OK scored a pivot last week and we've started to go sarging. Now she says she's not interested in me sexually but she gives me IOI's and is usually more interested in talking to me than other guys.

I was thinking screwing the pivot would be an almost ideal situation, if I don't pick up other girls I can just fuck my pivot instead.

Now obviously this would be a delicate situation, but does anyone know how it can be done?

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I wouldn't recommend this at all. If you want a girl to be your friend to fuck, get a fuck buddy.

Your pivot is there to serve as a tool to help you pick up other chicks.

What happens if you fuck her and one of you starts developing deeper interest? What if she starts getting jealous at you for fucking other chicks on the side?

Your pivot is your pivot. A friend.

Your fuck buddy is your fuck buddy. Someone to bang when you feel like it.

I wouldn't mix those two in the same martini, if you catch my drift.

She might be more interested in talking to you than other guys because she's more comfortable with you.

Panda>>> Yea I know it's dangerous territory that's why I made the post, to try and figure out a way to have my cake and eat it too. And it wouldn't just be convenient for the sex, but for logistics too. In a perfect world we'd be going out sarging and then if we don't meet anyone go back to her place for totally meaningless sex.

Tidy>>> I haven't made any moves on this chick mainly because I wanted her as a pivot, but I reckon if I did she'd respond positively, been getting lots of IOI's.


Anyone got a magic bullet for making a girl both a fuck-buddy AND a pivot??? Or doesn't one exist?

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There's no magic bullet for anything.

What you could do is to simply make your move on her as you intended to, but then let her know clearly what your intentions are. Let her know that if she can't handle this, she shouldn't be a part of it.

If both of you know exactly what to expect of each other and both of you agree to the 'terms of service' - then it's definitely going to work.

Hmm OK....

So maybe I K-close, give her this little speech, and then if she's cool with it then F-close.

I might consider that.

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Someone posted a thread about how to create a friends with benefits situation that I commented on yesterday. I am very busy SPAM, so if you look in my history of posts or know of the thread I speak of I think that is the answer you seek.

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the answer is so obvious, i'm surprised no one has spotted it yet.

make her your pivot to pick up girls ... for threesomes.

cake, eat it too.

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Think she's gonna regain her senses in the little speech part.

I agree with Panda there, definition of roles in very important and once defined, they should be maintained as such.

If a "Pivot" and "Fuck Buddy" started becoming the same things, they wouldn't be named differently.

Though, Mack's advice is hilarious but true, considering you have found yourself that awesome a woman.

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so wait, if he fucks her them immediately she no longer will be his pivot??? i dont get this logic. ofc he should sleep with her if he's interested. she can still be his fuck buddy/fwb/pivot/whatever.

and after that, as already mentioned itt, threesomes ftw

Hahahahahhahahaha THREESOMES so fucking obvious!!!

We're going out sarging again tomorrow. I might do a bit of prodding in that area

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