Okay this happened to me today. So comments..

This girl and I know each other but we never really talked much, we some classes together and so on. I have a reputation as a player and she knows basically all about it for some reason...

So near my university is a shopping mall, I was talking over to it and she and I met her and her guy friend on the way.

After a while she just started talking about how she hates players, first I thought she is just mad at one hurting her and is generalizing... later I got the more subtle hints that she was referring to me(as in looking accusingly at me while bad mouthing players...bitch).

She kept on saying she won't fall for us and so on and on.. I gave no reaction. A few minutes on she just said to me Hey (my name) you're a player you know(she said this as if she was mad at me!! I never made out or slept with her or one of her friends)

I just said that is not what I would call it. And moved on. Later on she said this guy we both know, is more smooth than me(wtf???) I didn't know how to respond as this was not related to the topic, and I know the guy... he is as smooth as a porcupine. But I said nothing.

I need advice on what happened above as I would like to seduce this girl(yeah yeah ego... But I'm in university and doing stupid things is a prerequisite)

And also advice on how to handle this stuff in the future as I think it will happen a lot more if I'm here for 4 more years...Mostly I use the "I am a man and I won't apologize for going after what I want" line. Should I stick to this or any other way? And any tips or whatnot on handling resistance that will happen because of my rep.

I love these types of girls. They are a lot of fun if you know how to work on it. Just make sure nothing she says phases you otherwise if you react it means you are getting qualified. She is trying hard to qualify you lol. If you can make her laugh, add some mystery and show that you're not a bad guy non-verbally then you pretty much won. You will build attraction, tease her, and if you want a relationship with this girl, share a vullnurable story later on, if not, then run your usual game I guess.

seems like she's just a bit nervous around you, not there in person so I can't really tell but it would seem shes putting the guard up cause she likes you, or why else would she randomly say this shit?

basically she is implying that you are chasing or something and it won't work,

the good old IM HARD TO GET, I know you're smooth and get all these girls, but it won't work on me, blah blah blah

basically, just ignore it all, she is most likely into you and just doesn't want to feel used or slutty for liking you, so she has to justify in some way to herself that she doesn't like you, so she won't feel fucked up if she ends up doing something with you

just don't be surprised if she starts saying rude shit about you out of insecurity, just do your thing and pay little to no attention to her little emotional outbursts

This actually makes sense.. So I should not chase her at all? Give little attention and not let her phase me.

And in general am I handling the being called a player thing good or bad or whatever?

LOL... When I read this thread, I was looking forward to jumping in on it - I dig your posts - you've got natural game, and seem to want to improve it as well. That said, Pump and Sly are on board and spot on.

Don't let her know any of her words matter when she's bagging on 'players'. Take what she says and ramp it up... When she says "______ is much more smooth" Jump in - "I bet, he'd probably make a nun forget her vows." When she insults players... tell her "I agree - and, you know... I have to say I can't stand being labeled" (leaves ambiguity - she won't know what the fuck you're alluding to)... and leave the discussion.

Always be the guy to walk away. Leave subtleties as you do. It forces her to wrap her brain around whatever the fuck you said - and that keeps you in her dome - in her thought process. I love to play this game.

*Disclaimer... I'm 45, and this works on women in their low 30's on upwards...

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I also enjoy this.. It is just more fun. But I want to make the most of this so that I at least can end it on a high. Her insulting me is correct, as she has done that already. I wrote it of to just a bad day. But I think she may feel guilty for liking me... I guess just like every girl she made a promise to herself that she won't fall for 'that' guy. So maybe it's just guilt or something... I'll continue getting under her skin each and be the charming asshole she hates...to love(I always wanted to say that)

DDRQ - eventually, determine if you want a relationship (some people are programmed to want that shit, I'm not LOL)... If you do, you can downplay the PUA-side... find quiet moments to interject that people don't really know you... You'll be a confidant with her... she'll subliminally appreciate the trust you give her and reciprocate... You can use things like "I'm not the guy you think I am... I find it ...frankly, I find it offensive that just because I can articulate myself rather well that I'm somehow 'labeled' for it...". You DHV yourself AND play the mock-victim at the same time! Two options will happen:

1) If she's uber-smart and feels like you're not being sincere - you can always go hard sarcastic and funny afterwards - overplay the victim role... and laugh with her.... Throw in humor "Hey come on don't judge me, I'm a delicate flower...". Show her you aren't afraid to confront the topic - always have a rebuttal that is sarcastic/funny - or disarming, and she'll program herself to NOT ask you about it...

2) If you can pull it off and she thinks you're sincere (maybe you are - I wouldn't be, I'd be manipulating the situation to fuck her) - then watch her come to your aid!

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For sure no relationship at the moment. I know for sure she is a virgin. So fucking will take a while. But making out can't be to far off, and once I'm there I start for the next milestone. Problem is that she already knows about me.. I'm good friends with her friends(didn't do anything with them..never dreamt of it because their...errr ugl...not my type ) Wouldn't she find it weird me suddenly giving more attention or gameing her after she insulted me...?

I was not trying to suggest chasing will not work, I was suggesting that she is sub-communicating she is hard to get, and she is not falling for you, when in reality what it basically does is just tell you she probably likes you

I think she just plain and simple likes you and feels insecure about it, and she does not want to end up doing something with you and wind up fucked over, but she still finds you attractive or she would not be bringing attention to this sort of thing

I would just be all humble about it, just like, huh you think I suck huh, well thats shitty I thought you were kind of cute and cool, but now youre being all weird, totally dont like it when people judge me just because I like girls, etc. etc. start working on her asd and qualifying her to what you want

Think I must carry this paragraph with me...Lol. It feels natural to say when I read it out loud.

If she KNOWS you're gaming her - you're doing it wrong brother...

If you've not banged her friends - then her friends' opinions are based on heresay as well... That's an obvious point to make "Funny, your friends know my 'rep' but yet I've not slept with any one of them, why is that?" Is she the type to insult her friends by saying "because they're fucking ugly."?

I'd treat her like every one else you want to game. Be cool - find the chink in her armor. Bottom line - don't let ANY of her shit affect you; if it does - she gains control.

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I wouldn't say she knows that I'm gaming her. But I mean she is on the look out for one "player" type move... So I think she will have her asd multiplied with me... Like if I buy her a chocholate(won't do this just example) she will take it to be tested for love potion or something.. So she won't be just another girl to me or something.

Another thing... Jealousy? Being seen with other girls? I'm kinda sure she will be more sure I'm a player than being motivated by jealousy..? I'm not planning on going to tell her about any other girl though. But let's say she sees me hand in hand with another girl? Good or Bad?

I tend to over think when I'm excited btw!

I suggest letting her know you're interested in her through a push/pull. If you show outward affection to another woman in front of her, you have to answer that question - is that a deal breaker for her? Does that perpetuate her fears of you? Does that challenge her to want you more? Those are the answers we can't give you brother....

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Having a player rep. is not that bad, it mean you get girls(abundance) with that being said, the girls is looking for (security), she does not want to get used or hurt, this is what you need to do, it works, i done it many times never a problem, since i have one of the worst reputations, even my gf questions me every once in a while, but that is another story here is what you do and what to say do not change the context:

Listen i am not a player, i just date and i am 100% honest and upfront with every girl, i tell them that i am seeing other people... most people SETTLE(key word super important) they overlook wrongs and red flags just because they do not want to be alone, see you do not truly get to know somebody after minimum 6 months that you are with them, so in other for me to avoid wasting time, i just date and when i find the girl that i really like the real her, not the best foot forward at the beginning of dating,then i am 100% exclusive, But what i am not gonna do is spend 6 months to a year or more with the wrong person just to settle, do you see what i mean? hb: yes that is so true... The whole story is a dhv(community lingo whatever)... Now i really like______________(whatever you like about her) and i would like to get to know you now if you are the right person for me and we end up together, i am 100% exclusive...


It works dude!

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