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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:11 am 
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I've been seeing this girl as a friend for a little bit over 6 months. For the last 3 months, we've pretty much seen each other every week at least once. Last Monday, she called me and was pretty pissed at me for something I did that I thought was not that big of a deal. I manned up and offered my sincere apology for the perceived offense. I listened to her for about 30 minutes and let her vent her anger completely, even though I still think she really overreacted to the situation. When she finally calmed down, she was back to normal and eventually asked me out for sometime later this week and started suggesting possible date ideas. I ended up running late and I had to leave for an appointment, so I told her that I'd be interested, but that I'd have to call her back about it the next day. She seemed annoyed and I think I probably hung up on her as she replied something when I said good night.

The next day, I texted her at school (she's a grad student) and she told me she'd call me later when she could talk. I messaged her back saying I could call her when I would be walking my dogs later that night if it was simpler. She didn't call me back, so I called her at about 11pm (she goes to bed at 2-3 am usually). She had turned her cellphone off (or it was powered down), so I couldn't talk to her.

Now it's been 3 days and she still hasn't called yet. I know it's not that long, but we usually talks/text/chat on a near daily basis and it would be the first time she doesn't follow up when she says she'll call. Also, it would be the first week in about 3 months that we don't see each other.

I'm pretty sure she's pissed at me for being "rude" to her by hanging up and not seeming that interested in her dating plans. I'd be inclined to just let her cool down until she's ready to contact me again, but I'm kind of weary that she might take it as me not being interested.

Any thoughts?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:08 pm 
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Do something genuinely nice for her! Essentially a peace offering that allows you to express your continued "sorry" and for her to come back to you. Flowers are good, making her something is better. :)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:07 pm 
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I mean no disrespect, but I'm honestly confused as far as your answer go.

I know for a fact that she would literally come running at me if I did the kind of amazing peace offering gesture you're suggesting I do. In fact, I did it before and it worked completely. About 2 months ago, we ended up in the same kind of situation in which she went overboard over a minor thing. She sent me a very angry email saying she wanted nothing to do with me anymore and that I was an insensitive jerk... I know I'm far from a perfect human being, but I can honestly say that her reaction was WAY too severe for the situation at hand. I played it nice and brought her an expensive and very nice gift basket of chocolate-related things and a decently sized flower bouquet with flowers picked for their meaning (girls loves that by the way). Then I played a couple of carefully selected songs for her (i'm a singer in a band and it's kind of a panties dropper for her). It worked so well that I ended up spending the rest of the afternoon testing her bed frame for structural strength with her.

Don't get me wrong, I would gladly do this kind of thing again if it meant that the problem would go away. However, wouldn't it be encouraging this kind of overly dramatic emotional response to every single thing that happens? By what I read on this forum and other sources, if I don't make a stand at some point, am I not kinda shooting myself in the foot by allowing her to control everything? I made an honest mistake that was mostly consequences free for her and I sincerely apologized to her about it. I then proceeded to get her into a playful and teasing mood until I had to leave for a work related appointment. I don't think you should be able to get pissed for any and all reasons you want and then expect people to have to make a grandiose gesture to gain back the privilege of speaking to her.

By my very limited understanding of all this PUA stuff and the general principles of human interactions (mostly law of offer and demand), I diminish my value by always putting up with her bad behavior. I know I still have a lot to learn and there is always room for improvement, but I can honestly say that I'm a very positive thing for her. I make feel like she's the only girl in the world when she's with me and all her friends tell me how she never shuts up about me and how she sees me as the best thing that happened to her recently. We have some crazy good sex together, but we can also have a wicked good time with our clothes still on. Sure, we drop the ball every now and then (like everybody), but we usually just talk it out without even fighting. She's very needy though, to the point of being emotionally dependent, very jealous and having abandonment issues. I like her a lot, but I'm getting tired of always having to put up with her dramatizing over petty stuff.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:21 pm 
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Value is important at the beginning of the relationship primarily during courtship. I would venture to say after you two are together for longer this becomes less of a problem. You don't have to constantly demonstrate higher value anymore cause you got the girl.

I do see your point with doing nice things for her every single time she has an episode, and agree with you.

I'll leave you with some advice my ex-father in law gave me regarding getting in tiffs with your loved one..."You can be right, or you can be happy. But you can have both."


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:22 pm 
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The girl is yours, she got upset only because she cares so much about you.
Forget about your ego or value, just go see her and apologize, explain the situation and everything will be fine.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:00 pm 
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Well, it really looked like you aren`t interested in her.. So first you have to understand her, bcs girls make a big deal of things like showing interest for one guy and then they got rejected after they thought he was interested in her too :)
So what to do.. Well, she˙s pissed at you, she will maybe even cancel or reject your invitation.. But keep in mind she was reacting to you and that gives You value and it`s a sign she IS interested, so just simply ask her out, be nice to her, show her that you are interested, but don`t be an AFC! And remember, when it settles down, you go on a date with her, be "normal" again.. That means microcalibrate: IOI for IOI and IOD for IOD. Bcs a lot of guys make a mistake by being all AFC and pussy with her- you lose attraction and interest.
Be nice with her, show her that you are interested, ask her out LIVE not on the phone.. And then continue PUA way ;)

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