut told me that it was time to head out.

So I left him there to do what he did. While I was out and about I approached my first mixed set. I basically went up and said, "Hi". And then followed up by, "your closer to him, you must be his gf."

She responded no. And the other girl said the same. I then followed up by, "none of you are together." And then I basically talked to them for a bit. The guy friend said, "no their not available unless your willing to pay." I responded, "How much? 20 for the hour?" He said nah, "ten for her and 2.50 for the other one." Lol, they all chuckled and the brunette said, "I hate you." Then some helicopter guy pulled them aside or some shit, and he basically just guided the set away. But I wasn't trying to be that serious with any set, I was just trying to kiss and leave.

After that, I approached another two set of women and talked to them from a bit, but from the start she was playing hard ball.

I said, "Hey."

She made an extremely weird grunting noise and at first said nothing.

I said, "Hey" again, because as usual I wasn't deterred. And then after awhile she grunted again and said, "my dad won't stop fucking me." It was an extremely weird comment. And then I responded, "Can I help?" And the girl on the left responded no again. She then again said, "Me and my dad are fucking." And I asked her, "is it an open relationship? I'd love to join?"

She just kept rambling and walking away. I figured it was time to head back to my buddy. Not too long after I approached another set, but can't remember much about it because of the follow event.

The Mall Cops

After that set had bailed a guy at a cell phone kiosk stopped me. I thought he was trying to sell me something, but he asked me, "Hey, what are you doing here? Do you work here?" I just responded to him, "Shopping, what's it to you?" He responded, "Just checking." After that he shouted up to the girl at the kiosk from the lounge and flashed hand signals. I knew something was wrong after they had done that.

I went up the escalator in anticipation. When I made it up to the second floor my buddy wasn't in sight. I walked up to ask where my friend was, and the first thing she said to me was, "you should really leave the mall now. Security just took your friend away and now they're searching for you." This was surreal to me, in all my time gaming I had never had this much trouble with security, this is perhaps the second time I've had a security issue in a week.

I stayed calm and responded, "that's actually why I came up here, to see where my friend was at." She then responded, "The cops took him away, made him delete all the films that you two made, and escorted him back to his car." She then went ablaze with rage and started to yell, "YOU KNOW YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T BE FILMING LIKE THAT!" I replied, "Look I wasn't the one filming, and I did tell him to stop or step back a few times." Now I admit that I should've taken more of the blame, but I had told my friend to either hide himself or stop. But had law enforcement pursued him I would've corrected the issue and taken ownership because that's what I do.

And she then proceeded with, "how old are you?" I responded with my real age which I shouldn't have. "I'm 21." "21 HONESTLY 21? AND YOU STILL THINK IT'S FUN TO FILM RANDOM GIRLS AT THE MALL? IF I WERE ONE OF THOSE WOMEN I WOULD'VE PUNCHED YOU IN THE FACE!"

Conclusion...

I didn't have much in the way of words to say after that. This was my first true experience getting yelled at by a woman, so it was a bit unnerving. I did however go find my friend at his car like the girl told me he would be and we drove home and he told me his side of the story. I did have a little talk to him, but I think I didn't drive the point home. I wasn't very firm with him, but I did tell him, "If I tell you to do something do it." Because I've known others who had the experience before. We did talk about it though, and I will extend the conversation a bit. But I did notice that he seemed to be unphased by the situation. Maybe I too should be unphased, or maybe I should reevaluate what I am doing. No matter, I’m only focusing on the task at hand.

We just came home; I rechanneled my thoughts and remembered the positive nature of what went on today. For the first time in ever I can approach women without much fear and that's saying a lot for my self. I usually hesitate and or wait for her to pass a second time to approach. This time around I approach women when I first see them and don't take much time to think about it. I have gotten very good at approaching and very confident at what I do.

However, I am a little bit uncalibrated when it comes to game. And I'm not afraid of that, I know that with more practice and patience that this will come with time. My only concern now is to do. And now I figure it may be time to change up the venue, maybe a club or a bar for the 20 kiss challenge instead of a mall.

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I usually do not ask for advice in this matter, but I could really use some custom tailored advice right now.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:25 pm 
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Challenge Status Update:

1.) Approach 30 women directly and in front of them with confidence (done)

2.) 30 Conversations with random people (done)

3.) Escalate with women by holding their hands rub them, and stare them in the eyes, do this with 10 women (in progress)

4.) Give 10 women frontal hugs (done)

5.) Have conservations with 10 different women about sex (in progress)

6.) The 20 Kiss Challenge (done)


Well I did the 20 kiss challenge last night and I did get my first kiss. It was fun, wasn't quite the make out that I desired, but nonetheless I can now say that I've been kissed. I've gotten done with much of my list. Though, I don't feel comfortable leaving behind the kiss challenge. I would like to add a make out as a part of this. However, the kiss has been sealed. :)

I will write a field report on my night later. I had hellah fun, the guy I met off here was a good dude, and he was fairly new, but still really good. I'd definitely hangout with him again.

I now only have two of these challenges left to do. And once I complete these two challenges, my plan is to close down this journal and open up a part two of this journal and set new goals to accomplish. These new goals will push the envelope and take me to my ultimate goals.


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Just a few general notes I noticed from last night. I usually eject from sets too early (I will learn how to stay in long enough for comfort), and I need to work on my delivery. These were the two major issues that I noticed from last night. A little banter and flirting won't hurt. These could be the differences between my success and lack thereof in the field.

I've become extremely confident in the field, but I'm perhaps a little too goofy, not that there's anything wrong with that. However, it maybe effecting what I can be obtaining in the field. So from what I gathered, the things I need to work on the most are:

1.) Staying in Sets

2.) Delivery of conversations

3.) Body language (fun yet dominate and leading)

I'm already a fun guy with lots to offer, but I'm sure that once I add these to the mix that I'll be set.


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You're shotgunning instead of funneling.

Shotgun:

1. You want vagina.
2. You read up 100 different "pu" exercises.
3. You practice 100 different exercises on 100 different girls, and you do it 100 different ways.

Funnel:

1. In your life, there are hundreds of different girls in hundreds of situations.
2. Your conversation with them can begin any which way.
3. You progressively narrow the conversation down to a second meeting.
4. You go out with one.
5. You get vagina.

Scratch off all those "PU challenges" from your schedule. You've done them. You now know the World isn't going to end when you converse with a woman. Conversing with 100 girls isn't the goal. Attempting to make out with 100 isn't the goal. Getting a date and spending time with a girl, one at a time . . . this is the goal.

A few thoughts on what you've written thus far.

"Pouncing"

Imagine that you've signed up for a lecture on Accounting Law and the speaker starts off with accounting fundamentals . . . then, instead continuing with the main topic, he starts telling jokes for the remaining 30 minutes of the lecture. Now . . . you might like stand-up comedy more than Accounting Law but you'd still go, "WTF?"

Girls might like to kiss more than chatting about the weather but if you suddenly stop chatting about the weather pouncing the, "Let's kiss," they're going to think "WTF"? There's something disingenuous about this. It's as if to say, "I don't give a fuck about everything we've been chatting about for 20 minutes, let's just kiss. No? I don't care, I'm outta here."
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“Don’t play like that you know what we both want.”
How did you think she'd respond? "You know, you're absolutely right. I'm just playing! Yeah, because I know what we both really want!" (Imagine she's curling her eyebrows up and down and mimicking her hand as if she's stuffing cock in her mouth.) "You want some of this? Me too! Take your shorts off because it's your lucky day!"

1. Getting a girl to SAY ^this is not the goal. So do not ask any questions or make a statement where the positive reaction is ^this and the negative answer is, "you're an idiot." - This is a lose, lose.

2. You're reaching for 'green light permission' because you know it's not there. If you knew you did everything smoothly, you'd treat her as she was married to you for 2 years.

So the way to 'do everything smoothly' is to stop playing the "PU challenges" and start interacting with women. You're a public speaker and a poet. If so, utilize these skills and stick to your strengths. Thus far, you've been either pouncing the 'big question' and treating the male-female encounter as a joke. You're a public speaker. You're a poet. There is no excuse for you to treat women like a number. You're already thinking about #27 while you're working on #6. Start setting up dates. . . this is what normal people in the normal World do when they meet people of the opposite sex that interest them.

However, "normal people" rely on chance for attraction. Somebody they mutually know 'introduces' them. They somehow have similar backgrounds. They have similar goals in life. Etc . . . Hell, even some of the self acclaimed 'masters of pick up' in this forum won't bother opening a girl until their imaginary attracto-meter registers a 'green light'. Here is what should separate you from the average guy. YOU ARE A SPEAKER. YOU ARE A POET. If so, let your poetry flow. Why the hell do you think those old dudes bothered putting all that energy into puzzling a few words together in the first place? It's because what they FELT about the WOMAN standing before them was simply too magnificent to express with mere conversation. (Then they figured out all the needed to do was repeat that process WITH ANY GIRL in order to get laid) - Think about this means for you.

*Very impressed that you kept up with your journal.


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*Very impressed that you kept up with your journal.
Thanks for this, and thanks for taking your time to reply to my journal.
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You're shotgunning instead of funneling.

Shotgun:

1. You want vagina.
2. You read up 100 different "pu" exercises.
3. You practice 100 different exercises on 100 different girls, and you do it 100 different ways.

Funnel:

1. In your life, there are hundreds of different girls in hundreds of situations.
2. Your conversation with them can begin any which way.
3. You progressively narrow the conversation down to a second meeting.
4. You go out with one.
5. You get vagina.
I actually agree. I usually go from talking to a girl to trying to kiss her in 5 minutes, or go straight for sex. However, the original intention of these “challenges” was to create points of reference for my self. If opportunities during a good interaction ever came, I wanted to able to act on it. I also wanted to be able to “set goals” and achieve them. The original purpose of this journal was indeed for me to get a kiss.

However, I do agree that I need to begin to ‘funnel’ my energy into the quality of interactions instead of the quantity.
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Scratch off all those "PU challenges" from your schedule. You've done them. You now know the World isn't going to end when you converse with a woman. Conversing with 100 girls isn't the goal. Attempting to make out with 100 isn't the goal. Getting a date and spending time with a girl, one at a time . . . this is the goal.
I’d agree, but it’s more of a mental thing for me now. I want to get in the habit of constructively finishing things I start. When I was here before I had a very bad habit of starting something and not finishing it. I will not get into this habit again. So at this point it’s just a lesson in the idea of follow through. It’s become more of a character building exercise. I will change the focus very soon. I’ve now set a series of new goals more related to quality interactions.
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A few thoughts on what you've written thus far.

"Pouncing"

Imagine that you've signed up for a lecture on Accounting Law and the speaker starts off with accounting fundamentals . . . then, instead continuing with the main topic, he starts telling jokes for the remaining 30 minutes of the lecture. Now . . . you might like stand-up comedy more than Accounting Law but you'd still go, "WTF?"

Girls might like to kiss more than chatting about the weather but if you suddenly stop chatting about the weather pouncing the, "Let's kiss," they're going to think "WTF"? There's something disingenuous about this. It's as if to say, "I don't give a fuck about everything we've been chatting about for 20 minutes, let's just kiss. No? I don't care, I'm outta here."
Ha-ha yes, conversations have been a weak point quite some time. Even with my guy friends I can be awkward at times. I’m not horrible at it, and I’ve gotten significantly better, but this has been an area that I needed to concentrate on for awhile now, which will be the first new focus of phase two of my journals.
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“Don’t play like that you know what we both want.”
How did you think she'd respond? "You know, you're absolutely right. I'm just playing! Yeah, because I know what we both really want!" (Imagine she's curling her eyebrows up and down and mimicking her hand as if she's stuffing cock in her mouth.) "You want some of this? Me too! Take your shorts off because it's your lucky day!"

1. Getting a girl to SAY ^this is not the goal. So do not ask any questions or make a statement where the positive reaction is ^this and the negative answer is, "you're an idiot." - This is a lose, lose.

2. You're reaching for 'green light permission' because you know it's not there. If you knew you did everything smoothly, you'd treat her as she was married to you for 2 years.
Ha-ha point taken, though I did have a lot of fun. That was my first escalation, so yeah it was weird lol.
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So the way to 'do everything smoothly' is to stop playing the "PU challenges" and start interacting with women. You're a public speaker and a poet. If so, utilize these skills and stick to your strengths. Thus far, you've been either pouncing the 'big question' and treating the male-female encounter as a joke. You're a public speaker. You're a poet. There is no excuse for you to treat women like a number. You're already thinking about #27 while you're working on #6. Start setting up dates. . . this is what normal people in the normal World do when they meet people of the opposite sex that interest them.

However, "normal people" rely on chance for attraction. Somebody they mutually know 'introduces' them. They somehow have similar backgrounds. They have similar goals in life. Etc . . . Hell, even some of the self acclaimed 'masters of pick up' in this forum won't bother opening a girl until their imaginary attracto-meter registers a 'green light'. Here is what should separate you from the average guy. YOU ARE A SPEAKER. YOU ARE A POET. If so, let your poetry flow. Why the hell do you think those old dudes bothered putting all that energy into puzzling a few words together in the first place? It's because what they FELT about the WOMAN standing before them was simply too magnificent to express with mere conversation. (Then they figured out all the needed to do was repeat that process WITH ANY GIRL in order to get laid) - Think about this means for you.
Ha-ha I’ve never thought of myself as a poet, but thanks man. So start setting up dates, a little less jokiness, and learn the art of self-expression. I’d agree those are great starting points. Thanks a lot for this kasabi, I was really hitting a brick wall here. It's always awesome to have a helpful eye critque you.


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Well today I did a little gaming but not much. I only did one hand hold grab. Tommorrow, I will finish out this challenge, on wednesday I will finish out the sexual escalation challenge and then complete this journal. I'm starting to think Kasabi was right about moving on, but I still feel that I can gain some character by finishing out strong.

Also, I've expanded my social circle, I've been so focused on women that I've neglected gaining some bros. I think one of the number exchanges was weird lol. But I've gotten like 5 numbers. My goal is 10 guys and 15 girls before the system ends out.

I'm getting two jobs and going to school full time this summer so gaming won't disappear but I won't be going in as hard as I have been. I still resolve to actually move on to the next part of my plan and get good with people. I know that this next phase coming up will definately step my game up to the next level.


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3 verbal sexual escalations
3 hand grab escalations

I'll write more on this later. Just a marker to serve as a reminder.


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7 hand grab escalations (2 hand shakes in the concourse, a hand hold from an associate, 2 hand holds while getting a palm reading "I did sexually escalate")

3 verbal sexual escalations

Well guys I'm officially complete with this journal. A girl reminded me that I've been having sexual conversations with women all semester. So essentially I've been redoing this sexual verbal challenge. Now it's time to fine tune my skills in Part II of my journal. I will be writing detailed reports for everything that I said I would be writing reports for, but it's just been hectic with finals and all. I will finish out this journal very soon and then officially end it.

Challenge Status Update:

1.) Approach 30 women directly and in front of them with confidence (done)

2.) 30 Conversations with random people (done)

3.) Escalate with women by holding their hands rub them, and stare them in the eyes, do this with 10 women (in progress)

4.) Give 10 women frontal hugs (done)

5.) Have conservations with 10 different women about sex (in progress)

6.) The 20 Kiss Challenge (done)
                • Mission Complete!!!


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