I (vaguely) know a few attractive girls who have been single for months/years at a time, and I just can't understand why. They're not all super-hot 10s, but they are quite attractive and they must get approached by guys. Would it be that that they're extremely picky, or they somehow only hang around with or get asked out by losers, or do they just have personality issues? But personality in an attractive girl is very unimportant, so how could their personality affect their dating? :S

WTF?

Oh come on, this whole site is about getting attractive girls in bed. Who the fuck cares about their personality, when you're having sex you're not gonna be having a conversation or discussing her interests are you?! This site values HB10s, HB9s & HB8s in terms of being hot babes, not NP10s, NP9s & NP8s ('Nice' Personality 10,9,8 )!

In fact, if a girl's overall value depends on a combination of her looks and her personality, then for a given overall value of girl, the worse her personality is the better she'll look! Therefore if a guy could only get (afford) a girl of a given overall value, it's obviously best to pick the girls with crap personalities because they will look great. Similarly, if you were buying a computer you might want one with a 500GB hard drive (looks) & a 5GHZ processor (personality). But if you only had a budget of say £500 and thus could only afford a certain overall calibre of computer, you might have a choice between a 10GB hard drive & a 5GHz processor or a 500GB hard drive & a 1GHz processor. If all you're interested in is storing movies/data on it (sex), you would obviously pick the one with a 500GB hard drive & a 1GHz processor, because the processor is (practically) irrelevant for what you want the computer for (data storage/sex).

Anyway, most people have decent personalities, it doesn't matter as long as she's not a psycho killer or something, and even then you'd just get your rocks off with her and GTFO before she tries to kill you haha.

You have a lot to learn. I think you've got the whole idea of pickup wrong. I really don't even know where to start in order to explain this to you, but you really need to re-read what you have written and think about whether you really think what you say is true.

Do you disagree with the essence of my computer analogy, i.e. that you could sacrifice personality, intelligence & wealth in a woman you seek, in order to maximise her beauty? If you targeted a hot babe who was very poor, very thick and had a 'bad personality' (whatever that means :S), could those poor qualities offset her hotness to reduce her overall value and make her affordable for an average guy to date? In the same way that if an average guy with an average budget wanted a computer with a large hard drive, he would have to sacrifice processor speed, RAM, screen size, etc. in order to be able to afford a computer with the large hard drive he needs.

This assumes that the following equation holds:

Your looks + your personality + your intelligence + your wealth = Her looks + her personality + her intelligence + her wealth

If the above holds, suppose your total is X. Then you can only afford a girl whose total is no greater than X. Therefore, couldn't you just go for a girl who had zero personality, zero intelligence and zero wealth, in order to maximise her looks? With a scale from 1 to 10 for each category and equal weightings, this might look something like:

4 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 10 + 0 + 0 + 0

As you can see, although this guy is barely average, he has picked a girl with zero personality, zero intelligence & zero wealth, but she has 10/10 for looks - RESULT!

Another, smart, guy might have this formula:
4 + 3 + 7 + 6 = 10 + 0 + 10 + 0

As you can see, he is a pretty decent guy in many respects, but he only cares about looks and intelligence in girls, so he has maximised them while minimising the other, useless, categories, in order to get the kind of girl he needs.

If not, surely that means that personality is irrelevant and the only important characteristic of a woman (in dating terms) is her looks/beauty/hotness, i.e.:

Your looks = Her looks


Which of these equations & assumptions hold and which don't?

Fucking hell...you're clearly only in this for the conquest of screwing women over. I even get a hint of revenge motivation from you; conquer the hot women, because some HB rejected you years ago. With your attitude of disrespect for women, I'm curious how often you actually successfully get a woman in your bed. A successful Lothario has the utmost admiration for women, values us for the beautiful, intelligent, fun, and hot creatures we are. Until you see us in the same light, you will never truly be successful, and by the time you truly want a relationship with an all-around gorgeous lady (inside and out) we'll all be wise to your true nature and won't give you the time of day.

Let me ask you this, why would a hot guy be single? I can tell you the answer is pretty much going to be the same for both. The answer being that there are a wide range of reasons why both are single. It can be anywhere from them being nothing but an empty shell, to their personality to what ever. Its really take your pick. Trying to understand why is really a waste of time.
Sorry my friend but personality is important, as personality is part of their looks and more importantly makes the girl WHO she is. Saying personality is not that important is saying its not that important if you got a Ferrari with a basic 130hp 4cyl engine made by Toyota. As the body of the car is more important according to you, but part of having/driving/etc a Ferrari is that v6 engine roaring as you push the gas petal and going fast along with the looks of the car.
You says you have to sacrifice anything at all? You seem have never heard of shopping around for the best deal.

No, I don't want to screw them over, I just want to screw them. Once I find a hot girl who deems me good enough to have sex with her, I'll just make her my girlfriend and hopefully marry her.
No, I just want a romantic relationship with a girl who can turn me on with her beauty, funnily enough! Is there something wrong with that basic fundamental need? :S
Well never, because I'm a virgin, excluding escorts. To be completely honest, I've NEVER had the chance to kiss any decent-looking girl in my life without her being a prostitute - talk about deprived eh. I'm just trying to find a decent/hot-looking girl who will let me have sex with her, so I don't have to commit suicide due to feelings of worthlessness caused by my constant epic sexual failure. I'm sure there are plenty of decent-looking girls who work for the Samaritans, so it's ironic that decent-looking girls all have the ability to easily prevent my suicide, but they don't give a shit because I'm not a tall charismatic pretty boy with 'game'.
No, a successful Lothario is one who is capable of having lots of sexy girls want to have sex with him. He might pretend to have the 'utmost admiration' you speak of, and he may even have it, but this is really irrelevant when it comes to getting girls to actually want you.
No, I'll begin to be successful when I start getting girls to actually want me!


Oh you're a woman, trust you to pretend personality etc. is important. Women seem to be full of this 'be yourself, you'll find the right girl some day' bullshit for some reason. :S I don't care about 'the right girl', I seriously just want any decent-looking girl who will have me!

But I'm just genuinely wondering why. My first thought would be that they're just extremely picky, and are 'waiting for the right person', but you seem to dispute this? By the way, let's assume they live in a culture which frowns upon any sexual activity outside of relationships, i.e. one night stands, so are unable to 'enjoy the single life' by sleeping/kissing around.
But surely regardless of personality, hot girls are all the same in bed, to look at, kiss and shag! Anyway what exactly makes a 'bad personality'? Most people all seem quite samey and fine to me, personality-wise.
I'm more concerned with getting any bloody deal at all mate! Could an average guy get a hot girl if she was penniless, extremely thick and had no personality? Would these negative characteristics offset her beauty enough to make her affordable (dating-wise) to the average Joe?

actually one good reason hot women are single is that men are afraid to approach them or assume they are taken.

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As I said take your pick. Because there is no holly grail answer here. Some hot girls are single because they are too picky, some are single as guys don't approach them as Mack mention. There is no one answer, guys not approach them is more than likely going to be the biggest reason as to why, but there are other reasons why they could be single.
And every car you drive is the same no? Point being like cars every girl is different, yes they all got the same parts, but just because they got the same parts in no way means they will be the same on the road or in bed. As far as bad personalities goes, its really any personality that is a turn off or deters you away from the girl and doesn't make you interested in the girl. Yes most girls do have good personalities, but this does not mean they may have personality traits that are a turn.
Stop being so desperate. As far as your question goes, yes an average guy can do that but why would you want such a thing? By the way you can get a hot girl that isn't broke and be able to take her out on affordable dates as an average joe. Why you think you need to spend more money on hot girls is beyond me. I done nothing more than coffee dates with hot girls and most had no issues with it.

Or maybe just make one big fucking deal over there attractive looks. Theres lots of reason's why hot women are single, you can't just pin one reason on it without arguing with another. I see a lot of guys fail because they take a woman's looks too far, making the woman look more superior to them. One reason i'd like to contribute is that there single because men take there looks as an automatic "no". I live in a small town and i know who some of the well-known hotties are, a lot of guys just make too much of a big deal out of how hot they and at the end of the day they come out with nothing. I know i'm no better thats for sure, but i at least try to grasp a basic understanding on how i shouldn't go overboard with a woman's looks.

From my personal experience.
I haven't talked to this young lady since, and I can certainly understand why no one else wants to date her. She's a good looking girl, certainly, but her personality, her financial state and her attitude had a very distinctive impact on her value to me as a potential sex partner.

I wouldn't fuck the girl with danthedan's dick.

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Why not? If she was physically attractive, why on Earth wouldn't you fuck her?! The only time a girl's personality becomes relevant is if she actively prevents you from having sex with her.

Hmm I guess.
I don't understand what you mean at all. The only thing that would deter me from a girl is if she was fat, ugly or didn't deem me to be sexually good enough for her. Me turning down a girl for her personality would be like a starving homeless tramp turning down a delicious sandwich because it had the 'wrong' brand of mayonaisse.
No I don't mean affordable in financial terms, I mean can the guy 'afford' the girl in the sense that the girl thinks the guy is sexually good enough for her. I'm talking about erotic capital, not financial capital! I've realised over time how utterly insignificant financial capital (money) is compared to erotic capital (looks). Not only is the exchange rate between the two very high, but erotic capital never gets used up! It only expires when the girl reaches her 30s/40s, and even then the change is so gradual you don't even notice if you're with her all that time.