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Your problem is that you are trying to use the same model and thinking every girl will fit into this model of yours. Guess what ain't going to happen. This is why you are getting rejected or blown out so much. Your problem is that you are not gaming the girl based upon WHO she is. You are tying to game her from a model standpoint. Game the girl and adjust your game to HER, not to your model.

Personally I think you should drop MM and start working on your own "method/model". It would do you a world of good.




thank you and drop that cube stuff, less is more, seductive/sexy/sensual kino kino escalate!!!!!touchy touchy...

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thank you and drop that cube stuff, less is more, seductive/sexy/sensual kino kino escalate!!!!!touchy touchy...
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Personally I think you should drop MM and start working on your own "method/model". It would do you a world of good.
I happen to like the cube, it;s fun. Less is more agreed- and I do kino, which is one reason I do get laid some- but- fuck! Just because a natural doesn't use the cube, or, a MMpua doesn't use NLP ect ect, doesn't mean I should drop it all and throw it all out the window....

This mindset almost reminds me of religious fundamentalism....

Why is it everything I post somehow degenerates into "MM" vs. "Natural", "Vanilla" vs. "Chocolate", "Mac" vs. "PC"

Maybe I am just being dick, I don't know. I just don't like feeling like I have to convert to the pure way of PU and discard everything else.

Plus, I kind of bailed on my wing today and didn't sarge because I was pissed that I lost a friend of three years..not to mention every female friend I have is either in love with me now or acting fucking crazy...guys are always fucking posturing around me, even my friends....it's been a bad day. I know I am almost there, I can tell- I just- I just need to stop thinking and just do it.

This is just turning into a rant. I'll end it.


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thank you and drop that cube stuff, less is more, seductive/sexy/sensual kino kino escalate!!!!!touchy touchy...
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Personally I think you should drop MM and start working on your own "method/model". It would do you a world of good.
I happen to like the cube, it;s fun. Less is more agreed- and I do kino, which is one reason I do get laid some- but- fuck! Just because a natural doesn't use the cube, or, a MMpua doesn't use NLP ect ect, doesn't mean I should drop it all and throw it all out the window....

This mindset almost reminds me of religious fundamentalism....

Why is it everything I post somehow degenerates into "MM" vs. "Natural", "Vanilla" vs. "Chocolate", "Mac" vs. "PC"

Maybe I am just being dick, I don't know. I just don't like feeling like I have to convert to the pure way of PU and discard everything else.

Plus, I kind of bailed on my wing today and didn't sarge because I was pissed that I lost a friend of three years..not to mention every female friend I have is either in love with me now or acting fucking crazy...guys are always fucking posturing around me, even my friends....it's been a bad day. I know I am almost there, I can tell- I just- I just need to stop thinking and just do it.

This is just turning into a rant. I'll end it.


no dude! nobody says to discard everything else, but the cube ain't working, jurupa is right on the money.... It is time for the m2 method... Everything you mention happens to me, that means you are getting good... Guys jealous, or copy your behavior, girls go psycho or in love.. That means you are doing good...

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Direct Game Exposed

The term “direct game” gets thrown around a lot here. But what exactly does it mean to “just go direct?”

Direct game is a very misunderstood concept here in our little community and its time for that to change. Its unfortunate but people seem to treat direct game (and “going direct”) to be some sort of tactic to use on women. This is horribly false.

Another good example of how direct game is misunderstood is how people have canned direct openers. Once upon a time I used to guilty of this as well. I used to approach women and be authentic and tell them exactly what I felt about them in that moment. It was authentic and real, never planned. 100% authentic feelings. Then, in order to streamline the opening process I came up with a canned “direct” opener. When I did that, opening wasn’t quite the success it used to be, that is, until I reverted back to being pure authentic. And thats what direct game truly is…

Being Authentic and 100% genuine in your intent, thoughts, and actions.

You can be doing direct game even if you open with a situational opener. Opening asking a chick for an opinion can be direct too so long as you actually want her opinion about something. (example: I was watching a debate on CNN at a coffee shop and I looked over and asked a chick which side of the argument she liked best)

Direct game isn’t some tactic you use, direct game is about expressing your true desire and being shameless about it. Its about being authentic and real with both yourself and the woman.

I’ll say it again…

Being direct is about expressing your true desires and being shameless about it.

Thats direct game. Its not a line, its not a tactic. Hope that helps to clear up some of the confusion and misconceptions.

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no dude! nobody says to discard everything else, but the cube ain't working, jurupa is right on the money.... It is time for the m2 method... Everything you mention happens to me, that means you are getting good... Guys jealous, or copy your behavior, girls go psycho or in love.. That means you are doing good...
Good point- and I am glad to see I am not alone- the fucked up thing is I have been friends with some of these people for years and I have NEVER seen them act like this. I thought maybe I'd internalize too much game or something. I walk down the street and guys hold their girlfriends closer, female friends BF are getting jealous despite me never gaming them. Male friends have started posturing constantly. Female friends either end up in love with me (one told me tonight, kind of sucks she used to be my BF, and I'd never consider her like that), or they go way the fuck off the deep end for no fucking reason.....it can get kind of lonely but- I can sense I am on the threshold and if I push through, I'll be on the other side and no longer be an AFC or RAFC....but a fucking bonafide PUA.

The direct game post- I like it. I am going to integrate it. I already do some semi-direct, maybe I'll step it up- along with my game.

Tomorrow I have off work- I am going for 20 approaches.


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Is it just me, or does this whole, "When I first saw you, something seperated you from the crowd" chat seem gay? This is some ish I'd say once in the relationship and the girl was wondering what caught my eye.

Imo, instead of saying what I quoted... I would do it in a more slick manner. The concept is that the girl has something going on that is grabbing attention and/or seperating her from the crowd.

I would first try to notice something on the HB that's an attention getter/seperating her from the crowd, and throw some slick seasoning on that bitch!

Lets say this chick is wearing a v-neck and she has a nice pair of breasts...

Me: Hey... are you Arab?
Her: No
Me: Oh, because I noticed you dressed very... *looks directly at her breasts* concealed. You don't get hot wearing that?

And obviously, the last sentence is subliminally saying she's hot.

etc etc etc


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I happen to like the cube, it;s fun. Less is more agreed- and I do kino, which is one reason I do get laid some- but- fuck! Just because a natural doesn't use the cube, or, a MMpua doesn't use NLP ect ect, doesn't mean I should drop it all and throw it all out the window....
Its my opinion that you should drop the cube game, as I see no point in it really. I seen way to many guys here rely too much on such "tools" to get girls and repeatedly fail time and time again, because they are not gaming the girl but trying to make the girl fit their method. I don't claim to be a natural tho some most probably will, hell I don't even consider myself a PUA as all I am here for is to learn how to pick up girls better.
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Why is it everything I post somehow degenerates into "MM" vs. "Natural", "Vanilla" vs. "Chocolate", "Mac" vs. "PC"
Maybe that is because you rely on some method way to much? From reading your posts just in this thread alone shows me how much you use the MM as a crutch and not as tool. As I said more than once you are trying to make the girl fit the method and not the other way around. It has nothing to do with this verses that. If you nothing I said nothing about using a different method from another PUA, I am telling you to drop MM as you are relying on it too much and its doing you more harm than good.

I think the sooner you realize that you need to game the girl as a PERSON, and adjust your game to them the better off you are.


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From reading your posts just in this thread alone shows me how much you use the MM as a crutch and not as tool. As I said more than once you are trying to make the girl fit the method and not the other way around.
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I think the sooner you realize that you need to game the girl as a PERSON, and adjust your game to them the better off you are.
You may be right- either way I am doing twenty approaches today- we'll see how it works out. It'll be in my FR.


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From reading your posts just in this thread alone shows me how much you use the MM as a crutch and not as tool. As I said more than once you are trying to make the girl fit the method and not the other way around.
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I think the sooner you realize that you need to game the girl as a PERSON, and adjust your game to them the better off you are.
You may be right- either way I am doing twenty approaches today- we'll see how it works out. It'll be in my FR.
:D

I look for it.


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From reading your posts just in this thread alone shows me how much you use the MM as a crutch and not as tool. As I said more than once you are trying to make the girl fit the method and not the other way around.
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I think the sooner you realize that you need to game the girl as a PERSON, and adjust your game to them the better off you are.
You may be right- either way I am doing twenty approaches today- we'll see how it works out. It'll be in my FR.
:D

I look for it.
Working on it now- it'll be a good one too!


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I agree with Jarupa. When I was new(meaning a week after I rad the game) I started with MM which worked well since I wasn't used to get that much interest at all. But when you develop natural game and don't rely on routines that much you learn to adapt more quickly to a certain situation and makes you more flexible with different type of girls


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I agree with Jarupa. When I was new(meaning a week after I rad the game) I started with MM which worked well since I wasn't used to get that much interest at all. But when you develop natural game and don't rely on routines that much you learn to adapt more quickly to a certain situation and makes you more flexible with different type of girls
I finally figured it out yesterday with the last approach of the day (with all of your help)- I shut off- I'd internalized enough game I didn't really need the training wheels any more. It's in my FR- 2-vt99907.html?start=15 -it's the last girl in the last entry. Now if I can do it consistently I'll be a MPUA.


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I agree with Jarupa. When I was new(meaning a week after I rad the game) I started with MM which worked well since I wasn't used to get that much interest at all. But when you develop natural game and don't rely on routines that much you learn to adapt more quickly to a certain situation and makes you more flexible with different type of girls
I finally figured it out yesterday with the last approach of the day (with all of your help)- I shut off- I'd internalized enough game I didn't really need the training wheels any more. It's in my FR- 2-vt99907.html?start=15 -it's the last girl in the last entry. Now if I can do it consistently I'll be a MPUA.
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