You were behaving like a friend.

Thus..
You were friend-zoned and the remaining part is just insignificant stuff, cause she's just moaning about her failure to convert bad boys to good. Don't read too much into it.

Tell her, "I am sorry but I cannot be just friends with you. I obviously feel something greater which you don't. That's fine. Good luck to you ahead." or something similar.

Basically, it's not the message but the post-message which is important. You need to freeze this girl out till you've enough women in your life which will offer you the perspective which you have lost so badly right now.

Also, without physical escalation every single pick-up might as well not take place. Remember that.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

It's basic stuff. Browse the forum for getting past ASD. Or just get any basic pick-up material. That stuff is given in everything.
Well, could just be buyer's remorse. And that's the most likely option.

It was NYE, she had fun, made out with a random guy, almost slept with him. Things happen. It was a party. She could afford to be a bit reckless that time.

However, now that she is in control of her senses she has realized that she isn't as interested in you. So, she doesn't bother replying.

Simple, really.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Okay fair enough, cant disagree with what you said. However since I posted something happened...she's on pay as you go for blackberry (BIS) so her service was scheduled to go off tomorrow...so I simply mentioned it and she flirted with me saying she'll get withdrawal symptoms if she doesnt have it and used winking etc emoticons. i simply said lol:p.

Now i know that's nothing super huge lol...but i talk to her bff alot...do u think i should ask her bff about it? i think that's wrong personally lol but just seeking another opinion.

I personally can stop talkin to her quite easily, I just wanna be certain before lol

There's this HB9 that's new at work, would really like to f-close. When I see her at work, I've been playing it C&F, using negs when appropriate. When we're talking in person, she finds openings for kino, and manipulated things for me to watch her changing to her work clothes.

We don't get much time to talk at work, but I got her number on her first day, past few days (pretty much since she mentioned that she has a boyfriend) she's been texting me on her breaks, and after work until she goes to bed.

This was most of our conversation when she texted me on her break.

HB9: Heey! I can't come out this weekend! lemme know next though kaie!
Me: Shame you've got to miss the fun, no worries though
HB9: I know... I'm just not feeling up to par.. Ill explain why next time I work
Me: The suspense will be killing me for days. Better to tell me now. ;p
HB9: I wanna wait till it actually happens to tell everyone..
HB9: You'll be the first I tell though.. Promise!!!

Right looking for some advice basically quite new to all this (virgin) just recently read the game and trying to turn my sex life round

But anyway I manged to kiss a girl last night and got her number etc.

So basically texted her a bit today but I can tell that the small talk is already starting to get a bit thin.

Any advise on keeping the attraction going and moving it on to arranging to meet ?

Looks like my earlier post got cut off, for reasons unknown. Have to repost the full thing in a little bit.

Well, it seems that the post is just too long, so I'll summarize.

She told me she had some news that she was going to tell people later, which I neg'd her on when she didn't just come out and tell me. As usual when interacting with her, I stay C&F, and change the subject or add a non sequitur every so often to keep things in my frame.

I got her into a game of 'Never have I ever...' on the pretext that another HB I know was doing poorly and asking me for help. The first one HB9 came up with was "Never have I ever had sex in an elevator", which I made a joke with later saying "Apparently only two people drank for the elevator one. Awkward." which got a laugh.
The one time she came up with one that wasn't sexual, I neg'd her on it, which brought things back to where I wanted them. I kept that going until she went to bed, pretty easy since she seemed into it, and that was about it for last night.

Ok good call. Thanks brotha

HB9 dumped her boyfriend today, texted to tell me this morning.

She texted me a bit after work before calling her now ex-boyfriend.
Afterward, I used an adaptation of Mystery's ESP routine on her via text. Gave her both numbers at once,

Me: The first, 3. Then... 7.
HB9: How... I'm confused...
Me: We just have a really great connection I guess.

Blew her mind (cheers to Mystery), then went on with

Me: Makes sense really. You want more fun in your life. Fun is what I do best.
HB9: You're right, I do.

Said she had to go because her eyes hurt from crying and mascara, so this is what I said.

Me: Blown off twice in one night? Ouch.
HB9: I'm really sorry, my eyes are really sore. Breakups are hard.
Me: Alright. I'll let you make it up to me tomorrow.

Trying to get in more DHVs now, and tomorrow I'll let her 'make it up to me' by escalating/compliance. She's said repeatedly she wants me to take her out to a club/party, but my nights are filled until the weekend. Any suggestions?

I think that I am receiving 2 flakes simultaneously now from 2 blondes. I think its because in my texts I am projecting too much neediness. Can you verify please?

Blonde 1:
I wrote about this one in this thread. Meet with her in a club. K-close, direct game, #close. I came off as a confident guy.
Text game was great, she responded fast etc. We set up meeting fast for a pool and she said she enjoyed it because it wasn't some typical date.
Now she is starting to not responding to my texts. I noticed that I always initiate convo (sending her text almost every day) and that the texts might be interpreted as needy. For example:
**writes sth that has bad mood because of sbd**
I write her next day: (1) What happend? Work related or sth personal?
or another I wrote to her: (2) How you doing kiddo? omg sth reminded me of you today....

It's 24 hours and she didn't responded to (2).

Blonde 2:
This friday, #closed in club. In fact she #closed me. I was just saying "ok we should meet up sometime" and smiled and she said "ok i will take your #".

Next day (technically same day) after about 10 hours I wrote her
(3) "Hey. Didn't you just meet extremelly cool guy yesterday at *club name* "
She: "Orly? and didn't you met some pretty miss?..."
(4): "Oh ye, there were few of them and one special girl was pretty impudent " (she argued with me over something)

It's two days she didn't responded to (4). Is there sth particulary wrong? I it sounds to me funny

I freaked out she is not responding and day after it I wrote
(5) "Ok miss, how do you feel today?"

She didn't respond to (5) (24 hours) either. But imo (5) this is really needy...

What should I do? Writing them more messages seems to just project even more neediness.

Greetings from Denmark!

I've followed this thread for a long time, and it has given me a lot of valuable tips on text gaming, but now I have a problem of my own that requires help - so here goes:

I met this girl at a local bar about a week ago. She's kinda in my social circle, meaning that we've got quite a lot of friends in common, but we did not know each other personally. Last friday she came up to me while I was talking to one of our mutual friends, and we got into conversation and had a lot of fun. We ended up dancing, but at the end of the night she disappeared and I went home.

She had told me to find her on facebook, and so I did. I got her phone number without problems and started texting her. In the beginning everything was going well. I used a lot of call-back humor from the night we met, while also getting to know her better.

But suddenly the conversation died out, even though I tried to bring in new and interesting topics. She didn't answer me, so I decided to wait a day and text again. She answered, but very shortly, and she did not seem very interested. So I decided to stop texting her and deleted her number.

This saturday evening she suddenly texted me, asking me if I planned to go out. I played it a little formal and told her maybe, and she seemed very excited to see me again. I ended up going out with a couple of friends, and she came to the bar where I was to see me. Unfortunately, she had to leave almost immediately, so I couldn't close her, but we did text back and forth while she was on her way home.

Yesterday I texted her again, and conversation was fine. She invested as much as me, but it didn't seem to escalate, and the conversation was a bit static. This is where I need help. She seems kind of reserved, and I'm not really getting that closer to her, and I was hoping to get some help on how to move conversation to the next level and set up a day two. So here's a sample of last nights texting, translated from danish:

ME: Did you get home safe last night?
HER: Yes, I did How about you?
ME: Yes, but very late! So I'm looking forward to going home and relax tonight.
HER: You haven't been home yet?
ME: Yeah, but I had to get up early to look at an apartment. So now I've got a date with my duvet.
HER: Was the apartment nice? I've longed for my bed as well!

...

ME: I feel like watching a good movie. Can you recommend one?
HER: I can recommend handball on TV2 (danish TV-channel) But The Butterfly Effect is a pretty good movie.
ME: I had forgotten! Are you into handball?
HER: It's exciting I've played myself.
ME: I think so too Why don't you play anymore?
HER: Haven't got the time And I like running better.
ME: Were you any good? I run a bit as well - I should do it more often.
HER: Hm, after 7 years of practice I should be able to play okay.
HER: Yeah, I should run more often too
ME: I hope so I suck at handball, so I stick to soccer. Are you training for anything special?
HER: Soccer is great too I'm planning to run the Copenhagen Marathon. My training programme begins tomorrow, so I've got 20 weeks.
ME: Cool! How did you get that idea?
HER: Because I've done it before
ME: Awesome! Then you can - almost - outrun me
HER: I'm not at my best now, but I will be
ME: If you need me to drive behind you and cheer for you while training, just say the word
HER: Haha, like that would help, but thanks
ME: I'm pretty good at it! How fast did you ran your last marathon?
HER: It wasn't a marathon, but 58,5 km on 6 hours - and a half-marathon on 2 hours.
ME: That's quite good. I suppose you have a goal for this years marathon.
HER: Yeah, or maybe Depends on how my training goes. But I'm off to bed - goodnight.
ME: Goodnight. Sweet dreams.

I hope the sample isn't too long. As you can see, I have no problem making conversation through text, but I'm having trouble taking it to the next level and get her to commit to a day two. I hope you can give me some advice on what to do next, and what I could have done different.

Thanks in advance.

Well, if you talk to her BFF, that is gonna make it's way back to her and she won't be as appreciative of the fact. She's just trying to engage you in an aimless pattern desired to fulfill her need to feel validated and given attention by you. Catch yourself before it's too late.

If it is indeed so easy to stop talking to her, stop talking to her. Find your perspective.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Yeah, well, seems to be that this is just a normal conversation. I mean there's not any obvious signs of attraction, not even some basic form of flirting in here. Perhaps the conversation shown here is too small to say, but that is all that I am going on at the moment.

If you think that she is indeed manipulating things for you to escalate the situation with her, then go ahead and do that. You can always know if her intention was that or not, depending on the outcome of your escalation.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Well, you need to be able to engage her in topics which are more meaningful then, and require long discussion. Scroll up and look for the post in which I have clearly outlined such topics.

Another tip for you is to make your intention clear to her. Beating around the bush bullshit gets old real fast and women would rather appreciate you being direct and honest about what you want from them, in the best interest of yours and hers time.

Don't be afraid to sexualize or flirt with her. In the big picture, it's just another step to the desired outcome.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

Well, seems to me you've a clear idea in your head about what you are going to do with her. I also fail to spot a question being asked in your post. Go ahead. Try it out. Come back here, if you have a doubt with your strategy.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "