what's up everyone.. I've decided to use this forum not only to learn new things and help develop my game, starting from square one here, but also to log my progress and help others learn from the many mistakes and bad situations I'm sure I'll get myself into.

A Little About Me

I'm a 21 year old music student from Guildford in the UK. I'm the opposite of unsociable, verging on alcoholic lol, and I wouldn't describe myself as bad with girls but there are things in my life I want to change. I've been out of one relationship and strait into another since I was 16 and thankfully all the girls have been pretty hot. The way I've lived my life thus far has made me a good boyfriend but to be honest whilst I was learning about how to keep a woman happy in the long run, I missed out learning how to pick one up because meeting new women was always about making them my friend rather than getting them sexually attracted to me. I always just fell into relationships with out really knowing how I did it except for being myself. Anyway I'm recently single again and have decided that its time for me to master the art of Pick Up, as I'm sure all of the people on this forum will agree its an valuable skill. I'm starting out with the Mystery's Method but my long term goal, no matter how long it takes is to become more natural and have routines, gambits ect only to open and fall back on in tough situations. I should mention as well that I have been implementing the stuff I've recently learnt for two/ three weeks now just in night game. i've have had a bit of luck... a few numbers and kiss closes and two F closes, not sure how to be honest because looking back at it I ballsed up pretty much every aspect of the game plan every time lol.. also, although my post will read Day 1, Day 2 ect.. these may not be consecutive as they are referring to days/ nights of game.

DAY 1.. first attempt at day game... FAIL FAIL FAIL!!!!!

So I woke up this morning/ afternoon and decided its as good a day as any to go to Guildford high street and wander around like a lemon chatting girls up. Shouldn't be to difficult right... WRONG!!!! my goal was to approach three chicks and just talk and see how far I could get the conversation to go, reserving the idea of an instant coffee date if she was smokin' and obviously diggin me. I wrote up a quick routine last night that goes as follows...

Me - Hey excuse me, do you know if there are any specialist sweet (candy for you yanks out there lol) shops around here..

HB - yes/ no (possible directions)

Me - Ah okay thanks, I'm just trying to find a Christmas present for my little sister and she went fucking nuts the other day when she saw one of those huge lolly pop things on tv... I figured it would be a good present and I just want her to have a good Christmas you know.

HB - ah cool sounds like a good present (maybe awww, dont really know what i expected there)

BODY ROCK!!!!

Me - Actually you know what, while I'm talking to you I need a female opinion on something. I cant stay long cos my mates are waiting for me at *****. I just got of the phone from my best buddy right..... he's got a problem with this girl friend... (Run photo's and love letter under the bed routine)... is that normal female behaviour?

HB - Answer...

after this I didn't have much of a game plan except to try to disqualify myself and playfully neg her on her answer. I had a few idea's for carrying the conversation on from there but the goal was to get the hook down and concentrate on body language, smile, tone.. you know just being friendly and see what happens.

Sooooo.... all this planning and I chickened out at every opportunity. I swear to god that EVERY girl that's on her own is on her damn phone. Maybe I was being picky with targets and only wanting to try on a 1 set but it was WAY more difficult than I though it was going to be. I mean I've got balls, I play big gigs, I enjoy free climbing and generally take as many risks as possible... you know I'm not usually the kind of guy to not even try but damn! I feel stupid now and it seems so ridiculous because I was gonna open by doing little more than asking for directions which is something I do all the time anyway. I think a wing would help but I don't know anyone in Guildford that I would want to share this side of my life with, I'm a little embarrassed of it :s.

Anyway tomorrow is a new day and considering I feel so stupid now I WONT/CANT let myself do that again. I'm off out tonight as well so will probably have some stories for you all in the morning, let hope there good ones.

Peace out,

Freak

Here is the thing it looks like only one approch. You should be doing around 10 approaches. You need to practice and not base it off the one approach. Other wise great job just getting that first approch out of the way. Get use to just talking. You will be fine. After that we can move to the next step.

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yeah you are right man, I actually didn't manage to approach anyone yesterday day time. Like I said near the end of my post I felt so stupid yesterday so I am back out today and currently sitting in start bucks, commercialism at its best. I'm just going to wright a quick post of last nights antics then In a minuet I'm gonna have a walk around again. My goal is to approach at least 5 sets. I'm not gonna be picky, I'm not gonna chicken out, I'm just gonna go and have some fun and be that refreshing guy on the street with the balls to actually approach women...... I may be pumping my self up just a little bit right now lol... anyway thank-you comments buddy and I'm gonna take your advice.

freak

Day 1. Night game - growing in confidence.

I find night game much easier than day game. I've been doing it for a few weeks now but not really with much structure. Last night I had more of a plan so I put on some decent shreds, got pissed whilst practising some lines, body language, smile ect in the mirror and headed to my student union opening party.... **side note - If there's one thing that I've learnt recently your smile is your best peacocking tool**.... I got there and walked in with a huge smile on my face, my uni is relatively small and so i know a lot of the people there and in reflection I kinda acted like the jocks in american high school films walking down the corridor high 5ing everyone.... I didn't literally go around screaming "up high" at people holding my arm up but you get the idea. I'm usually way to shy to make an entrance like that and so its the first time I've ever done it. The reaction I got was awesome.. I would have a quick conversation with everyone I knew on the way to the bar and I realise that all these different girls (and guys actually) were looking at me and some even randomly introducing themselves when I was talking to someone in there circle to me... one girl i share a few classes with and don't even know that well, HB 7, ran up and Koala hugged me sayin' in my ear "Yay, you came".... I replied "hay, at least by me a drink before you try to rape me"...**she laughs**

One of the rules I've given myself is to not play around with to many people from my uni because its small and I don't want it to all catch up with me. Doesn't mean I'm not going to game the girls, I'm just not gonna act on the vast majority of them. Anyway, at the union I just mingled and practised dominating every conversation I was in and had some fun. Later I headed over to a place called 'spoons' with a pretty huge crowd. Here however, I don't know the girls... Game On!!!!

As soon as I got there I saw a good mate (lets call him Timmy, this guys a 6foot 5 semi professional rugby player, usually holds himself like he just bench pressed the world, thank-you style). but there was something a bit off about him last night so I asked him if he was all right. Didn't expect what happened next...

He proceeded to tell me how over the last few months he got into the game and has gotten pretty good at it. **so I'm not the only one gaming in Guildford**.. he's been playing any number of girls at a time and its not my story to tell but the long and shot of it is that he fucked up his one itis by doing a freeze out the other night and making her sleep on the floor, it was supposed to only be for a few minuets but he accidentally fell asleep and she slept there all night... this obviously didn't go down well and when he woke up in the morning she was leaving.. he only realised afterwards that he really liked the girl and felt terrible because he had treated a good person like a one night stand. To top it off this girl had travelled for about two hours to see him.... he's now is trying to find a way to get her back. Good luck timmy.....

okay back to my night...

Whilst in spoons I spent most of the time talking to Timmy and trying to help him out.... then the group and i moved over to a bar called Farenhight (otherwise known as farenshite).

I started opening a few girls here and there just getting into the mood when I caught the eye of a small waisted, big breasted, blond HB9.... Target picked!.. I opened a 4 set next to her, 2 girls and 2 guys, with who lies more men or women? worked like a charm and everyone had there point to make. I dominated the conversation and got the guys to conspire with me about how it was definitely women. with my new found skills i realised that everyone's body language was showing that I was the centre of the conversation and I gotta be honest, that was a huge confidence boost.... My buddy (drunk as hell) walks past and gives me a huge greeting (DHV me with out even realising it, thanks mate aha)... he has obviously seen the HB9 standing near us and says in my ear.. "that girl is fucking stunning man".. it was a bit of a dick move knowing what i know these days but i say say to him"well tell her man". He walks towards her and starts talking.

I turn back to my set and start to say, "so how do you guys all know each other?"...

Mid sentence i head the words "my mate over there" pointing at me escape my buddy's lips "he thinks your stunning and....."

wow!,,, he just fucked up my game!! lol


I think - oh well there's plenty more fish in the sea and the set I'm in have just told me that there all just mates so I figured I'll just stick to the girl to me left... a brunette HB7.

Next thing I know is the HB9 come up behind me, tapps me on the shoulder and simply says "HI"

Me - Hi

Her - So were you gonna come and talk to me then?

Me - **playing dumb** sorry do I know you?

Her - No but your friend said blah blah blah...

Me - **laughing** ah oh really did he, that's what he said he thought about you to me... I'll admit your a good looking girl but it takes more to impress me than looks. what makes you different to all the other attractive girls in this place?

Her - blah blah blah, good friend...

this girl is obviously pretty drunk and I see her friend looking over protectively so I decide to take the opportunity to get over the obstacle..

Me - i always think that you can tell a lot about someone by the company they keep.... introduce me to your friend.

Her - are you testing me?

me - Yes, I don't just let anyone get in my pants..... is that a problem??

Her - **laughing** okay okay, this is sandy.

Me - hi sandy, I've heard a lot about you apparently you guys are best friends. (made a point of not giving my name because i wanted to get the IOI)... do you wanna do the best friends test?...

I ran the routine and then almost ignoring the HB9 except for occasionally rewarding her with kino and a warm smile for funny things she says i keep talking to sandy.

After 5 mins of small talk and the 5 question game on sandy I say to her...

me - can I barrow your friend for a bit, I think she's cute and I want to get to know her better (i say this making sure that HB9 hears me)

Her - **exchange of smiles between sandy and HB9** yeah no problem, come back and see us all in a bit though yeah

me -okay, I will

she makes me pinky promise (apparently that's like and unbreakable bond, women ay lol)

I take the HB9 by the hand and lead her outside so i can had a cigarette.

we chat for a bit and I show her some magic and run the cube on her.... there's heavy kino going on now... i decide that its time to start building comfort so I take it down a notch and start actually getting to know her.. still playful of course.

we carry on talking and head back inside... things are going well and I'm starting to notice her looking at my lips and other IOI.. I'm about to pull the trigger when one of her guy friends comes over and says were leaving.. she says yeah sure I'll be out in two mins but the douch bag doesn't leave.... FUCK!!!!!

I turn my attention towards him and befriend him and then after a min or so of conversation I go strait back into the conversation me and HB9 were having before this guy turned up... he gets shut out and leaves... Boom! plan successful.

I change my tactics and decide to go for this girls phone number instead of a k close. In reflection, i should have gone for it but hay... mistakes are made.

me - I should probably get back to my friends now anyway. you've stolen me for like half an hour..

her - haha, you never even told me your name....

me - Hi i'm *******.. whats your name? (acting like a school yard child)

her - **playing along in a baby voice, GOD I HATE BABY VOICES, lol** Hi i'm yasmin

I give her a big hug and she kisses me on the cheek.... I'm not sure if i misread the situation but i think she was aiming for my lips..... DAMN

me - it was really nice meating you, you've got a good vibe about you....... i tell you what give me your phone number and we'll go out some time.

Her - sure, I dont come to Guildford a lot though.

Me - well now you've got a reason too... **wink**

she gives me a sexy smile.. and we exchange phone numbers.

she says again that it was really nice meeting me and I give her a smile and walk over to sandy and give her a big hug and say. "take it easy babe, nice meeting you" she says pretty much the same back.

I am pretty happy with myself at this point and walk over to my friends, my drunk buddy that almost stitched me up says. "I didn't think what I said would actually work"... i laugh and give him credit for what just went down... little does he know lol.

i spend the rest of the night drinking with my friends and just before i go home some hands creep over my eyes and a familiar voice says guess who...

As mentioned in my first post, in the last few weeks I have taken a few girls home and it turns out to be the most recent one..

Simply put, I didn't spend the night alone..


okay so this ESSAY took me ages to right so hope you enjoyed it... if anyone has made it this far any suggestions about how I should text Yasmin would be welcome. This girl is stunning and would like to see her again!!... remember she was very drunk and may not remember me.

All in all I think last night was good progress. I would have liked to have done more approaches but I figured why should i leave a perfectly good set when it was going well.

body language - 6/10 - need to be more relaxed and lean back.
Smile - 8.5/10 - starting to get that down now.
Tone - 6/10 - could be more expressive
game - 6.5/10 - i think i was luck last night and if i want to have consistent success with HB9's then i will have to up my game.

thanks for reading guys - off to do some day game now. Hopefully the new confidence will help me out.


Freak

just a quick update on my last post even though it was only a few hours ago but i decided to have a look through some of the text openers on here and found "so what kind of trouble have you been causing today then?" - - just sent that to Yasmin so we'll see what happens, if she doesn't reply.. then I know I have to make more of an impression next time.

Day 2 - Day Game

So I'm gonna keep this one pretty short because I spent so long righting that essay earlier but I finally approached today. I used the same routine that I said I was gonna use the other day and it worked perfectly. I approached 6 girls and although all the conversations were relatively short and sweet I got good vibes back from all the girls.... one memorable HB that I haven't actually included in my list of approaches because she actually approached me was one of those massage people you occasionally get in malls. a 25ish year old HB 7.5/8

the conversation when something like this. i was walking along when she said

Her - excuse me sir, can I interest you in a massage.

Me -**even though she was wearing a special uniform I jokefully said**... Wow... do you offer ever random guy you see on the street massages, at least get to know me first.

Her - **playing along** haha, yeah I just cant help it... you just looked so tense though.

Me - haha, yeah well you know.. I was bench pressing the world yesterday (once again thank-you style). how much you gonna rip me off for then?

Her - oh wow you must be sore.. well its supposed to be 5 pounds for 10 mins but just so you dont feel ripped off how about I give you five mins extra for free.

Me - you know what I'm gonna be strait with you... I'm a student and I spent all my money on booze last night. I don't even have enough to get back home for Christmas right now.

Her - awww... **says quietly** okay well don't tell anyone but how about i just give you the five mins for free anyway.

Me - well when you put it like that there's no way I can say no.

I sit down in the chair and start getting a massage. I make small talk with her, tell her about my sister and her incredible massages.... (she's fully trained as well) and playfully tease her about general stuff. She must of kept going for at least 15mins and we had a really nice conversation. I told her I am gonna come back everyday from now on and she said "well wait until Thursday cos I'm not working tomorrow" and then gave me an extra strong squeeze. she even said its a shame that we were in a mall because she could do a much better job it I could take some clothes off. my response was to say "I don't care... should I leave my boxers on" she laughed and gave me a light slap on the back.

so anyway moral of the story is... if your gonna go out doing some day game. don't forget the massage ladies..... I may not have got laid but I did get a free massage and damn!! I will be going back for a phone number .... not Thursday though. I'm gonna make her wait lol

oh and Yasmin text back! sweet!


Freak

Out of curiosity how long have you been studying game? It seems to me like you're kind of a natural! It took me a few months to even grow a sack to approach and a few times I even aborted mid-set when it was going good to leave on a high note and avoid rejection. For a noob (I'm assuming) you have implemented pickup principles quite well.

One thing I would recommend is try targeting many different demographics (age, culture, social group, "types" etc.) as dealing with many different kinds of sets and situations helps you think on your feet more and your game gets better as a result, at least in my experience. Plus the variety adds a bit of spice to it as well.

Keep it up man.

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I've been doing night game for about 3 weeks now and spent the week before reading the game - penetrating the secret society of pick up artists. I confess when I set my mind to something I do get absorbed by it. I've been reading a lot on the subject and generally studying it at every possible opportunity I've had. Regards being a natural, I'm not sure that I am but the concepts make sense to me so I find implementing them relatively easy. I've never had a problem talking to people/ women in the street and so the way I see it is if I'm approaching in such an indirect manor, why should I be scared of the out come. I'm asking for little more than directions as far as they know.... I think my problem is more about creating attraction and not ending up in the friend zone.

Saying all this. Day game is HARD. AA definitely made me freeze on the first day I went sarging but that only made me more determined to not let it hold me back when I went earlier today. Your point on aborting mid game describes how I acted with the majority of sets today and this is something that I want to tackle tomorrow. If I get blown out because I let the conversation get stale then the only way I'm gonna let it affect me is to learn from it.

To use an analogy to describe the way I see it. I'm a serious guitar head and a lot of things in life relate back to the principles of studying an instrument. You learn an idea like a new scale... you try to use it.... it sounds shit... you try it again... you fail.... you try it again.... so on so on until one day it clicks and you end up improvising some crazy ass solo that Hendrix would be proud of **side note, Hendrix wouldn't be proud of any of my solo's but you get the idea**. Now at this point, do you look back and feel upset and pissed that it took you two months to get it down. NO.. your over the moon because you just worked your ass off and earn't the success your now basking in (can and string theory I guess).

Thank-you for your words of advice and I will be sure to approach all different kinds of groups and set numbers. This may take a while though as day game still, and I fear will continue to scare the shit out of me for a while yet lol.

Freak

Hey man.. you're actually the first guy that I read a journal that I can identify with. Great work on the Mystery stuff.. you have to admit it justs pure genious. The material works unbelievabely well and it gives you a great structure of how an interaction can go before you switch to a natural style. I like you're cocky-funny personality you have with girls.. teasing them and all.. I do that a lot too.. it always works. Basically I just wanted to comment so I can follow up this thread.. since you're the only guy I found with the same style as me! Loved the way that HB9 approached you by trying to put pressure on you but you switched the roles around using the "What do you have more than your looks" line!! great job!! Great progress man in just 3 weeks.. keep going dude! Approach the most sets you can! Good luck in field and remember.. uncumfortable = growth.... being in comfort will not increase your pick up skills so much.. so when you are faced with a situation where you want to air on the side of no action... switch it around. Always air on ACTION.. Action = Uncomfortable = Growth

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thanks buddy, I was actually thinking something along the same lines when trawling through your journal the other day. The only problem I have now is that I'm starting to realise how expensive all this going out can be. I guess I've just gotta get good enough that the drinks get bought for me and failing that... get a job around a lot of HB's ahah.

Yeah man, some people might disagree but I think MM is AMAZING!! I've not read any way near as much but David DeAngelo stuff seems to compliment it perfectly as well; C & F is pure genius. Like you said man, if it suits your personality then go with it.... if not, find a different approach.

Couldn't agree more my friend. The only way to find the things that work for you is to try them all. Even if it does make uncomfortable situation and you screw it all up. Just means you've got tried and tested ideas to fall back on when you really want to succeed.

Freak

Hay what's up everyone,

So I've not done that much gaming for the last few days. I've been pretty busy with some work that's due do but one thing I've decided to practice is my day game openers. My goal is to get them as comfortable and natural as talking to my mum!. I'm doing at least three on every short walk I do, literally asking for directions and then dragging the conversation out, my favourite way of doing this at the moment is the old...

"Hay this is random as hell but I was just on the phone to my buddy and we were talking about who lied more... boys or girls. I'll be interested to hear a woman point of view"

I just try to carry the conversation on as long as it feels natural and then bailing when it doesn't any more. I've been making this time longer and longer and so I seem to be getting somewhere.

I've got two things to talk about.

The first is a girl I met in Starbucks the other day.... SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL, so hot that I wasn't sure I could build up the courage to open her, that is until I heard all of you screaming at me saying "DON'T BE A PUSSY, you've only got right now and then your never gonna see her again!" . She was sat at the other side of the cafe on her laptop, she had managed to get a sofa seat and I was sat doing some work on mine the other side on the hard wood chairs.

Perfect I thought, if someone near her moves then that's the perfect excuse to move closer. I only want a comfy seat.

So I luck out as the person on the sofa next to hers leaves. I pick up my stuff and casually stroll over there, sit down and start my work again.

After a few mins I get up and and start heading for the bathroom, I say over my shoulder. "Excuse me, could you keep and eye on my laptop for me for a sec" she smiles and says "yeah no problem"

When returning I catch her eye and say..

me - ah I'm impressed, I didn't know if I could trust you there... you look a bit like a bank robber. (she's wearing some sweat pants and a skimpy little top)

Her - **laughing** yeah that's the look I'm going for.

Me - **sitting back down and leaning back** you know what's amazing?

Her - what?

Me - I've been in this place for less than ten mins and I'm already on Facebook.

Her - aha god i wish i had the time to go on FB.

Me - so what you doing then?

Her - **picks up a driving theory book** got my test in a few hours and I already failed once.

Me - well if you drive anything like my sister does then I'm selling my motorbike and gonna stay at home from now on. **big smile**

Her - aha yeah, probably a good idea.

So I keep the conversation going for about five mins and she turns to face me, starts touching her hair and give off a bunch of other IOIs.

(one thing I've noticed is that a lot of girls my age act like they've never been hit on in public before... this is a massive advantage because they strait away think that your different from all the guys that walk up to them in clubs and try and grind them, confidence is key)

Then I freeze up, I run out of things to say. she starts to look at her laptop again and I look at mine. About thirty seconds later I suddenly remember something I read on here a few days ago. Its a way to start conversation by starting with using topics from when they were young and then work your way up.

For example..

So I bet you were a trouble maker when you were a kid, what was the worst thing you did?...

(follow that for as long as possible and start other conversation from it then when that dies out)

So were you the girl that broke loads of hearts in senior school?


But its been thirty seconds already... In hindsight I should have just said it but I was being an idiot. we sat there for another ten mins and then I went for a smoke outside... while I was out there she came out and said wish me luck whilst walking past. She stopped for a conversation but I wasn't really paying attention and didn't take the opportunity to carry it on. Oh well right, There are plenty more 10s hanging around in Guildford coffee shop..... maybe :S aha.

The second thing i want to mention is that I've been texting Yasmin. The HB 9 from the other night. I gave her a call earlier today and told her that she should come meet me for coffee tomorrow as I'm gonna be near where she lives. **another thing I've learnt is... don't ask, that's so beta... say "you know what, you should come for coffee with me" women read that as if just decided to give her a chance to win you over and that's much more attractive**

I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty nervous for tomorrow but hay what can go wrong. I'm just gonna be confident, act alpha, flirt with her, DHV and use appropriate kino. I'm exited and if i get enough signals i may go in for a k close. wish me luck!..

Finally to anyone that is reading this to decided weather or not to have a bash at becoming a pick up artist. I've been doing this for less than a month now and am already seeing real improvements on the way I handle women. I also feel a new found confidence because I've never had this much success. I've got ALOT to learn and its not gonna be a quick experience but I'm starting to actually feel like its a pleasure for a girl to be picked up by me. This shit will get you far. Not only with women but with your general approach to social situations in life. I find myself noticing things I've never noticed before, for example by looking at peoples body language its so obvious who the leader of any group is. Then all you have to do is gain the interest of the leader and eventually become more interesting than him. It was a fluke I admit but I managed to do this so well with a group of guys the other night that I noticed their body language change to make me the leader. Next thing I know is one guy asking me if we should all go to bar to get the next set of drinks. Just as a test I said no to see what would happen and the whole group even though none of us had anything left to drink stayed put for 5 mins until I turned around and said "to the bar" at which point they all followed. Now that doesn't mean I'm as good at being a leader as a general but it is something that I've never done before, I've never had the chance before. I've always been the guy saying. Hay lets go get a drink and been told to wait.

So grateful to have found this world right now and although I enjoy the upper hand... it should definitely be taught in school

Not gonna lie dude, you are easily the most inspiring person I've seen on these boards. Its nice to know that there is a way to totally change your social circumstances by learning what is basically a few psycology principles, especially where conventional wisdom tells you otherwise an then proving it wrong.

After a few colossal failures the past few years I've had enough and finally started seriously applying PUA principles (i had known of the community for a few years) and at this point I've moved just beyond mediocrity from dismal. It's getting to a point where it almost seems obvious, these social principles.

I have a few chode friends that could use PUA principles at least to go in the right direction but they wont consider it because they think its pathetic. Whats actually pathetic is never learning to do it the right way and go out week after week buying drinks and engaging supplicating behavior and waiting for the rare occasion that they get lucky, even when I have demonstrated how to do it right. Oh well, their loss.

I love reading underdog stories like this where an average dude begins a transformation into a PUA, it inspires me to keep pushing hard on my goals. I wish there were people like you around here to sarge with, just keep pushing your comfort zone and you'll be surprised at what you can do.

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Thanks man, that means a lot to me. I totally agree with you and the funny thing is that we've (at least I know I have) all heard a lot of these principles before but never realised how effective they actually are.

Yeah I can relate to the chode friends thing man. I haven't really advertised the fact that I'm gaming but I've had conversations about it before with my house mates and they also think its pathetic..... well a few days ago we were all chilling in the kitchen and one guy said "dude, seriously how come your doing so well with woman at the moment". a conversation started and it turns out that the whole house have been talking behind my back at how "lucky" I've been recently. so call me pathetic, call me lame, call me whatever you want but you said it man aha. the guy that brought it up even asked to go out for a few nights with me so I can introduce him to some of my girl mates. I might take him out and practice my winging with out him knowing just for shits and giggles.

Thanks man, I think one thing that is working to my advantage is the fact that I've grown up with two women. I'M NOT SAYIN' I UNDERSTAND THEM, lol. Also, I have really taken it to heart that there is no reason to be shy, un-confident or any of that shit. One thing I think really needs to be driven into people at the same stage in the game as me is YOUR PROBABLY NEVER GONNA SEE THIS PERSON AGAIN!!!, unless you do something right but if not don't take it to heart, learn from it. most girls will be pretty sweet to you anyway. Rome wasn't built in a day is an expression that pops to mind. so I have a long, long way to go before I can start calling myself a PUA. The more I game the more I realise how many things I need to change... but one day, maybe.

Freak

So I just got home from coffee with the HB9 from the other night. I’m starting to think she may actually be a HB9.5 possibly even an HB10, smart as well as sexy. It’s a shame I just got into the game because otherwise I would think about trying to make this into a relationship….. But screw that I’m on a journey of discovery bitches aha.

She lives about an hour and a half away from me so I asked her to meet in the middle at a place called Basingstoke. Waiting at the train station for her to rock up I started to get worried that I may have had beer goggles on the other night and she was in fact a horrific looking hobbit. I was stood there thinking of ways to get out of it if she was.

My plan was to greet her with “Hi, have you ever had your boobs weighed”. Then when she says “No” I was going to reach out, grab her boobs, giggle them about and scream… “waaaaayyy”. I figured that would probably work at getting her to turn around and go home. Luckily she was fine as hell so I saved myself a slap and probably a sexual harassment law suit, lol.

On the train to Basingstoke I was thinking of a plan to give off a good impression. I decided on a few topics to get the conversation started and then figured I would wing it after that. My main focus was to be relaxed, indifferent, alpha, interesting and interested in her. I told myself “this isn’t a date”, that I was just meeting an old mate for coffee and this seemed to keep my nerves at bay.

So I she walked strait up to me at the station and I greeted this pretty little thing with a warm smile and a…

Me - Hay, hows it going?

Her - Hay, yeah not to bad thanks.

Me - how was your drive over?

Her - ugh long… traffic everywhere (boring topic I know but I had a plan and for it to work I needed her to say something about the traffic, BOOM!)

Me - hah, that sucks man… you should get a motorbike like me.

Her - really you drive a bike, that’s so cool.

Me - yeah man its sick, dodge through traffic and shit. Its not always that easy though… the other day I was filtering through some cars waiting at a red light **this is a true story by the way, my take is honesty is the best policy because ever wise your stories wont be congruent** and some guy who was obviously having a bad day, didn’t like the idea of me getting in front of him and probably ha a small dick decided to open the door to try and knock me off. It was weird, I wasn’t going very fast but I swear all this happen almost as if it was in slow motion, it was like some spiderman shit haha. Anyway I managed to dodge it and carried on but what is wrong with the world… you know what I mean.

Her - OMG really.. Blah blah blah.

Conversation started easily from this point on. I’d shown I can tell a good story, I wasn’t nervous or afraid to look her in the eye. I just wanted to make it comfortable and it worked a treat.

Anyway we walked around trying to find a coffee shop for a while and ended up just getting take away ones because it was really busy. Found some seats in the mall we were in and chatted some more. I sat next to her rather than opposite her and lent back in my seat and gave off alpha signals, throwing in DVH stories where I could. I had planned to use the cube on her and a few other gambits but the conversation was flowing so naturally there was not point. It was hard to read her IOI’s but I did notice her body language was showing interest in me. She also held my eye contact well, smiled a lot and laughed at almost everything I said.

One thing I didn’t do was any kino, I’m not sure how it works in day game and didn’t want to be that creepy guy that doesn’t stop touching her. In hindsight I wish I had done at least a little bit but hay I’ll leave it for next time.

We sit for about an hour and finish our coffee’s then I suggest we have a wonder around.. Playfully telling her she can be my tour guide and if she’s good I might tip her. She agreed but as she stood up she looked at her phone and went.

Her - OH SHIT!!!!… I’m gonna be so late for work.

Me - haha sorry, the conversation was just to intense right.

Her - yeah exactly, do you mind if we head back to the car. I’ve gotta rush haha

Me - yeah no problem, I’ve got stuff to do today anyway.

So we walk back and just before we part ways I say.

Me - you should come down to **** (where I live when not at uni) some time soon and we can have a proper night out.

Her - yeah that sounds awesome.

We hug, she gets up on her tippy toes and squeezes me tightly.

Her - god your so tall.. Haha

Me - yeah it’s a pain in the ass, bang my head all the time.

I turn to walk away and say “nice meeting you mate, take it easy and have fun at work”

Her - **sarcastically** oh I will.. Haha.. Yeah nice meeting you. See you soon.

All in all I think it went pretty well. I don’t really feel like I gamed her as I knew she was attracted to me already. I concentrated on building comfort and a good rapport and I think I achieved this pretty well. Only thing I would do different is a bit more kino whilst playfully teasing her.

Let me know what you think guys, anything that you would have done differently. Comments on how interested you think she might be, how to get her to come down to see me and when to do it. Generally, what’s my next step.

Freak

So I feel like I’ve been rushing becoming a PUA a little bit. I read some of Valentyn’s Journal and he made a very good point about how he has read so much and learnt so much in such a short space of time that its all becoming a bit jumbled up in his head. I know Mystery’s method suits me well so I am going to stick with that but I’m going to start from scratch. My goal is to spend 2 weeks on each section then add in the next phase after that… unless I don’t have it down or I feel I don’t need to work at it for that long.

So starting today, I am working on A1... Although I can open in certain situations (like bars) I want to be able to open where ever I am, what ever I am doing. I am going to start by learning 5 canned lines for each situation I may find myself in on a regular basis… Bars, Supermarkets, coffee shops, Street, Uni, trains ect..

I will report back with the openers I decide to use or come up with.

Freak

Hay whats up everyone. I put this up in the mid game section of the forum but would be cool to hear advice from the guys that are following my journal as well.

So the story is I met this HB9.5 a few weeks ago. I met her in a bar and spent a good hour talking to her (Check out my journal to get the full story of what happened that night. [link]).

We've been texting ever since and I think its been going pretty well. We went for coffee a few days ago and, again, it was pretty cool (also in my journal). After seeing her I didn't contact her for a day so I didn't come across as needy or anything and then the day before yesterday I gave her a call whilst waiting for a train.

We only chatted for a few mins before my train came but it again seemed like it went pretty well on the phone. She sounded happy to here from me and didn't make any attempt to stop the conversation even though she was already late, sitting in her car waiting to leave to go see her friends. She was very talkative, jokey etc... In other words seemed really interested.

Anyway after getting off the phone I didn't contact her until yesterday afternoon saying simply sayin' in a text..... (we've been talking a lot about travelling and that how we both want to get out of England)

my text - "walkin' back from the gym in the rain..... urg i hate england!! haha. How was last night? x"

sooo.. I haven't heard back from her. Nothing. I haven't sent anything else and don't intend to because I don't want to come across as the guy that is overly eager. Through all forms of contact I'm pretty sure I've managed to do this quite well so far.

There could well be a legit reason for the lack of contact but could this be a test or something? Lack of interest?

Now don't get me wrong, this girl isn't my one itis or anything but she is a really cool and i would like to see her a few more times you know. see what happens.

One last thing is that I am back from university for a month so it is kind of unrealistic to see her that much. I did suggest in passing that she should come visit me over the Christmas period and we could go out and get pissed for a night. She sounded game and really enthusiastic about it.

So in conclusion, my problems are that she hasn't text me back and i'm not sure how to deal with this....... And, how should I go about keeping her interested for a month before I can realistically spend a decent amount of time with her again.

I was thinking that if I don't hear back from her then what I will do is leave it a few days and then give her a call as if nothing has happened. Chat with her and don't show any sign of caring that she didn't reply... giving of the vibe that my life is interesting enough that i hardly noticed. (and it is by the way, she's just fucking HOT aha).

Or should I now take the opportunity to lay my cards on the table and show my interest. It is obvious that I am interested all ready through things like going for coffee with her but I have been holding back a fair bit.

any suggestion are really welcome because I'm kinda new to all this stuff and want to do it properly. Thanks in advance to those guys that take the time to reply.

Freak