PUA's - I must thank you all - a couple of my buddies and I went out for the first time to put this stuff to test...and it works !! I opened up atleast 5 sets without a single shutout. So thank you all for showing us the way.

but...there in lies the problem. though we opened up plenty of sets there was still a little reluctance to number close. Any convo points to help the mid game...get the convo going towards #close...end game would be greatly appreciated.

Once again..thanks for the honest and sincere advice.

i dont know whether this is what youre looking for but ill put it out there anyway. what always works for me (and has never failed) is when im half way through initiating a new stream of conversation, i interupt myself, pass my phone over to the target and say 'hey put your number in - you should roll with us sometime'. what this does is it puts her on the spot, she has it in her hands - shes hardly going to deny you.

whats more there is an odd spark that is gained by making a connection in this world and having someones phone in your hands and the temptation to put your number in is quite strong. they will definitely go for it.

of course there is another method which is mysterys that a lot of pua's use on this forum and that is to say to a girl "id like to continue this conversation - what steps can we take to do so?" making her suggest the number close herself. its a very clever manipulative response. personally i never use this but it is famed to work.

try what i said - if it doesnt work ill be mightily suprised.

hope thats roundabouts what you were looking for. if not reply anyway and ill see what i can do to adjust my comments.

gonzocharlie

p.s dont forget that the only way your going to get that number is if you have rapport - which is trust plus comfort. it may take a while to build up a decent conversation, my advice is to demonstrate value after a quirky opener.

p.s.s you were looking for some conversation titbits. i would suggest the cube, i live by the cube - its an excellent conversation deriviate and a very cool demonstration of value. only thing is it takes some hefty revision to get it spot on. although if you want you can blag it if your lucky. you can actually make it up as you go along.

thanks man - good advice. I'll be sure to let you guys know how it turns out

In the least harshest way possible if they seem reluctent to number close then you have worked the set well enough. Keep at it tho. This shit takes time. No one becomes casinova over night

Smoothie

Well, getting a number isnt worth much, you still have to make sure she doesnt flake. And numberclosing should obviously never be the goal. If its going well, why timebridge?

The important thing about numberclosing is avoiding the flaking, which means you should be escalating kino well, and building enough comfort to avoid this damn flaking .

I may be way off, though, im in the learning process.

Well always act like you have a better place to go and better things to do, and when you brake out of the set, you could rip a piece of paper out and put your number on it than hand it to her and let her put her number down. Thanks lot David D for this.

What i like to do, and this was inspired by Style, is to give her a piece of paper and pen, and ask her to draw herself (assuming you played good game she will) than ask her to draw a phone in the picture and put her number on it (something silly like this, no one does it, its fun and shows your different).

Or you could do the email close, hand her a piece of paper say " I have to go you've keept me long enough , put your email on there well talk about (whatever your game was, female things are usually best, clothes, shoes, going shopping with her so on, or you could do the cube game and go half way, than ask number to resume it later [Time bridge] ). And as she puts her email on the piece of paper say, "Oh while your at it, put your number there too".

Hope it helps.

-Impact

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