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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:42 pm 
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Go on tonight.

If she still doesn't get into the sack with you.

Do what I suggested.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:02 am 
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turns out she has a really big background of drug abuse, mental illness, glad i didn't fuck her now. Moving on, she killed every last bit of attraction I had for her. Thanks for all your tips


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:24 am 
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i am an afc, so take this advice with a grain of salt. sounds like she wants to seduce you into doing what you don't what you don't want to do (have raw sex with her) and i would not give in to that if thats not what you want. what about being aggressive and take charge in a different way - decide what you want from her and pursue that. do you want to just hug her for a while because you enjoy hugs? go for it. this whole "feeling apologetic for displeasing her because you dont want to do something she wishes you wanted to do" isnt gonna turn her on. but deciding what you want and standing your ground and telling that NO means NO and that you have a right to want what you want (and she can accept or reject you, thats fine) might be a different way of thinking about this.


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I refused to f-close but she was still giving me a shit load of IOI's, kino etc.

Thing is she got all emotional on me after that on the phone, giving me shit-tests like "Are you a passionate person"? Blah Blah, and during a moment of weakness, after she asked me a question. Something along the lines of "how I feel about her", I fucked up really bad and told her I thought about her all day this one day.

She said she did too but I still know that was a big mistake to show my cards like that. The NEXT day I got friend-zoned because of that I believe. She started as saying "friends first, then said lets put no label on it". Then as time passed she continued to test how I feel about her. I continued to fuck up, she baited me into agreeing we're "Dating" then she flipped it around and said "Go Slow"

She still kept continuing with sexual e-mails, touching me a lot, and saying she's attracted and "drawn to me". Its all a mindfuck to me really.
I know she has a shit-ton of orbiters, and shes very openly bi-sexual.

Last time I saw her I just decided fuck it, and went for the make-out but got rejected (I also hesitated badly) , she still hugged me but turned away when I went for a kiss. She wouldn't let go of me when I stopped though, simultaneously saying something to herself along the lines of "I'm only friends with you but I can't let go of you"....so ehhh I am such a fucking AFC.

I like the challenge but its really killed my attraction for her.

I think I am beyond the point of return, I can't gain the composure I had when I initially met her. Really what could I do from this point? Nothing that I can think of, besides freezing her out for a extremely long time.


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