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HB9 dumped her boyfriend today, texted to tell me this morning.

She texted me a bit after work before calling her now ex-boyfriend.
Afterward, I used an adaptation of Mystery's ESP routine on her via text. Gave her both numbers at once,

Me: The first, 3. Then... 7.
HB9: How... I'm confused...
Me: We just have a really great connection I guess.

Blew her mind (cheers to Mystery), then went on with

Me: Makes sense really. You want more fun in your life. Fun is what I do best.
HB9: You're right, I do.

Said she had to go because her eyes hurt from crying and mascara, so this is what I said.

Me: Blown off twice in one night? Ouch.
HB9: I'm really sorry, my eyes are really sore. Breakups are hard.
Me: Alright. I'll let you make it up to me tomorrow.

Trying to get in more DHVs now, and tomorrow I'll let her 'make it up to me' by escalating/compliance. She's said repeatedly she wants me to take her out to a club/party, but my nights are filled until the weekend. Any suggestions?
The hell is wrong with you?

The girl says she's down and crying and you try to make a joke out of it. This is the time where you have to be a little empathetic of her situation. Offer her your support, tell her that you'll be here, if she needs you to be. Don't blow it off.

After that you still don't leave the asshole frame, inspite of her saying "Breakups are hard." and that her eyes are sore. You could've just said "I understand. I know." and leave it at that and she'd have appreciated that.

Anyway, you should take her out by making a gap in your schedule, but be careful, if you want something substantial out of this don't fall into the "rebound guy" trap. Define the relationship.

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I think that I am receiving 2 flakes simultaneously now from 2 blondes. I think its because in my texts I am projecting too much neediness. Can you verify please?

Blonde 1: I wrote about this one in this thread. Meet with her in a club. K-close, direct game, #close. I came off as a confident guy.
Text game was great, she responded fast etc. We set up meeting fast for a pool and she said she enjoyed it because it wasn't some typical date.
Now she is starting to not responding to my texts. I noticed that I always initiate convo (sending her text almost every day) and that the texts might be interpreted as needy. For example:
**writes sth that has bad mood because of sbd**
I write her next day: (1) What happend? Work related or sth personal?
or another I wrote to her: (2) How you doing kiddo? omg sth reminded me of you today....

It's 24 hours and she didn't responded to (2).
Well, there could be a number of reasons for her not replying. Maybe that date wasn't as "hot" as she wanted it to be. Make no mistakes, dates can be fun, but unless there is a sexual undercurrent in them, there's not gonna be much you can do with a woman. Never, and I repeat NEVER take kino-escalation too lightly. That is one of the reasons why I keep blaring on and on about why people should get the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder pdf, if they have a issue with the escalation by themselves.
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This friday, #closed in club. In fact she #closed me. I was just saying "ok we should meet up sometime" and smiled and she said "ok i will take your #".

Next day (technically same day) after about 10 hours I wrote her
(3) "Hey. Didn't you just meet extremelly cool guy yesterday at *club name* "
She: "Orly? :) and didn't you met some pretty miss?..."
(4): "Oh ye, there were few of them and one special girl was pretty impudent :-P" (she argued with me over something)

It's two days she didn't responded to (4). Is there sth particulary wrong? I it sounds to me funny :)

I freaked out she is not responding and day after it I wrote
(5) "Ok miss, how do you feel today?"

She didn't respond to (5) (24 hours) either. But imo (5) this is really needy...

What should I do? Writing them more messages seems to just project even more neediness.
I suppose you blew it with your (4) text, when you decided to call her "impudent", which could be interpreted in a ton of ways, good and bad. Don't use such big words, if you are unsure about your partner's capability to pick the right meaning out of them. That's a tip for the future.

I'd say give them a final try. But, these situations look dead in the water to me.

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Greetings from Denmark!

I've followed this thread for a long time, and it has given me a lot of valuable tips on text gaming, but now I have a problem of my own that requires help - so here goes:

I met this girl at a local bar about a week ago. She's kinda in my social circle, meaning that we've got quite a lot of friends in common, but we did not know each other personally. Last friday she came up to me while I was talking to one of our mutual friends, and we got into conversation and had a lot of fun. We ended up dancing, but at the end of the night she disappeared and I went home.

She had told me to find her on facebook, and so I did. I got her phone number without problems and started texting her. In the beginning everything was going well. I used a lot of call-back humor from the night we met, while also getting to know her better.

But suddenly the conversation died out, even though I tried to bring in new and interesting topics. She didn't answer me, so I decided to wait a day and text again. She answered, but very shortly, and she did not seem very interested. So I decided to stop texting her and deleted her number.

This saturday evening she suddenly texted me, asking me if I planned to go out. I played it a little formal and told her maybe, and she seemed very excited to see me again. I ended up going out with a couple of friends, and she came to the bar where I was to see me. Unfortunately, she had to leave almost immediately, so I couldn't close her, but we did text back and forth while she was on her way home.

Yesterday I texted her again, and conversation was fine. She invested as much as me, but it didn't seem to escalate, and the conversation was a bit static. This is where I need help. She seems kind of reserved, and I'm not really getting that closer to her, and I was hoping to get some help on how to move conversation to the next level and set up a day two. So here's a sample of last nights texting, translated from danish:

ME: Did you get home safe last night? :-)
HER: Yes, I did :-) How about you?
ME: Yes, but very late! So I'm looking forward to going home and relax tonight. :-)
HER: You haven't been home yet?
ME: Yeah, but I had to get up early to look at an apartment. So now I've got a date with my duvet.
HER: Was the apartment nice? I've longed for my bed as well!

...

ME: I feel like watching a good movie. Can you recommend one? :-)
HER: I can recommend handball on TV2 (danish TV-channel) ;-) But The Butterfly Effect is a pretty good movie.
ME: I had forgotten! Are you into handball? ;-)
HER: It's exciting :-) I've played myself.
ME: I think so too :-) Why don't you play anymore?
HER: Haven't got the time :-) And I like running better.
ME: Were you any good? ;-) I run a bit as well - I should do it more often.
HER: Hm, after 7 years of practice I should be able to play okay.
HER: Yeah, I should run more often too :-)
ME: I hope so ;-) I suck at handball, so I stick to soccer. Are you training for anything special? :-)
HER: Soccer is great too :-) I'm planning to run the Copenhagen Marathon. My training programme begins tomorrow, so I've got 20 weeks. :-)
ME: Cool! How did you get that idea?
HER: Because I've done it before ;-)
ME: Awesome! Then you can - almost - outrun me ;-)
HER: I'm not at my best now, but I will be ;-)
ME: If you need me to drive behind you and cheer for you while training, just say the word ;-)
HER: Haha, like that would help, but thanks :-)
ME: I'm pretty good at it! How fast did you ran your last marathon? :-)
HER: It wasn't a marathon, but 58,5 km on 6 hours - and a half-marathon on 2 hours. :-)
ME: That's quite good. I suppose you have a goal for this years marathon. :-)
HER: Yeah, or maybe ;-) Depends on how my training goes. But I'm off to bed - goodnight. :-)
ME: Goodnight. Sweet dreams. :-)

I hope the sample isn't too long. As you can see, I have no problem making conversation through text, but I'm having trouble taking it to the next level and get her to commit to a day two. I hope you can give me some advice on what to do next, and what I could have done different.

Thanks in advance. :-)
To be honest with you, this seems like a conversation a 'Nice Guy' will have with a girl. It's a nice conversation. Don't get me wrong. But, it's too flat, too dull, there's no flirting, there's no double meanings, nothing.

That is NOT the kinda conversation you want to have with a girl you're interested in. It would put you in the "Safe" category and that's a bad place to be.

So, I'd suggest you to start flirting here, outright flirting, teasing sexually if needed, just to get the mood to a place where some tangible progress can be expected.

Also, during these physical meet-ups with the girl, try to kino-escalate on her. You too. DiCarlo Escalation Ladder. Go. Get that.

As long as you're taking chances, you'll get chances to get somewhere.

Play it safe and you'll get nowhere.

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I think that I am receiving 2 flakes simultaneously now from 2 blondes. I think its because in my texts I am projecting too much neediness. Can you verify please?

Blonde 1: I wrote about this one in this thread. Meet with her in a club. K-close, direct game, #close. I came off as a confident guy.
Text game was great, she responded fast etc. We set up meeting fast for a pool and she said she enjoyed it because it wasn't some typical date.
Now she is starting to not responding to my texts. I noticed that I always initiate convo (sending her text almost every day) and that the texts might be interpreted as needy. For example:
**writes sth that has bad mood because of sbd**
I write her next day: (1) What happend? Work related or sth personal?
or another I wrote to her: (2) How you doing kiddo? omg sth reminded me of you today....

It's 24 hours and she didn't responded to (2).
Well, there could be a number of reasons for her not replying. Maybe that date wasn't as "hot" as she wanted it to be. Make no mistakes, dates can be fun, but unless there is a sexual undercurrent in them, there's not gonna be much you can do with a woman. Never, and I repeat NEVER take kino-escalation too lightly. That is one of the reasons why I keep blaring on and on about why people should get the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder pdf, if they have a issue with the escalation by themselves.
Yeah. It may be because of the date wasn't hot enaugh :( Thanks for the escalation ladder - i read it and it is sort of an eye opener...

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This friday, #closed in club. In fact she #closed me. I was just saying "ok we should meet up sometime" and smiled and she said "ok i will take your #".

Next day (technically same day) after about 10 hours I wrote her
(3) "Hey. Didn't you just meet extremelly cool guy yesterday at *club name* "
She: "Orly? :) and didn't you met some pretty miss?..."
(4): "Oh ye, there were few of them and one special girl was pretty impudent :-P" (she argued with me over something)

It's two days she didn't responded to (4). Is there sth particulary wrong? I it sounds to me funny :)

I freaked out she is not responding and day after it I wrote
(5) "Ok miss, how do you feel today?"

She didn't respond to (5) (24 hours) either. But imo (5) this is really needy...

What should I do? Writing them more messages seems to just project even more neediness.
I suppose you blew it with your (4) text, when you decided to call her "impudent", which could be interpreted in a ton of ways, good and bad. Don't use such big words, if you are unsure about your partner's capability to pick the right meaning out of them. That's a tip for the future.

I'd say give them a final try. But, these situations look dead in the water to me.
Ok I will try final one.

It is very annoying to get flakes. Not because I would care about the girls that much, but because of the hopelessness I feel that I am not in control of the outcome of the interaction with them.... Your constructive help gives me more motivation to continue with the game, thanks.


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Okay so this is about the girl that made me go into the game. We meet at a party and hit it off. But because I was AFC, I didn´t go after her.

Months later when my game is upgraded, I write to her and we have awesome conversation on facebook. I initiated writing her like once a couple on FB over two weeks, there was some good conversation. Then she went away however, but we said we would have a date when she got back (I did the slow game, since we have many mutual friends).

Anyway, I forgot about her and a month later we run into eachother at a party. It goes good, we talk alot. I get her number and we kiss and make out when she leaves.

then we start the text game

Sunday
Me - the misses reports in (inside joke)
her- already awake? good job!
me- you to, I slept like a baby
her- me to:)
yadayada
She stops answering suddenly, I figured it was because I waited too long to answer one text

Tuesday, I initiate again on FB though
ME: aliens are coming to kidnap all sexy warriors (her being a warrior is an inside joke). Don´t worry, you´re safe. I just wanted to say goodbye:)
her: haha what?
me: just wanted to let you know ;) I´m on a study break (study breaks is the excuse I used to chat her up a couple of months back)
her, like five hours later:haha okay
me: yeah, so you don´t happen to be kickass in astronomy?
her: sorry sorry
me: well youre pretty cool still:)
her: :)

Could I get some advice on what to do next?

From what I´ve heard she doesn´t date or kiss or sleep with alot of guys, so I thing I might have scared her of or something, as I have a reputaion

Edit: was just told by my friend that she said I kissed her. Kind of proves her insecurity. But I know she reached for me to kiss her aswell. My friend also told me that she doesnt like me but doesnt unlike me. Very cryptic. Hope this info helps


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Okay so this is about the girl that made me go into the game. We meet at a party and hit it off. But because I was AFC, I didn´t go after her.

Months later when my game is upgraded, I write to her and we have awesome conversation on facebook. I initiated writing her like once a couple on FB over two weeks, there was some good conversation. Then she went away however, but we said we would have a date when she got back (I did the slow game, since we have many mutual friends).

Anyway, I forgot about her and a month later we run into eachother at a party. It goes good, we talk alot. I get her number and we kiss and make out when she leaves.

then we start the text game

Sunday
Me - the misses reports in (inside joke)
her- already awake? good job!
me- you to, I slept like a baby
her- me to:)
yadayada
She stops answering suddenly, I figured it was because I waited too long to answer one text

Tuesday, I initiate again on FB though
ME: aliens are coming to kidnap all sexy warriors (her being a warrior is an inside joke). Don´t worry, you´re safe. I just wanted to say goodbye:)
her: haha what?
me: just wanted to let you know ;) I´m on a study break (study breaks is the excuse I used to chat her up a couple of months back)
her, like five hours later:haha okay
me: yeah, so you don´t happen to be kickass in astronomy?
her: sorry sorry
me: well youre pretty cool still:)
her: :)

Could I get some advice on what to do next?

From what I´ve heard she doesn´t date or kiss or sleep with alot of guys, so I thing I might have scared her of or something, as I have a reputaion

Edit: was just told by my friend that she said I kissed her. Kind of proves her insecurity. But I know she reached for me to kiss her aswell. My friend also told me that she doesnt like me but doesnt unlike me. Very cryptic. Hope this info helps
To be honest with you, you seem to be engaging in a lot of aimless drivel as opposed to meaningless conversation.

What is the idea behind your conversation, I can see a beginning but no ending. The general rule of any conversation is to start from a place and to follow a set path to reach a desired goal with the other person, generally involving improvisation on your part in accordance with the reply from theirs.

I want you to write down on a piece of paper what you want from a given conversation with her, then hold that paper in front of you while you're texting/calling her, so that you do not forget your main reason.

Even if it is something as obvious as "A Date"..

You will need to follow certain procedure, starting from small talk to deep conversation to asking her when she's free this week and that you'd like to take her out for drinks/coffee and such.

Follow a definitive route in your conversations and you'll never have a problem.

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Hi Don.

I was texting with this chick for quite long, and wasn't getting anywhere. Then I read
somewhere in this topic that you have to be direct and let her know what you want. Guess what? I think it worked.

ME(talking about exams): 2 down, 3 to go.at least I think:P. How's your studying/confidence about your term?

HER: Congrats, you little geek (when you give all exams, you'll be GIANT geek). I don't have the motivation or concetration, how do you force yourself to study?!?

Then I fell asleep. Texted her in the morning.

ME: I fell asleep.I'll tell you my secret when I see you. I think your problem is you can't focus because you're constantly thinking of me? :)

HER: haha, your cause-effect links are brilliant:). If I see you in person, then I won't be able to study at all!:p so, you're doin' good? what should I say about that...XD

ME: haha:). I'm not doing SO great, maybe I won't get an A's from these two I wrote yesterday! You see what you're doin' to me!:) Nooo, when you see me, then it'll be easier for you to concentrate :).

nothing.

ME: (this was a subtle call for a studying pause and drink :) )

HER: hihihi, yes I got it:)!! But I got my studying plan in order and I think I'm in my room next 10 days, maybe only in bar next to my house. so you're invited to come down here;).


Now, is it desperate to go on that, because she lives pretty far from where I live? I mean is it better to wait until her exams are over or what?

Also, I don't know what to text her next to keep building the escalation...
And what do you think, is there something happening at all?

Thanks in advance!

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I think even if it is far, it worth a try if u are really interested in the gal!
(if u are not that into her, just stay in your room)
the meeting should be targeting at kiss close at the most.
if things gone so great that she might invite u to her room,
I would think it is even better to neg her this time and tell her to concentrate on her studying 1st, and u will meet her again when she finish her exams!
for my experience, this work best for most chicks!


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Hi Don.

I was texting with this chick for quite long, and wasn't getting anywhere. Then I read
somewhere in this topic that you have to be direct and let her know what you want. Guess what? I think it worked.

ME(talking about exams): 2 down, 3 to go.at least I think:P. How's your studying/confidence about your term?

HER: Congrats, you little geek (when you give all exams, you'll be GIANT geek). I don't have the motivation or concetration, how do you force yourself to study?!?

Then I fell asleep. Texted her in the morning.

ME: I fell asleep.I'll tell you my secret when I see you. I think your problem is you can't focus because you're constantly thinking of me? :)

HER: haha, your cause-effect links are brilliant:). If I see you in person, then I won't be able to study at all!:p so, you're doin' good? what should I say about that...XD

ME: haha:). I'm not doing SO great, maybe I won't get an A's from these two I wrote yesterday! You see what you're doin' to me!:) Nooo, when you see me, then it'll be easier for you to concentrate :).

nothing.

ME: (this was a subtle call for a studying pause and drink :) )

HER: hihihi, yes I got it:)!! But I got my studying plan in order and I think I'm in my room next 10 days, maybe only in bar next to my house. so you're invited to come down here;).


Now, is it desperate to go on that, because she lives pretty far from where I live? I mean is it better to wait until her exams are over or what?

Also, I don't know what to text her next to keep building the escalation...
And what do you think, is there something happening at all?

Thanks in advance!
Well, that highlighted line seemed a bit awkward. You could've teased her with you being too much on her mind, instead you tried to justify that thought as way for her to concentrate better? Doesn't really make sense.

Also, you can ask yourself if driving all the way down there to see her is worth it or not? If it isn't, then keep texting and flirting, you're doing pretty good as of now.

One trick I use is to set up expectations, "When we meet, I'm gonna/You're gonna/We're gonna..." blah blah blah blah.

Women are imaginative beings, play to their imagination, get her to visualize what it'd be like when you both will meet and she'd want that to happen, assuming you are successful in painting a fun, hot picture.

Use that. Keep the flirting on. And be direct and honest with what you want. You'll get your rewards.

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Hi Don,

Can you list some witty lines of what to say on first texts?

I got this girl's number from class and I don't want to sound needy. :)

I think she might be interested in me from her body language and since she only talks to me in class and already asked me personal questions and such.

Just some funny humourous lines


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K well I initiated by saying

Me: Hey, its _______ you wont guess what just happened lol
HB9: _____ who? ( Apparently she has a lot of friends with a similar name )

5 Mins Later
Me: From Math Class
HB9: Oh haha what?

around 3 hours later

Me: I wrecked my car due to some senior driver merging onto my lane crazy

No response yet, I think I might've fucked up on something :/

Ironically she only talks to me at class, I guess she's only leading me...

Should I pursue or move on?


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Ok I managed to reinitiate a convo w both blondes. Now,I wonder what is the best answer in the following situation (goal is to make her look forward to our date more):

On Saturday morning after probably 10 messages since convo started again

Me: Good morning, uff had to get up early today and slept only 3h.:( what kind of preparation for your special even? Some Friday party?;)
Her: good morning=) what a pleasant wake up... We had planned to go to the city but in the end wen just had a Tullamor party at home. Where did you hang out?

Now I didn't realize she meant that I did the nice wake up and I just followed through with my initial plan of showing value

Me: yesterday we decided to go to the (foreign country) because therer was this rapper (famous rap rapper) (Bla bla).

She: Tss, we will wait until he gets to (Our city). Btw you didn't say! I would go immediately!:P

I am not sure what to respond to such over positive response. maybe just follow on positive note so that she feels comfortable writing in such a way? (eg "I charge kiss per kilometer;-)" or "you would distract me from driving too much. We would have to have sex before the ride;)" or "you would love it it was party all night. He was crazy good. And then chillout ride home under clear night sky") Or should I go with something like "I know, but it was a men ride :P" or some disqualification like "we decided the last minute, I didn't think you was that spontaneous;)".


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Hi Don
i've some progress with the hb with bf..
basically we have done most everything touch each other etc.. except F-close

i kinda like this girl but the major cockblock is she is still stuck with her bf...

some text that HB sent me .

HB: i can't love two people at the sametime...
HB: comes to a point i have to make a decision..
ME: yea
HB: And i dont want to make that decision..
HB: I really love you...

then after this we went into sex texting ...


do you have any advise how i should progress next ? run BFD to destroy her bf ? i tried run the tyler BFD style and but she got mad when i said she and her bf looks like a perfect match... lol


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I have a Question, not sure if it's been asked before or not, but what do you suggest on the topics used in the sexual 'zone' of texting, also called 'sexting'. How do you keep the girl turned on for longer periods of time? I've read alot of your information on this forum and I'm really impressed.
You know your stuff.
Well done.

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Hi there, this is my 1st post, I'm a newbie so please don't be too harsh, great community btw.
So, I met this girl 2 times, both in seminars at uni and we had a few chats there. Found her on facebook (this is a bit more than month after the last time we met) and here's the log:

11 January
Me: Hey, I know you :P (I sent the message without a friend request)

12 January
(She sends me a friend request)


A week later

19 January
Her: Hi, how are you doing?
[name of the class we went to] right? :)

19 January
Me:Doing good, and you? Still no results though, and the anticipation is killing me! :(

(talking about the results from the exams)

20 January
Her: same here, keep checking every day.. im ok, working for now, dont wanna get back to uni :P

20 January
Me: haha I can't wait to go back to uni! I'm feeling so bored that I actually started downloading the seminars and reading the textbooks for the next semester (which never happens) ..

20 January
Her: omg so not me lol but if i wouldnt be working pbb would be bored too..

I haven't responded anything yet, and she has a birthday today. I'm thinking of sending her just a simple message "Hey, Happy birthday! :)" . Then she would say thanks, and next thing is I ask her out, something like 'Do you want to get a cup of coffee sometime this week?' and that's my plan I guess. Another option is to find her in the lectures or seminars but that could take some time.. What do you think I should do?

P.S. very often while we were talking she gets a bit nervous and starts fidgeting, like cracking her pen, shaking her leg etc. So I guess she is feeling insecure, and that's why she waited a whole week before replying to my message, and this is also the reason I am trying to keep things simple and not to neg her.. I'd like to spice things up but don't really know how to put it that way without sounding like a prick.


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